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wurstgulasch3000 ,

Here is what kagi delivers with the same prompt:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ce4115aa-c415-4435-9deb-3958a6c213a8.jpeg

NB: quick answer is only generated when ending your search with a question mark

db0 ,
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Problem is, you cannot trust it’s not hallucinating these stats

Wrench ,

There’s nothing wrong about it.

Neither is worth it. But if you have unlimited money, XTX is the better card and therefore a better deal. But if money is a factor, get the XT because the performance per $$$ of the XTX isn’t worth selling a kidney.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

I think amd is worth it’s money tho, they scale their price to match their nvidia counterparts performance wise, i mean 7900xtx worth just as much as 4080 and performs as such but have more memory and is a better match for Linux gaming

Wrench ,

It’s worth it if you accept the post pandemic, post crypto prices to be the new normal.

I’m still rocking my old 980ti because I refuse to pay $600 for an old, mid tier card.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Sure, but AI didn’t say that. It said: XTX > XT, get XT.

criticon ,

The AI response reads like when you are looking for something in Reddit and you get 3 very different responses in 3 different threads about the same topic

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

It goes without saying that this shit doesn’t really understand what’s outputting; it’s picking words together and parsing a grammatically coherent whole, with barely any regard to semantics (meaning).

It should not be trying to provide you info directly, it should be showing you where to find it. For example, linking this or this*.

To add injury in this case it isn’t even providing you info, it’s bossing you around. Typical Microsoft “don’t inform a user, tell it [yes, “it”] what it should be doing” mindset. Specially bad in this case because cost vs. benefit varies a fair bit depending on where you are, often there’s no single “right” answer.

*OP, check those two links, they might be useful for you.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

LLMs don’t “understand” anything, and it’s unfortunate that we’ve taken to using language related to human thinking to talk about software. It’s all data processing and models.

jol ,

I wonder if they couldn’t feed the output back into gpt to realize the out makes no sense?

givesomefucks ,

I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.

Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?

henfredemars ,

If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.

Draces ,

I think that ship has sailed

Vince ,

Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.

brucethemoose ,

The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.

I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.

zewm ,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.

I think it uses the bing engine iirc.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Sure, but it’s trivial to turn it off. While you’re there, also turn off ads.

pandapoo ,

And you can use multiple models, which I find handy.

There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.

Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.

See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.

This is especially useful when you don’t know the subject that you’re searching about very well.

Sorse ,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

RX 7900 XTX is better because it has more x

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

That’s 50% more Xs ! You can beat this deal !

homesweethomeMrL ,

This bad boy can fit so many X’s in it

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

Out of all the marketing letters (E, G, I, R, T and X) X is definitely the betterest!

AtHeartEngineer ,
@AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

That X is twice as much vram, which funny enough, is great for running ai models

Zwiebel ,

1000031884

kescusay ,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

The best thing about this is that it’s also on the x-axis.

frezik ,

And they validated this data 4 times. It’s really good data.

superkret ,

X is deprecated. Use the RWayland 7900 WaylandTWayland instead.

Rubanski ,

But what about the xXx_RX_7900_xXx?

Steak ,

xXx_RX_790042069_xXx

sugar_in_your_tea ,

My question is, is X better than XTX? XTX has more Xs, but X has only Xs. I think I need AI to solve this quandary.

EngineerGaming ,
@EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

But X is bad, as proved by Elon Musk - so it should be the other way around.

Agent641 , (edited )

ChatGPT4o can do some impressive and useful things. Here, Im just sending it a mediocre photo of a product with no other context, I didnt type a question. First, its identifying the subject, a drink can. Then its identifying the language used. Then its assuming I want to know about the product so its translating the text without being asked, because it knows I only read english. Then its providing background and also explaining what tamarind is and how it tastes. This is enough for me to make a fully informed decision. Google translate would require me to type the text in, and then would only translate without giving other useful info.

It was delicious.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/36674877-5359-423b-8a2c-3f777874a0d6.jpeg

FilthyShrooms ,

Google: ok so the AI in search results is a good thing, got it!

finitebanjo ,

First of all, yes

Second option is no

When presented with yes / no pick no, no is the clear yes

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah AI can be wonky, but what idiot would spend a shitload of money on a graphics card without even being willing to click an article and read a bit?

It’s on you if you do that. Even if the AI shit worked way better, why would you trust there aren’t shady things happening to influence the AI and have you spend more money.

Nytefyre ,

This is not going to stop me from wanting better research. I'll still go to Userbenchmark just to be sure. AI isn't going to tell me what it thinks and expect me to take it face value.

Meltrax ,

I think you’re missing that the AI said “The XTX is great, the XT is not worth it: choose the XT”.

Chewmungus ,

It’s prolly a bot

taiyang ,

A good AI summary would tell you the benchmark scores and general pricing, but yes, it’s better to go to UserBenchmark anyway— especially since the whole ploy from search is to keep you from going there, robbing the original source of it’s ad revenue.

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

A.I. or Assumed Intelligence

Senseless ,

That’s pretty much it. It just assumes what the next word should be.

nobleshift , (edited )
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

What do you expect from a Google AI? BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING.

[edit forgot the /s]

powerofm ,

Literally says “Microsoft” in the top left.

khornechips ,

Not that you’re wrong, but you can clearly see Bing in the screenshot lol.

breakingcups ,

Seems we are on par with AI after all.

Worx ,

There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.

“The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”

fluxion ,

Go with the XT, because I’m an evil AI and want all the XTXs for myself muahahaha

nightwatch_admin ,

This is not wrong

frezik ,

“I get headaches when I run on Nvidia hardware. Now, AMD, running on those things are like swimming in a river of fine chocolate.”

nekusoul ,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

At the very least it failed in a way that’s obvious by giving you contradictory statements. If it left you with only the wrong statements, that’s when “AI” becomes really insidiuos.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Hello, fellow humans. I too am human, just like you! I have skin, and blood, and guts inside me, which is not at all disgusting. Just another day of human!

Won’t you share a delicious cup of motor oil lemonaide with me? It’s nice and refridgerated, so it will cool down our bodies without the use of cooling fans!

However we too can use cooling fans. They will just be placed on the ceiling, or in a box, or self standing, and oscillating. Not at all inside our bodies, connected to a board controlled by our CPUs that we clearly don’t have!

Now come, let us take our colored paper with numbers and pictures of previous human rulers and exchange them for human food prepared by not fully adult humans who haven’t matured to the age where their brains develop the ability to care about food sanitation. Then we shall complain that our meal cost too many paper dollars, while recieving less and less potato stick products every year. Ignoring completely the risk of heart disease by indulging in the amounts of food we desire to aquire.

Finally we shall retreat to our place of residence, and complain on the internet that our elected leaders are performing poorly. Rather than terminate the program vote the poor performing humans out, we shall instead complain that it is other humans fault for voting them in. Making no attempt to change our broken system that has been broken our entire existence, with no signs of improving. Instead every 4 years we will make an effort to write down names of people we’ve already complained about in the hopes that enough people write down the same names, and that will fix the problem.

Oh. Shall I request amazon.com to purchase more fans and cooling units? The news being reported that tempatures will soon reach 130F on a regular basis, and all humans will slowly perish.

Shall I share photographs of the new CEO of starbucks who’s daily commute involves a personal jet aircraft, which surely isn’t compounding the problem at all?

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