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Disney hack leads to 1.2TB of Slack communications leaked online

In a significant data breach, hacktivist group NullBulge has infiltrated Disney’s internal Slack infrastructure, leaking 1.2TB of sensitive data. This breach, posted on the cybercrime platform Breach Forums on July 12, 2024, exposes many of Disney’s internal communications, compromising messages, files, code, and other proprietary information.

mobilehugh ,
@mobilehugh@lemmy.ca avatar

1.5 terabytes of text is a staggering amount of data, and that is just one channel. The thought of that much ”talking" going on in one company is overwhelming.

0x0 ,

Is Disney blaming the fans yet for this hack?

KingThrillgore ,
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So we gonna finally accept that maybe all these cloud services aren’t that secure

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Nah.

5redie8 ,

Internal slack infrastructure

Taking this part of the description at face value anyway, this sounds like the opposite of the cloud.

That being said, I still agree with the statement

bamboo ,

I don’t think Slack has a self hosted version, and does not offer IP allow listing. There’s nothing preventing someone to go to disney.slack.com. I think when they say “internal” they mean for internal employees, and not like a thing for fans.

UtMan1988 ,

They do. You pay extra for it. You have to have apache or a web server configured for it, and a lot of space. Source: I configured one like 4 years ago.

ipkpjersi ,

That sounds like user error on Disney’s part then. My company uses IP whitelisting just fine.

bamboo ,

I’ve never heard of an on prem offering, which tier is that on? None of the plans mention it? slack.com/pricing

douglasg14b ,
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Just because it’s not marketed doesn’t mean it’s not offered

drislands ,

I can’t find it now, but my company attempted to get that from Slack and IIRC it was an option but more expensive than they were willing to pay.

weker01 ,

Welcome to the world of B2B where 98% of products are listed nowhere and of those products you get a listing the price is either hidden or not the price anyone really pays.

Etienne_Dahu ,

That’s what I hate the most in B2B. No transparency. How am I supposed to trust you if we start this way?

addie ,
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I think when Disney demands an internally-hosted version of your product, then the sales team tells engineering that they’ll provide one, and mark the price up accordingly. That kind of thing doesn’t appear on the external listing for everyone else.

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  • douglasg14b ,
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    Your logic isn’t making sense.

    The code would end up somewhere for others to use…? What?

    One-off products or beta offerings are often kept private, sometimes indefinitely.

    homesnatch ,

    In this case, Disney is using Slack Cloud-hosted for internal communication, but I can definitely understand people interpreting it differently.

    anivia ,

    Providing Disney with an internally hostable version of Slack doesn’t require giving them the code. They can just ship them compiled binaries

    cmhe ,

    Why would Disney demand that?

    Why would they choose slack if they want to host, maintain and be responsible for the internal chat themselves?

    They choose slack because they do it for them so that they don’t have to do it themselves. That is the selling point for them.

    Businesses buy cloud services, because they do not want to manage stuff themselves.

    bane_killgrind ,

    Ostensibly better opsec

    towerful ,

    They can still have support contracts and SLA etc from slack.
    It’s just that the servers slack runs on are on-prem and completely controlled by the business buying into the self hosted licence.
    The benefits should be tighter security (say, can only be accessed via VPN), and for many many MAU probably lower costs. Chances are, Disney already has datacenter ops and hardware contracts.

    And why choose slack? For quite a while, it was extremely common for developers (maybe even industry standard?). It had loads of features in the small market of internal chat programs. And it’s easy to build extensions and integrations for.

    I’m not saying that Disney is running on-prem slack, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were

    sunzu ,

    In a shocking move, the wage slaves found that their bosses know that they are severely underpaid.

    kate ,

    Huh, I looked through the website of the hacking team and they use slurs and talk about posting on 4chan, it’s not a great look for a group trying to get on the good side of creative peoples imo

    kate ,

    Plus in their blog post they mention that they haven’t read through most of the leaks themselves so they don’t even know what kind of info they might be posting about potentially unrelated people, in an attack on “AI” that won’t stop disney even a little bit. Like, I understand the desire to help creative people but I don’t see how this is doing that

    kate ,

    also while I am on my soap box, ai-bro and crypto-bro are gendered insults and we should do better

    ragica ,
    @ragica@lemmy.ml avatar

    Some alternate suggestions might be nice.

