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themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

Android: revanced manager

Pc: firefox+ublock+dearrow+sponsorblock

AndroidTv: smartTubeNext

I haven’t seen an ad in years

Noxious ,

There are better alternatives for Android like NewPipe, Tubular and LibreTube

For PC, you can use FreeTube

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I wouldn’t call them ‘better’ alternatives. They’re easier to install for sure. Personally, I’ve used revanced, newpipe, and libretube and love them all. I stuck with newpipe, since that’s what my family uses now, and it’s easier to troubleshoot when I have it too. And revanced takes some steps, more than just “install this package, done”.

Noxious ,

I'd say they are objectively better, because are independent, free & open source apps, instead of relying on patching Google's proprietary software.

red ,

They aren’t better IF you enjoy most of YouTubes features. Usability is key, and messing around with Revanced manager twice a year has been worth it easily.

Being OS doesn’t suddenly make worse UX better.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I appreciate your viewpoint, as it’s a part of what makes the software development community so great. I don’t necessarily agree with it, personally, since they all rely on proprietary backend (YouTube), but I truly do appreciate it.

Noxious ,

I just don't want any proprietary software on my devices (for many reasons, most importantly privacy and user freedom). I can use a VPN to privately connect to the YouTube backend, but things get much harder when the proprietary spyware is actually on my device.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I don’t disagree with this point. Calling them objectively better however, is not covering the whole story imo. They are objectively better if your goal is to deproprietarize (not a real word) as much as possible. But if your goal is to just block ads as seamlessly as possible while still keeping all other features in YouTube, then those FOSS apps drop to subjectively better.

grue ,

Which one of those do I pick if I actually want to be logged in and have Youtube keep track of my watch history, automatically synchronized between devices?

Noxious ,

If you want to use YouTube for that, it seems like ReVanced is your only option. But you can also create an account on a Piped instance, and have your playlists synced. LibreTube is the only app that supports this.

nudnyekscentryk ,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

What’s the difference between smart tube and smatttubenext?

whyNotSquirrel ,
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

it’s the one after

JDPoZ ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

iOS DID have Yattee, but it’s basically unusable at this point unless I’m doing something terribly wrong on my end. Every time I try to use it, even when signed in, I get errors no matter which back end I use.

Snapz ,

They have actually started serving ads with a skip button… That only skips to the next ad.

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

I experienced this crazy onslaught of advertising to the point of reducing how much I watched YouTube. I was pretty upset and not at all inclined to pay, especially since YouTube was even putting ads on my own videos without me seeing a single cent, because my channel is too small.

Then my partner bought me a few months of a Premium Subscription as a Christmas gift.

It was pointed out to me that I watched more YouTube than any other streaming service which I was paying for.

Combined with background music on mobile, it’s changed my life.

I’m still unimpressed with the business model, but the alternative is so far worse.

Find me a self publishing video platform with the reach of YouTube that doesn’t require self hosting and I’ll happily move my content there.

Strider , (edited )

To me this is way too much like extortion. The more they do this the less I want to give them money.

Also I need to be logged on everywhere, which I don’t want to (have to), mostly for privacy and data harvesting reasons.

It also does not help that when I want to see something and jump around in a video, I get the same ad 30 times. No exaggeration.

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

It absolutely is.

It’s possibly also how they’ll get broken up by the DoJ.

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

It was pointed out to me that I watched more YouTube than any other streaming service which I was paying for.

Yeah, I think that YouTube provides a lot of value.

My problem is that I don’t really want Google – a company who makes a lot of their money via profiling and data-mining – logging and data-mining everything I watch.

YouTube Premium lets someone avoid ads. But as best I can tell, it’s not buying any kind of no-log service – in fact, it’s just linking your activity to your financial information, which makes logging and profiling easier. That’s not the service that I want to buy from Google.

What I’d be willing to get from Google is a “no log” service.

I pay for Kagi, for search engine service. I pay for commercial email service. I’m fine with giving money to online service providers and entrusting them with (some) of my data…but I want part of that service to be that they aren’t logging what I do and data-mining my data.

I don’t like the model of “we don’t charge up front but we make our money by extracting all the information about you that we can”. I’m fine with that existing, because some people are more comfortable with that. But it isn’t what I want for myself.

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

I think that every single provider tracks your activity and the vast majority of them use it to optimise their service income from you, either by giving you better engagement, ie. making you use the service more - endless searching for content for example, or by selling the captured tracking data to the highest bidder.

cobysev ,

Find me a self publishing video platform with the reach of YouTube that doesn’t require self hosting and I’ll happily move my content there.

