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Pulptastic ,

What happens if you refuse both options?

palordrolap ,

That's called "time to get a new job."

Before I came in here, I assumed that's what "or else" meant, and I'm still not sure it doesn't mean that.

Pulptastic ,

Can you be fired for conditions they decided to change?

Peffse ,

In the USA, if it is not explicitly written in your job description/contract that you are remote, yes. It also means you can’t apply for unemployment as you were terminated for refusal to perform work duties, even if you are working.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

In the US, yes, in most states. If you’re not following company policy, even if that changed since you started, that’s not wrongful termination unless it’s for “unfair labor practices” or something. Employment contracts don’t really exist unless you’re a contractor.

TheGalacticVoid ,

In most US states, you can be fired for any reason that isn’t explicitly illegal.

chunkystyles ,

I had one of those at my job. They fired him.

cabron_offsets ,

Lolbruh. Go ahead and tell me to go to the office 5 days. I’ll peace the fuck out.

corsicanguppy ,

I peaced out at 2. Manager was a bit of a prick, and the office was bright, hot, cramped, loud, and had no visual or audio privacy.

No fucking thanks.

Found a job thanks to my peers and it’s a little more pay and 100% remote as per the union contract. Wheeee. Work anywhere in the country.

mPony ,

Work anywhere in the country

can you remote while out of the country?

kopasz7 ,

The problem is taxation for the employer usually. But you can become self employed and pay your taxes locally as your own employer and invoice your sercices to the company you work with.

This is what I did some years ago without moving borders.

BearOfaTime ,

As intended. A Layoff by any other name…

just_another_person ,

Not for 50% of the company though. They’re going to have a rough couple years ahead of them.

golli ,

I wonder if this method doesn’t overproportionally eliminates valuable workers, who can easily switch companies.

meco03211 ,

Sounds like a problem for the next CEO. I got quarterly metrics to meet. When shit hits the fan cause all the talent left I’ll just eject with my golden parachute.

dgriffith ,

Pretty much.

Capable employees don’t raise a huge stink.

They quietly put the word out to a few people they know and play along until something interesting appears on the horizon.

Then when they’re good and ready they just “suddenly” fuck off to somewhere nicer for them.

nucleative ,

There’s a pretty good chance that every employee facing this offer is in a position where Dell sees them as replaceable. They want people who follow orders and not much more, so if you want to look at it through that filter Dell got what they wanted.

Unless somebody over there at the top is crazy, Dell would have had individual deals with the true innovators, decision makers, movers and shakers internally who are viewed as top tier and irreplaceable.

Clent ,

Quiet unionizing?

mPony ,

we should fucking hope. Might catch on

garretble ,
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They were probably like, “Finally, I can go to a company that doesn’t force me to use a Dell.”

WhiteShotgun ,

Well well well, things are off at dell, if you don’t believe me go and have a smell…

Wahots ,
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Good luck getting people to waste a ton of gas and time going into the office every day. Even before the pandemic, everyone was already using teams for meetings virtually. I think we had physical meetings a few times a year at most, and even then, some people were virtual.

jordanlund ,
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That’s consistent with my office, plus a hiring freeze so nobody new coming in.

Fortunately, for me, my cardiologist told them to pound sand. Working from home now since 2018.

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