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bender223 ,

These people are supposedly the smart people in our society. The leaders of industry, but they whine and complain when they are told not to cheat or break the law.

If y’all are so smart, then figure out a different way of creating an A.I. Maybe the large language model, or whatever, isn’t the approach you should use. 🤦‍♂️

ricecake ,

As written the headline is pretty bad, but it seems their argument is that they should be able to train from publicly available copywritten information, like blog posts and social media, and not from private copywritten information like movies or books.

You can certainly argue that “downloading public copywritten information for the purposes of model training” should be treated differently from “downloading public copywritten information for the intended use of the copyright holder”, but it feels disingenuous to put this comment itself, to which someone has a copyright, into the same category as something not shared publicly like a paid article or a book.

Personally, I think it’s a lot like search engines. If you make something public someone can analyze it, link to it, or derivative actions, but they can’t copy it and share the copy with others.

circuitfarmer ,
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This is the main issue with AI. It is the issue with AI that should have been handled and ultimately regulated before any AI tool got to its current state. This is also a reason why we really cannot remove the A from STEAM.

masterspace ,

No, this is a broader issue with copyright being a fundamentally stupid system, because it’s based on creating artificial scarcity where there is no need for it.

Pirates, Search Engines, the fragmentation of streaming services, and now AI, are all just technologies that expose how dumb a system it is.

circuitfarmer ,
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I dont disagree with that about copyright law. But to think that AI is going to break you out of it is a pipe dream.

Copyright revision will not happen from people stealing content. It requires deep discussion and governments that actually listen. AI stealing content will ultimately enhance copyright rules down the road.

masterspace ,

AI scraping content, the same way that search engines do, will have no impact on the copyright system.

circuitfarmer , (edited )
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Totally agree. I did not make the claim that copyright law will be affected.

Rentlar ,

I can’t have a chill movie night at home with friends without being able to pirate movies for free.

MoogleMaestro ,

If he wins this, I guess everyone should just make their Jellyfin servers public.

Because if rich tech bros get to opt out of our copyright system, I don’t see why the hell normal people have to abide by it.

TheImpressiveX ,
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RangerJosie ,

Then go out of business.

Literally, “fuck you go die” situation.

Bishma ,
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We can’t make money paying for “AI”, going to theaters, or paying for streaming services.

So I guess everybody gets a piracy!

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gedaliyah ,
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mozz , (edited )
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Honestly this meme is way understating the sinisterness

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afiresword ,

For years Microsoft and Google were happy to acquiesce to copyright claims from the music and movie industry. Now all of a sudden when it benefits them to break those same laws, they immediately did. Now those industries who served small creators copyright claims and up against someone with a bigger legal budget.

It’s more evident then ever how broken our copyright system is. I’m hoping this blows up in both parties faces and we finally get some reform but I’m not holding my breath.

This is an assumption but I bet all the data feed into Content ID on YouTube was used to train Bard/Gemini…

HipsterTenZero ,
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It’s impossible for me to make money without robbing a bank, please let me do that parliament it would be so funny

ulkesh ,
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Aww poor shit company and their poor money problems.

RageAgainstTheRich ,

And my money redistribution company can not get money to redistribute without robbing banks. Please put up your hands. 🔫🥷

recursive_recursion ,
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well fuck you Sam Altman

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