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Bob_Robertson_IX ,

Will this mean that no one will be able to pay to be the default search, or just that Google will no longer be allowed?

Honestly, Google is still the best free search even though it isn’t as good as it used to be… and if this ruling means that no one can pay to be the default then Google will still win based on name recognition and performance. Plus they will save money by not needing to give it to Apple.

The real loser here is Apple who is going to lose a fairly large revenue stream.

TheGalacticVoid ,

I imagine that, if regulators go hard enough, it’ll make sweeping changes company-wide. Google does a lot of anti-competitive behaviors that don’t involve money and are very sneaky, and as a result, we might see a lot of features be changed in the long term.

chiliedogg ,

I think this may also end up killing their deal with reddit.

HubertManne ,

we have so many freaking monopolies now a days. we really need to keep companies from owning so much. bring back the media limits and no company should be able to own multiple areas of healthcare and such.

Eldritch ,

Biggest “so far” they’re far from the only.

anticurrent , (edited )

Mark my words! the outcome of this will be like a mountain giving birth to a mouse.

Microsoft came out of such antitrust lawsuit unscathed and a decade later went back to pushing its browser down everyone’s throat.

WoahWoah ,

A mountain giving birth to a mouse? Is that a translation from another language? I’m not being critical, it’s just oddly specific and bizarre.

cupcakezealot ,
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this is why it’s silly that people are mad at mozilla for buying a privacy friendly ad company to try and break the monopoly.

priapus ,

Its seriously absurd. I hate ads, but there’s realistically not a better option to profit when providing free software and services like Mozilla is doing. Investing into ads that don’t violate your privacy is a great decision. I don’t know what the hell people want from them.

doodledup ,

They should do it like Signal: accept donations. Signal is doing just fine. But Mozilla cannot legally do that as they are a for-profit company. And Mozilla Foundation won’t do that either because they are funded by Mozilla and under their command.

Feathercrown ,

They want them to meet all of their impossibly high and contradictory standards at the same time. For free. What’s so hard about that?? /s

gnuplusmatt ,

I don’t know what the hell people want from them.

these people are probably already using forks anyway

wjrii ,

This is a big deal, but just a reminder that this is the District (trial) court, so the next step would be the Circuit Court of Appeals, followed by an appeal to the Supreme Court. There may be some intriguing injunctions that come out of this, but we’re years away from a final disposition.

For the curious, this one came out of the DC Circuit, informally known to be the most technically and administratively savvy circuit, as it deals with a LOT of nitty gritty stuff coming out of Federal agencies.

dohpaz42 ,
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I was about to comment that this is going to be appealed, and unless something changes with SCOTUS, my money is in it being reversed to some degree.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Stop making me sad, sir!!!

adarza ,

depends on when it hits the supreme court.

didn’t someone just say google was ‘very bad’ and should be ‘shut down’? …someone that helped stack the court to its current composition?

Stegget ,

Clone Teddy Roosevelt.

DaddleDew ,

No shit. Now do Amazon, apple, meta, Microsoft, Disney and all the food conglomerates. Then it will have been a good start.

disguy_ovahea ,

Walmart and telecom too.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Too big to fail financial industry should go first.

sunzu ,

oil, pharma... most of all critical aspects of every day life is controlled by oligopolies

cranakis ,

They’ve got Amazon in the works

Amazon

BossDj ,

Would be nice if we didn’t let them kill off so many other businesses first before doing something about it.

Kecessa ,

Steam…

Feathercrown ,

Steam isn’t actually a monopoly in a meaningful way

bitfucker ,

Neither did google. The problem is that this case, from the title stated in another thread, Google are doing anti-competitive shit to make sure they maintain the dominant position. But steam does not practice in anti competitive behaviours (as far as I know anyway). In fact, the competitor can arguably be held to anti competitive behaviour depending on how you spin it.

Kecessa ,

Steam is currently being sued for anti competitive practices and do we really need to wait until they do bad shit before we start to consider that a single company having good on 70% of the market isn’t a good thing?

NotMyOldRedditName ,

Isn’t that only about the 30% fee?

Steam provides a lot of value for that 30% fee, more than Apple does.

Kecessa ,

Nope, about including price fixing clauses.

The 30% fee is another issue entirely.

bitfucker ,

And that practice is what? Providing value to the consumer? The thing that MAYBE can be used against them is the clause for selling STEAM KEYS outside of steam. But that is it. Take a look at mindustry, the game is free everywhere else but steam. But that did not violate steam ToS since they didn’t sell the steam keys for less than what is listed on steam.

Kecessa ,

It’s in front of a judge right now and information is public if you want to know more, and no they’re not getting sued for providing value to the consumer (but don’t worry, they charge you enough that they can provide value AND make Newell a billionaire… so maybe you should be angry about that if you don’t care about the rest.)

Kecessa , (edited )

You don’t need to have full control of the market to be considered a monopoly, you just need a big enough share that you can make it sway in the direction that you want, which Steam has. Example: Microsoft is considered a monopoly even though there’s Apple and Linux that get market shares.

roguetrick ,

You can’t break up steam and improve the market in any particular way. Since they’re not really big on exclusivity agreements, there’s also very little a court order would do to make the market more competitive.

Kecessa ,

If consumers were more evenly spread around different platforms there would be actual competition to determine prices and margins for the developers. Right now Epic takes a smaller share of the revenues but the price is the same to try and compensate for the smaller number of buyers. With their dominant position it’s pretty much impossible to have someone join the market and truly be competitive against Valve, even if they offered a product with all the same features and more (which would require a ridiculous amount of capita), people have their well established habits and won’t move even if the product they’re using isn’t necessarily the best or they’re spending more than they need to.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Ooooooooooh shit. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Will go to SCOTUS, a few bribes will happen, then it will die.

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