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TootSweet , (edited )

How exactly are software updates supposed to extend the life of a mouse?

I get that theoretically with a subscription, they could offer to replace your mouse if the hardware broke. (Sortof like an extended warranty that you reup every month or year or whatever. Not that that isn’t a scam, but I can at least see how it could maybe look good on paper to certain people.) But that has nothing to do with software.

If the software breaks due to a software problem (and, be honest, how many people in the history of the world have ever had a mouse break due to a software problem?), I’d think it would be unlikely you could get an update to the mouse. And if the hardware breaks, the chance that it can be fixed (or even worked around) with a software update seems negligible.

Are they thinking with software updates they’ll make it continue to support newer wireless communication protocols that don’t exist yet or some BS like that? Not that that makes sense either.

Am I missing something or is the BS in this idea more evident than in most?

hushable ,

That’s exactly the point I don’t get. Every single mouse I owned, I’ve replaced it because something physically broke. My previous mouse (Logi btw) was replaced because the scroll wheel and middle click stopped working, no software or firmware update would amend that!

Delta_V ,

some of their higher end mice let you call specific functions of popular productivity software, like using the scroll wheel to change the brush size in Photoshop for example

Kyrgizion ,

(and, be honest, how many people in the history of the world have ever had a mouse break due to a software problem?)

Many moons ago, in the dark ages of Windows Vista, I had a laptop where the trackpad stopped working permanently after a specific Windows Update.

rustydomino ,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

lmfao. At one point the Logitech mouse driver for MacOS was a 1GB download. They want me to pay for that shit??? gtfo.

Crafter72 ,
@Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no, anyway. Glad I never touched their peripherals because they’re overpriced like Razer and other bigger companies.

clicking away with my knockoff OEM reliable gaming mouse

Imo software update for Mouse is not that necessarily crucial unless you had nasty bugs like Cooler Master during launching their mouse. My endgame mouse is MM712 and happy with that👍🏼

Also you can build your own mouse though iirc may be harder than building DIY keyboard (sc: built custom macropad for college project).

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

Wait is this an onion?

Arent mouse already "forever" mice. Like what goes wrong in them? I've never had a wired laser mouse fail, and the batteries ones I usually lose the adapter or let it corrode before the mouse actually fails

And if anything I only buy a new mouse for aesthetics. Or when their old mouse is grody

tmat256 ,

I’ve had buttons stop working. The mechanism inside that registers the click is a mechanical switch and they eventually die

takeda ,

I had the wheel button stop working on it once, it was still usable, just annoying, when I needed to do a middle click.

Also that happened after a decade of use.

cmnybo ,

The switches eventually fail, but most mice use the same Omron switches and they are easy enough to replace if you know how to solder. The teflon skates wear out too, but you can find replacement for most name brand mice online.

nous ,

By “forever” they mean you will be paying them forever for the privilege of using the mouse. Unless you break it that is, or they feel like they no longer want to support it at which point it will likely become a forever brick.

Blue_Morpho ,

Or when their old mouse is grody

That’s planned obsolescence. They cover the mouse in soft touch plastic that turns to glue in 5 years. It ensures that you buy a new mouse every 5 years while claiming they are reliable.

I read that acetone transforms the gluely soft touch coating to hard plastic. I did it to my old Logitech when it got grody and it is still not grody after 20 years.

lemann ,

They cover the mouse in soft touch plastic that turns to glue in 5 years

This is my pet peeve of modern electronics in general. Even my $3000 work-supplied Dell laptop is coated in this soft touch material that will inevitably turn into a gooey mess after a few years 🤦‍♂️

Also own a second-hand tablet computer that feels disgusting and sticky to hold because the soft touch coating has degraded so badly on it 😭

Sabin10 ,

Ask a razer user if their mouse/keyboard last forever.

lemmylommy ,

Yes, mice are forever mice. That’s the problem, it’s just a one time sell.

lobut ,

I was intrigued by the idea, I was like, “oooh a modular mouse where it could be a trackball or vertical mouse or multi-sensor components with obvious replacement parts that they’d sell to make it easy on repair”!

Then I saw software and I’m like wtf? do I look like I need something else to Crowdstrike me? “Can’t work today boss, credit card didn’t update my mouse subscription hang on…”

Curious_Canid ,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

Company that makes Mice: Hey, what if we actually built a good mouse!

giacomo ,

forever subscription, you say?

TK420 ,

I didn’t see Sonos being dropped from my list of companies to buy products from in 2024, is Logitech joining that list this year too?

On the right track it seems!

Microplasticbrain ,

Haha more like a never mouse

Teknikal ,
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This is moronic if we let this nonsense continue how long until we have to subscribe for a microwave, tv, hifi, salt grinder etc.

Stop giving these things money please.

ByteOnBikes ,

This is why Chinese knock offs are winning.

Not because of price, but because of shit like this.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Tangential: Is there any community for mice akin to the mechanical keyboard community?

Would love to buy an alternative but every time I do any research it boils down to “razer or logitech” with everything else being orders of magnitude shittier.

dinckelman ,

A brand, that hasn’t sold anything with good software/firmware, is trying to make a software-focused product. Peak comedy

Korkki ,

“Oooh! we wanna help the environment! Look at how green we are! It’s gonna last you a lifetime. Such quality. Such emotional investment into your personal mouse!”

Bitch! You are just inventing stupid ideas about how to turn a hardware company into a service company, because you know that is where the money is.

Maeve ,

Vance Packard warned us, in his book, The Waste Makers.

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