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ATDA , (edited )

In Linux I wanted a window to open in a specific place on boot. Fairly simple bash script.

In Windows FUCK YOU.

With llm’s you can get a lot of bad info but for Linux commands, basic tutorials and scripting Linux is WAY easier to learn nowadays.

Edit didn’t mean to imply Linux is easier than Windows to learn in general.

paf0 ,

Registry keys are inferior but they do exist. The last time I used Windows I just had to set some magic reg keys and it was easy to make that happen.

Tryptaminev ,

I always found that deeply problematic. Here is some obscure path to follow to set some obscure value where half of the naming does not indicate what exactly you are doing there. Also if you don’t set the data-type exactly it wont work. For a fucking 0 or 1 off/on value flag.

paf0 ,

It sucks, but at least it’s in a centralized location. Back in the INI file days you’d have to set the config in various places. Which, come to think of it, is kind of how things work in Linux.

Related to the OPs problem, do you know if there is a Startup folder in Windows still? Back in the Windows 95 days we could just drag a BAT script to that folder and it would always run on login.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not like Linux and it’s loads of shell scripts and commands is so much different.

Yesterday I booted an antivirus live-cd compiled by a computer-magazine (aimed at IT-professionals and tinkerers). The ISO is a Ubuntu 22 release. The things I had to find out (as a mainly Windows user) to set a static IP was way too annoying. When I finally found out how to configure netplan and when I did I got a nice error that gateway4 is deprecated and to please use routes.

As someone else in a thread said: It’s nice and all that Linux fits some specific uses and users but it’s not really fit for every user.
Additionally there are too many ways to do the same thing. And it applies to distros as well. A Debian-solution might work to some degree in Ubuntu but if a RHEL way works in Debian or Ubuntu is your best guess.

KillingTimeItself ,

on my i3wm workstation it’s literally a one liner in my config file, which is comprehensive across all of i3wm. Ignoring external scripts.

ruse8145 ,

What’s the use case?

ATDA ,

Just setup for various hobbies.

For example Launch freecad on my main screen, cura & firefox etc in their preset positions and windowed sizes on the second screen.

Alborlin ,

In atleast 3 distros I wanted to add program at start-up, easy peasy on windows , Linux is mess , some has gui for that but these three distorsion HAD ZERO option for it and I still don’t know how to do it.

In windows i want to serch for here is program installed, so easy to know and find . In Linux I had to fight multiple terminal commands ( in 2024 no less) and ev n then indid not come across whwre is the program installed

In Linux I plugged in hdd and wanted a program to acess its content, turns out I can’t do that without mumbo jumbo or wv n with it Whwre as in windows , inplug it and VOILA! I can access it across anything.

Linux MAY be good at something , but it still sucks for real Common usage.

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    i knt du no stuff in windo. kinux easy. Windows ftw isn’t it?

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  • Tryptaminev ,

    I had none of these issues and i don’t know what you are talking about.

    If you install programs through your package manager they come with a start-menu entry just as easily findable as in Windows. If you don’t install programs with an installer in Windows you get the same problem.

    Also mounting HDDs made its content accessible to all my programs so far, without any issue. I think you must have chosen extremely obscure distros or fucked things up by yourself during install processes.

    Atomic ,

    Which distros? Just saying Linux is kind of pointless. Linux is the kernel.

    Some distros come with more pre-installed features and functions, some come with less.

    Some are more average user-friendly than others.

    I put Debian on my laptop and have not had any problems accessing external drives or plugging in multiple monitors.

    elucubra ,

    No disrepect intended, but you do seem exceptionally tech challenged

    11111one11111 ,

    With all due respect you seem like a friendless cunt that everyone cringes at when you enter the room because you act like you can’t be bothered with any conversation that doesn’t involve a lone condescending atoadaso without any further contribution to the conversation because that would take effort. We’ll done! You have lived up to the asshole IT guy noone liked way before you became useful.

    raspberriesareyummy ,

    Edit didn’t mean to imply Linux is easier than Windows to learn in general.

    It is though. People just neglect that in today’s world, no one “learns” Windows from scratch.

    Learning to do anything from scratch is easier on most Linux distros than on Windows. The tools are better and the documentation is light years ahead. Windows is a steaming pile of horseshit in comparison. But once you’ve made yourself a cozy nest in the middle of said pile, getting to the comfy whirlpool hot tub that is linux requires you to scale over the walls of horseshit surrounding your nest. And that is what makes people claim “but Linux hard, muh duh!”

    Zeoic ,

    Would you mind sharing that script? That sounds incredibly useful lol. I’m new-ish to linux as my daily driver and love customizing it!

    ATDA ,

    of course sorry for delay.

    Requirements: wmctrl, xdotool

    My left screen is 1440p, second screen to the right is 1080 in portrait so you will have to swap the horz/vert locations to match your layout.