    ChronosTriggerWarning ,

    That’s true, but it’s so much more fulfilling to preach from upon my high horse. Do better.

    GiveMemes ,

    How do ai-bitch and crypto-cunt sound?

    orrk ,

    nah, just stick to the AI-Bro and Crypto-Bro

    JJROKCZ ,

    Touch grass

    kate ,

    average lemmy.world user

    anivia ,

    Bro is a gender neutral slang

    Tattorack ,
    @Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

    Would “crypto-twat” be more acceptable?

    JasonDJ ,

    If you’re a grey-hat/chaotic-good hacker intent on exposing corporate greed or whatever, with a cache like that, you’ve got a couple options…either release inmediately, or review the data to minimize collateral damage and release.

    If the intent was to help people, and there was no driving force to release immediately, then they should’ve waited and reviewed the data.

    I really worry if this is going to lead to my overly-ambitious infosec group putting the kibash on our unofficial/shadow-IT (fully internal) MatterMost.

    hahattpro ,

    Review the data cost your time (which is work time, could be transfer into money).

    So, better release it all.

    Tattorack ,
    @Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

    A lot of hacker groups originated on 4chan.

    MNByChoice ,

    So many passwords will be in there. And cat photos.

    ArbiterXero ,

    And jokes about meatball Ron

    sheogorath ,

    Passwords and lotsa creds. I know an infra engineer who stores all of the keys to the projects he’s involved in his message to self Slack. When I asked him about it he told me ‘when I found out that the company billed my time 5x my salary to clients I stopped caring’ and I was like OK that’s fair ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    douglasg14b ,
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    Depends. Our engineering slack (Few thousand members) doesn’t contain secrets for a few reasons:

    1. Secret scanning
    2. We have a /secret bot that will take your secret, store it securely, and then present a GUI for each person with access to display that secret “for just that person”. And then after a set period of time it’s made inaccessible, and wiped from the infra.
    3. Training and knowledge transfer on secret security

    This has been incredibly effective. Especially the secret bot.

    Turns out that the problem with people sharing secrets is just a matter of convenience. If you make a secure way convenient then everyone tends to just use it by default.

    MNByChoice ,

    “Secret Bot” sounds great!

    Custom in-house or off the shelf?

    douglasg14b ,
    @douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

    In house.

    MNByChoice ,

    Thank you. It sounds spectacular and well thought out. You must work with a great team.

    Doorbook ,

    So where we can find these data to check out?

    Evotech ,

    An export like this does not include private slack channels from what I know of Slack design and export mechanisms

    paf0 ,

    I think it would depend on the level of the account. They have that feature for compliance reasons in heavily regulated industries.

    Evotech , (edited )

    Kinda, but not even admin accounts can view/export private channels they are not a member of.

    I don’t think that’s even a feature

    ArbiterXero ,

    slack.com/…/201658943-Export-your-workspace-data

    It absolutely is.

    Slack must have this for compliance issues, or they would be locked out of many industries (like banking and insurance)

    5redie8 ,

    IIRC Admins can not, but Org owners can in certain situations.

    bamboo ,

    I had to manage a Slack migration to another org we were merging with. As the owner, normally I couldn’t even see the names of private channels, but when it came down to the migration, upgrading the account to Business+ tier, the full export included everything (private channels and DMs), which we imported into the new org.

    Slack sends notifications to all Admins that the export was happening, and i’ve only seen that notification once after using Slack for 10 years.

    Petter1 ,

    😮I bet there is some spicy stuff in the DMs of companies with 1000+ people

    homesnatch ,

    Definitely is a feature… Have personally used it.

    ArbiterXero ,
    Evotech ,

    Right, org owner

    pavnilschanda ,
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    If the content includes the Disney Vault that’d be very cool

    PrivateNoob ,

    Good. Based for Nullbulge that they have released the source for free. Their motive is to put pressure on Disney due to their wrongdoings against creative artists.

    Petter1 ,

    What source?

    PrivateNoob ,

    I don’t remember, but here is their website with a magnet link for the source: nullbulge.se/blog.html

    Petter1 ,

    😂my ad blocker does not like this website (is marked as malicious)

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