Nebula is the next best thing to YouTube, but not enough content creators have moved their stuff there, so it’s easy to run out of interesting videos to watch after a while. Some of the bigger folks I follow share their content on both platforms, and the incentive to watch on Nebula instead of YouTube is that content creators have more freedom with their videos on Nebula. They can post bonus/extra footage that would be automatically flagged and blocked by YouTube normally. Don’t need to dance around the censors on Nebula.

Nebula is subscription-based, so they don’t show ads anywhere on their site. But if you don’t want to pay for another subscription service, you can also do a one-time payment to have lifetime access to their site. It’s $300, which is the cost of just over 4 years of their subscription service ($6/mo). Considering I’ve had an account for over 3 years now, it’s almost paid for itself.

Paradachshund ,

No offense to nebula (I’m rooting for them) but unless you exclusively watch news and educational content it basically has nothing to offer. I tried it for a year and I ended up barely using it because I don’t watch that type of content.

SendMePhotos ,

The thing is… All the premium features USED TO BE FREE AND AVAILABLE UNTIL THEY LOCKED THEM BEHIND A PAY WALL.

I used to be able to have YouTube playing in the background, reduced ads, etc. All of the features.

Now, I still do because I use Firefox + ublock on mobile. Yeah, I can play this shit with my screen off (Firefox + unlock + desktop mode + turn screen off).

Fuck 'em.

toynbee ,

Not only is this true and annoying, but other things about the ads are getting worse, too.

I recently had to factory reset my TV and, after the first time I opened the YouTube app, immediately had to find the “don’t play video preview” option. It worked, except for the huge banner ad at the top of the list of videos, which still saw fit to play with deafening sound when I didn’t immediately change the video selection. I can’t find a setting to disable this.

Also, I’ve noticed the “fewer ads for this long video” message popping up during videos longer than thirty minutes (and now it seems like longer than twenty minutes). Not only is that message condescending like they’re doing me a favor, but I’m pretty sure it’s not true, at least not by much; and the ads are definitely longer and mostly unskippable.

Like someone else says in this thread, it feels like extortion.

Retiring , (edited )
@Retiring@lemmy.ml avatar

Try this, if your TV can run it: https://smarttubeapp.github.io/No ads, and there is even sponsor block included, so you don’t have to hear the annoying „segue to our sponsor“ and „please like and subscribe“ nonsense.

chaosCruiser ,
@chaosCruiser@futurology.today avatar

I’m going to show this real quick and then we’re going to move on, so pause the video if you want to take a closer look…

grue ,

Phone: rings
Me: “better pause Youtube so that I can answer without noise in the background”
Youtube: plays ad with even louder audio
Me: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3670e6a2-e588-4886-bf44-ed4d0ce8cb7e.png

parpol ,

I used to watch on ps4, but couldn’t stand the ads anymore so I bought a new PC and repurposed my old PC into a Linux TV box. Now I watch freetube on my TV with no ads and no tracking.

dustyData ,

I also noticed that they started showing ads upon opening YouTube on Android TV.

Google sucks so bad.

IsThisAnAI ,

I don’t get ads. I pay 🤷‍♂️.

Snapz ,

This is specifically about TV apps.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Imagine watching YouTube. Your kid, spouse, grandparent, whatever falls and gets badly hurt. You pause the video (out of habit, instead of shutting off the TV) to tend to them. You toss the remote as you rush off the couch, the remote is lost. Instead of silence so you can hear whether they’re breathing and be able to hear and talk to the emergency services dispatcher, you hear an unskippable ad. They parish, because the dispatcher couldn’t hear you and get the ambulance truck to your door in time.

Imagine watching YouTube. You’re alone in your house. You hear something at the window behind you. You pause the video, since it’s probably nothing, to listen more intently. Instead of silence to allow you hear the burglar, you hear an ad for something you would never buy, as the burglar breaks into your house and attacks you for that sweet, sweet PS5. You parish, because you couldn’t react in time.

Edge cases? Maybe. Possible? Yes. Will YouTube/google be charged with accessory to murder? I highly doubt that.

Pause ads are a very bad, and very dangerous, idea.

notjustlurking ,

Agreed, but the word you want is perish, as parish relates to a land/area.

HubertManne ,

same with amazon. its the latest newness. I really miss rabbit ears.

Cort ,

I have rabbit ears hooked into my Plex server so I can record the few shows left on linear broadcast tv

ItsComplicated ,

I am not a content creator and do not upload anything. My use would just be as a consumer.

As a consumer, I will not use YT simply because of ads and the way they have made removing ads without a premium subscription so ridiculously difficult and time consuming.

Imo, having ads thrown in your face when you pause it, is reason enough not to use again.

WreckingBANG ,
@WreckingBANG@lemmy.ml avatar

Thats why i have a dumb tv with a little linux pc attached to it, so i can open piped and jellyfin in my librewolf browser.

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