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">#!/bin/bash
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"># Time in seconds to wait after launch of program and manipulation of window
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">timer=5
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"># Launch FreeCAD maximized on the main screen
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">freecad &
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">sleep $timer  # Wait for FreeCAD to launch
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">wmctrl -r "FreeCAD" -b add,maximized_vert,maximized_horz
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"># Launch Cura on the second screen, top half
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">cura &
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">sleep $timer  # Wait for Cura to launch
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">xdotool search --onlyvisible --name "Ultimaker Cura" windowsize 540 960 windowmove 2560 0
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"># Launch Firefox on the second screen, bottom half
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">firefox &
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">sleep $timer  # Wait for Firefox to launch
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">xdotool search --onlyvisible --name "Mozilla Firefox" windowsize 540 960 windowmove 2560 960
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">echo "Applications have been launched and positioned."
    </span>
    
    gnutard ,

    LIBREBOOT! LIBREBOOT! LIBREBOOT!

    Mio ,

    What do Microsoft have to gain from not listening on to the users?

    archer ,

    Ask your doctor if Linux is right for you

    Agent641 ,

    He prescribed me a medication but when I went to get it from the pharmacy they just gave me a bunch of precursor chemicals which are just toxic if not combined in the right way. When I asked for help the pharmacist just said “RTFM”

    Also, what is a comorbidity?

    ChaoticEntropy , (edited )
    @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

    I’m struggling to transition still, honestly… Windows visualised as a street gives me access to all the shops and window browsing I need, everyone wants to be there and get my attention, and despite the masses of intrusive advertising and shady people around every corner watching me, I don’t have to actively navigate the street itself very much. It’s a dystopian street of neon distractions and side hustles but you can mostly shut it out and walk.

    Linux as a street is a lot barer, the street is cleaner and less intrusive, I’m not being watched from the alleyways… but there are knee high walls every few meters, there are open manhole covers here and there, and I have to actively persuade some shops to let me in or even open.

    I don’t walk down a paved street for the joy of navigating an assault course, I walk down it to get places with the least amount of friction possible and I just can’t seem to get that from Linux yet. Then again Windows would like to start stopping me every few meters and asking intrusive questions or hocking me tat, so my move is inevitable.

    fne8w2ah ,

    That makes the OP eligible for Windows-refugee status tbh.

    Netrunner ,
    @Netrunner@programming.dev avatar

    Using windows will do that.

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    Linux never looked so hot.

    HexesofVexes ,

    It isn’t your computer, user license clearly states you’re renting the software. You always have been, it’s just now they can enforce that agreement more readily. Microsoft is making a lot of bad decisions at the moment, but the majority of consumers really don’t care - adverts and surveillance are what they grew up with.

    You can switch to Linux, but as much as I love it (it’s my daily driver for work and for travel gaming, oh and the community is absolutely amazing), it’s not 1-1. You will have to jump through hoops sometimes to get things to run (but damn me there are amazing people out there who can and do help). Then again, you own it because it is free, and it will run most things with the right tweaks.

    I can’t speak for MACs (too poor to use one, my devices tend to be upgradable or VERY long life), but I hear they’re a better experience in terms of less bloat/adverts. Again though, you are renting with Apple, and are largely trapped in their ecosystem, and they have a ‘reputation’ for lack of repairability…

    lilja ,
    @lilja@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’ve been a macOS user for over a decade and I am never going back to Windows. That being said, Apple does have iCloud (their version of OneDrive) which is tightly integrated into the OS and they’re not shy about asking you to pay for more storage. They also want you to log in with an Apple ID when you first start your computer and I don’t know how easy it is to use a local account.

    It’s not the same as Windows in terms of aggressive ads and upsells, but Apple aren’t innocent in wanting more of your money. If you want true freedom you have to pay with your time and energy and run Linux.

    rottingleaf ,

    When I switched to Linux (year 2011), jumping through hoops reduced significantly, because:

    running games on builtin Intel cards etc, that is, kinda second-class citizen hardware, was anyways PITA ;

    it made my stuff run terribly faster ;

    those hoops are not too different in complexity from installing mods for games under Windows ;

    for trying to learn programming Linux is much less problematic (have ADHD, so didn’t learn much back then, but) ;

    the main issue of uninstalling McAffee went away for free ;

    I was at school, so didn’t have any problems with office suites’ incompatibilities and such ;

    and also Linux in 2011 was in general easier, don’t believe RedHat fanboys and such, it was very nice before PulseAudio, systemd and widespread adoption of GTK3, say, to change colors you just needed a 20-line .gtkrc-2.0 and .Xresources, and your WM’s config file, it’s 20 minutes from fresh install to feel normal ;

    the community was friendlier, somehow back then RTFM was considered acceptable, but people rarely used it, now everybody behaves as if RTFM was very bad, but also too many people use it, sometimes to avoid admitting that they are wrong and a certain thing is absent in TFM.

    SpaceCadet ,
    @SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

    It isn’t your computer, user license clearly states you’re renting the software

    It IS your computer, it’s just not your software.

    11111one11111 ,

    Whoa whoa whoa an operating system is not software depending who you ask lol. It’s the program that manages both your PC’s hardware and software resources. /s

    Fedditor385 ,

    It’s not that people ignore it, it’s just that they don’t really have an alternative. You can rent from Microsoft or Apple, or go the Linux way where you don’t have the proper UX an average user needs and is accustomed to with Windows or macOS.

    Omega_Jimes ,

    Like, I’d understand a free version of Windows that has the ads and bloat, but the idea that people are paying $100 for this disrespect is insane.

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