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Hyundai and Kia car thefts fall sharply after software upgrade, study finds

A social media trend, dubbed the “Kia Challenge,” has appeared to compound the automakers’ problems in recent years, with people posting videos showing how to steal Hyundai and Kia cars. At its height, the Kia Challenge was linked to at least 14 reported crashes and eight fatalities, according to figures from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

About 9 million vehicles have been impacted by the rash of thefts, including Hyundai Elantras and Sonatas as well as Kia Fortes and Souls. Hyundai and Kia earlier this year agreed to pay $200 million to settle a class-action lawsuit filed by drivers who had their vehicles stolen.

Technology is helping foil car thieves making life miserable for owners of Hyundai and Kia vehicles.

Hyundai and Kia upgraded their cars’ anti-theft tech in early 2023. Vehicles equipped with the enhanced software will only start if the owner’s key, or an identical duplicate, is in the ignition.

The rate at which the Korean automakers’ cars are stolen has fallen by more than half since the companies upgraded their anti-theft software, according to new research from the Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI). Hyundai and Kia thefts have soared in recent years after criminals discovered that certain car models lacked engine immobilizers — technology that has long been standard in other vehicles.

scytale ,

You’ll still get a broken window and steering column because the thieves can’t tell if the car has had the update or not and will still attempt to steal it.

JWBananas ,
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Can confirm. Happened to a friend within the past month. Theirs wasn’t even on the list of affected models.

stick2urgunz88 ,

I have a Kia and got the software upgrade; they put a little red sticker on your windows saying the vehicle is equipped with anti-theft software.

But something tells me most thieves aren’t checking for a sticker before they smash the window…

obinice ,
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Hyundai and Kia upgraded their cars’ anti-theft tech in early 2023. Vehicles equipped with the enhanced software will only start if the owner’s key, or an identical duplicate, is in the ignition.

Fucking… What? A 2023 anti theft technology upgrade added the space age cutting edge concept of starting the car with… the key?

If my car could start without the key in the bloody ignition I’d be furious, that’s what the key is for, haha. You can add extra doohickeys to enhance security, but the first line of defence is the key that starts the car.

Absolute madness.

Raiderkev ,

Watch the channel 5 Kia boys episode. It was really fucking easy to steal kia’s n Hyundai’s. Took the guy like 30 seconds to do it. You just ripped a piece of plastic off, and jammed a USB cord into the ignition, turned it, and off u went. They encountered one of these updated ones and failed as well.

Warning, the Kia boys are fucking insufferable twats.

youtu.be/DJA7jDF7bLE?si=7uoD6USzsuzg0vC2

Grippler ,

Keyless start is fucking awesome though, just get in the car and drive. I wouldn’t even consider a car without after having one with it. Pretty much all other manufacturers have this in a safe way that doesn’t make the cars easier to steal. Its not the keyless start that’s the issue, its how they implemented it.

I mean, many new cars don’t even have an old school key ignition at all.

astrsk ,
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What’s more, all keyless cars still have a fob with proximity and if the fob dies, they legally have to have a way to start the car without the fob battery which is why they all have an nfc reader somewhere (usually in a cup holder) so you can put you dead fob on it and the car will start like normal.

AceBonobo ,

A lot of smart key cars are vulnerable to relay attacks. It’s not a solved security issue by any means.

Grippler ,

AFAIK they’re not anymore vulnerable than central locking systems

msage ,

Yes they are, because keyless listens to the car asking for authorization, so you can amplify the car signal hoping the key is not too far off, and unlock the car without any other work.

scottmeme ,

My car was never affected in the first place and I’m still getting fucked by my insurance saying it’s a “theft risk” charging out the ass

mightyfoolish ,

I’m not buying this PR garbage. KIA and Hyundai thefts fall as cars lacking basic security hardware were stolen and wrecked until there are no more to steal and wreck.

Thank you for re-adding late 20th century tech to your 21st century cars. /s

einlander , (edited )

I wasn’t going to get a new car any time soon. And my next car was going to be a Kia Soul. But I went with another brand. The Kia/Hyundai brand is hot right now. Crackheads and thieves aren’t trying to figure out if your car is affected, you still end up with an inoperpable car. Maybe in a few years it will die down.

LazaroFilm ,
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Has biometric been considered for cars? I mean it’s used for phones and computers, why no cars. Maybe in addition to a key/fob. If it senses the fox and your biometrics (either finger or face or both even) it will start the car. If the car doesn’t recognize your biometrics, then you need to enter the key in the vehicle to start it. If it recognizes you can start it.

czech ,

We’ve already solved this issue without biometrics. The manufacturers just cheaped out on actually implementing it in the affected models.

Shirasho ,

I have never had a phone that has successfully unlocked the first time using biometrics. I wouldn’t say it is a solved problem or a solution. There are also implications with law enforcement when using biometrics. They can’t force you to unlock something with a password, but they can forcefully unlock something with your fingerprint.

bandwidthcrisis ,

The older fingerprint readers that were on the back or below the screen worked perfectly and near-instantly (I’ve used several Nexus, Pixel and Moto phones).

At least some of the newer in-screen readers are slow and unreliable. I’ve heard that the ultrasonic ones are better.

Tautvydaxx ,

You would all lough to your grave if you would see how shit is the immo system in these cars are. To add a new key to a car you have to read immo data of the car and than decode it to get a password to make the key. In these cars you just sit in the car, make the car go into add key mode and than just touch the key to antena, and thats it, no passwords no immo data reading.

davidagain ,

Despite the fixes, theft claims for the affected Hyundai and Kia models continue to exceed industry norms, including for vehicles equipped with the upgraded software, according to HLDI. One reason could be that the software-based immobilizer only activates if the driver remembers to lock the vehicle with a fob, while many people are in the habit of using the switch on the door handle.

If ever there were a problem that is ripe for fixing with the first version of the software upgrade, not a future one, this was it.

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