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bitwolf ,

Please let an outcome from this enable users to change the default Android search from Google search 🙏

jabjoe ,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

‘Biggest Antitrust Case of the 21st Century’ so far…

TargaryenTKE ,

We can only hope

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

tbh i care more about meta because of EEE

rozlav ,

Eee?

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

you need to get checked out, every fediverse user knows that means Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

I thought it meant “Elegant Electric Elephant”

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Eccentric Electric Erotica. Took till the third page of images for an elephant to be involved. /S (I think)

kat_angstrom ,

I thought Microsoft was the company that first embraced the whole “embrace, extend, extinguish” philosophy?

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but they ended up investing in apple to avoid more serious antitrust litigation from becoming a complete monopoly, and Linux ruined their chances of dominating the server maketshare.

Google just took it and did it more discretly over a longer period of time.

candybrie ,

My point is people still used that VHSs. They just also bought DVDs. For most people, you didn’t only use one. I think most people went through a period where they used both.

TheObviousSolution ,
@TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee avatar

But there is an alternative, search engines that say that are independent but then come crashing down when Bing goes down, which belongs to another convicted yet still existing monopoly.

iamtrashman1312 ,

Cool, now actually enforce that judgment

A_Random_Idiot ,

America needs to pick up the old ways and start going after monopolies with a sledge hammer to break them into tiny pieces again.

and pass laws that don’t let them pull an ATT and buy back all their fragments and recongeal into an even bigger, more dangerous monopoly than it was before like some kinda fucked up liquid metal terminator of capitalism.

ipkpjersi ,

Hey now, let’s not be unreasonable!!

candybrie ,

You don’t pre-emptively punish people not causing harm. That’s a bad way to go.

Baguette ,

Google no longer has the motto of “dont be evil”, I wonder why…

candybrie ,

Because they’re engaging in harmful behaviors and need to be broken up and regulated.

candybrie ,

You don’t need to bring your library. Having your library split between multiple platforms isn’t a big deal and most people do it. You just don’t give them any more money.

People didn’t not buy DVDs because they had a library of VHSs.

Jarix ,

Uh yes many of us did not buy dvds because we had vhs and couldn’t afford to switch to a new medium.

Just like if we had a dvd collection we didn’t go to HDDVD / Blueray. Many people never got into Blu-ray at all

But eventually we had to and now we have issues with drm and losing purchased digital media on streaming services

candybrie ,

I’m not talking about replacing your VHS collection but buying DVDs in addition. You would still watch both. Maybe buying a DVD player was a barrier. But it wasn’t that you owned VHS.

Jarix ,

Yes it was for many many people. You seem to find this hard to believe.

Blueray/HDDvd was out before the majority of people stopped using their vhs collections.

As tvs went digital and high def it took a long time for people to care enough to upgrade/replace

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Blueray/HDDvd was out before the majority of people stopped using their vhs collections.

Do you have a citation on this? Personally I was DVD only until I got an Xbox One, which could play Blurays.

And we got DVDs because my brother marketed getting a PS2 to my family as a DVD player and a Video Game system, as one of those alone cost the same as a PS2 at the time.

And we gave up VHS tapes long before, as space is at a premium for us. Worse quality, worse features, more work to rewatch something, bigger format, etc.

candybrie ,

Ok then switch to streaming. My point was just that just because you have a VHS collection doesn’t mean you can’t get media in another way and still use your VHS collection. And most people would use both while they transitioned. Throwing out all your VHSs for the hot new thing isn’t something a lot of people did. Or throwing out all your DVDs because streaming is a thing. People aren’t restricted to one thing.

bitjunkie ,

Fine: About $3.50

Punitive damages: lol

CaptainSpaceman ,

The fine isnt important, its if any breaking up of the company comes of it

Pika ,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh boy, can’t wait for this one to be thrown out by our totally not rigged, definitly for the people supreme Court.

werefreeatlast ,

The supremes will rule fairly! …and in the case of people vs the Google, how do you find these 3 million dollars in a quad motor Tesla?

Innocent your supremacist! Innocent!

Fedizen ,

Clarence Thomas needs a new RV, which one will google buy him?

Good_morning ,

Throw in a 4 wheeler and you’ve got a deal

BobGnarley ,

Shit, Google would probably offer a private jet fuck an RV.

technocrit ,

Clarence isn’t smart enough for that.

Patch ,

What with Trump recently declaring (in his usual completely coherent and not at all deranged manner) that Google Are Bad, the Supreme Court might not necessarily be feeling so keen to help out on this one.

bitwolf ,

Trump is mad at Google so the Republicans want it. So Supreme Court will likely rule 6/3 in favor.

Pika ,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

one can hope lol

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

Okay, now loop in reddit’s bullshit exclusivity agreement to search results and make it so no one can favor any one search engine crawler or demand payment to be shown in search. If your content is publicly accessible it should be fair game to all.

Most companies will want their site to show up on other search engines but they knew what they were doing, you only search for it on google to find results because google’s own are an SEO ad riddled mess.

stoly ,

Yep, this contract is now suspect.

werefreeatlast ,

All your thoughts R belong to US!

Jocker ,

Nice… Now do it… Break them

Electric_Druid ,

Finally, some good fucking news

fne8w2ah ,

Might not do much for the upcoming Manifest v3 doomsday but at least the current government recognises the ills of big tech as it currently stands.

Jarix ,

But is this just tactics to win an election? Will they go the distance on any trust issue, or is it all vapour?

prosp3kt ,

Maybe we should not let companies to work in a lot of areas. For example Amazon, SaaS IaaS Paas Ecommerce, ARM processors, among others. Maybe we should contain megadiversified enterprises??

BrownianMotion ,
@BrownianMotion@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure why ARM is on your angry list. They are more than happy to sell rights to other manufacturers. As far as I can tell, they have not done anything wrong, yet.

zaphod ,

The example is Amazon who have their own ARM CPUs for their datacenters. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWS_Graviton

Patch ,

The corollary of that line of thought though is that by preventing tech companies from dabbling in microprocessors you reduce competition in the microprocessor space- a sector which has proven very prone to the formation of monopolies/duopolies. If anything, we want to encourage more new competitors in that space, not fewer.

Also, it’d be essentially arbitrary. Is it OK for Apple to design its own microprocessors, but not Amazon- and if so, why? Is Google allowed if it uses them in phones like Apple, but not if it uses them in data centres like Amazon?

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