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OfficerBribe ,

Makes sense and probably all companies that do regional pricing have a rule for this, Steam explicitly states to not do this as well

You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account.

Shardikprime ,

Thinking how this affects the people living in those countries is the best solution

Petter1 ,

They did not get me yet 🥳 (I don‘t Know why)

disconnectikacio ,

Use Smarttube instead on android tv and stbs Smarttube

For android phones, tablets: Tubular

In browser ublock blocks youtube ads, also invidious instances.

Alpha71 ,

The only thing VPN’s are good for anymore is hiding torrents. That’s it.

suction ,

Somebody should invent a way to use them for serious things, like connecting to your company’s intranet or something

Couldbealeotard ,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, my company doesn’t allow torrenting movies so a corporate VPN is useless

suction ,

Couldn’t you secretly hook up with the boss’s wife and give her the most intense orgasm of her life, so she’ll do anything for you, and you use her to ask her husband he should allow torrenting or else she will get a divorce, so he’ll allow torrenting and then the VPN would become useful?

troglodytis ,

Solid 1980s movie strategy

DarthBueller ,

Also good for getting to pornhub.com if you live in one of the states they’ve blocked.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its funny how we cant use VPNs but companies will go to the country with the lowest wages to get workers.

TooManyGames ,

Companies are free to use labor from anywhere, but make sure we can’t get their products from anywhere.

Aux ,

I mean no one is stopping you from moving to another country.

troglodytis ,

Oooo, lies

lickmygiggle ,

I’ve never seen a company SO devoted to get me to not use their service. $2-$3 a month is worth not seeing ads in my mind. They’ve made their website SO user hostile and their prices are just too damned high to justify paying them - I can just go without.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

If I could get Youtube Premium for $2-3, I’d probably pay. I don’t use it enough to justify spending $10 or whatever it is these days, so I block ads. If that stops working, I’ll stop watching Youtube.

vxx , (edited )

I would even pay the 11,99€, in fact I did in the past. Youtube’s algorithms made me stop.

Spotify for example caters to my preferences. It took a bit to train it, but the weekly selection is spot on with lots of a variety, and they don’t try to shove pop music or other mainstream stuff into my face.

YouTube tries to suckme into a shit hole of craziness at every turn. It tries to make people dumber.

militant_spider ,

How did you manage to make Spotify not a steaming pile of garbage?

vxx ,

It was hard work, but a general rule is to like only songs that you could listen every day to, make playlists for everything else.

militant_spider ,

That’s definitely what I’ve done, but it recommends country daily despite my immense hatred for it.

w3dd1e ,

I realize they charge what people are willing to pay, but can someone explain to me why YouTube costs just a couple USD a month in some countries and almost $20 a month in the US?

Are operating costs cheaper in those countries? Are they taking a loss in those counties? Or are they just price gouging in the US?

Crow ,

Well they are charging a premium for the service everywhere and more so in certain countries which can afford it but a big part is that in some countries people may only earn a few USD a day so they would not be able to afford it otherwise. I can’t speak on whether or not they are taking a loss in those countries, but i can’t imagine that they have a problem due to existing infrastructure from google all across the world.

Mnemnosyne ,

If they raise the prices in those countries they would make less money because volume of subscribers would go down enough for total income to decrease.

If they lowered the price in the US, they would make less money because the subscribers they would gain would not be enough to offset the reduced income from each.

That’s it, it has nothing to do with operating costs or fairness, it’s just a question of what price point they believe will make them the most money in a given market.

Natanael ,

Some media companies called it piracy even if you’re doing it to get paid access content they aren’t offering in your country 🤷

kromem ,

In theory the service operating costs could be spread across region differences such that in other areas it was at a loss to build and preserve market share and in richer areas it was making up for that.

But yes, in reality it’s just exploitative “what we think we can get away with” pricing to “maximize shareholder value” (which is largely BS as the vast holders of shares are very small clusters of the population but people with a handful of shares in their 401k think that statement is talking about them).

w3dd1e ,

Thanks. That’s something I hadn’t thought of.

I’m sort of more moderate when it comes to paying Google to access YouTube. I’m happy to pay for products that I use. I want Google and creators to be rewarded for services rendered, but the prices are double what they should be.

I’m one of the people who used the VPN to get Premium at an affordable rate even though I have Ublock and know about other options.

My Premium account did get canceled. I was able to sign back up via another location, but if they push me out again, I would just revert to adblockers.

I suspect other users who signed up with a VPN are like me. We are the few who know how to get around the ads but want to pay, if we can. Just a guess though.

SkunkWorkz ,

If you have an iPhone or iPad you don’t even need to use a VPN to get cheap Premium. Just make an new Apple ID with an Indian address, top it up by buying a digital Apple Card on Amazon.in and redeeming it to your Indian account in iTunes on a computer. Then on your iPad or iPhone go to your Apple ID in the settings, log out of Media and Purchases and login with the Indian account. Then you can buy Premium in the YouTube app with your Rupees, you don’t even need to change your YouTube account.

recapitated ,

I can do even better. I can hook you up with a free lifetime account, but I’m having a problem with my bank account this week. But I’ll send you $6000 dollars if you just send me $5000 back. Yeah I know it sounds weird but I’m really not hard up for cash I just can’t get my cash out of the bank at this moment so I need your help. Hit me up and we’ll figure something out, and I’ll get you that free lifetime subscription.

supercriticalcheese ,

/s missing

Lucidlethargy ,

If you pay for YouTube premium, you’re a clown and you’re only fueling the enshittification.

macrocephalic ,

If you watch ads instead of paying a modest fee to remove them then you’re a clown. Companies do need to make money for the services they provide, I just disagree with the amount.

InternetUser2012 ,

They make enough off of all my data they collect. I’m not paying them a cent for anything and I’m not watching a single ad. If you want to watch ads for shareholders, you are most definitely a clown.

derf82 ,

“Modest?” $14 a month? $5 would be modest. I literally pay less for whole as streaming services.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’d probably pay $5, and I’d certainly pay $2-3. But I don’t watch enough to justify $10+/month.

fatalError ,

If you watch enough youtube per month to see an hour of ads and you can’t block ads for some reason, you may actually be losing time/money by not paying the subscription. That said, there are ad blockers for almost every platform so it shouldn’t be too difficult to find one that works.

macrocephalic ,

I pay less than 5usd for a family plan, I just subscribed through a developing nation with a VPN.

derf82 ,

Which, as the article states, they are starting to end that practice.

macrocephalic ,

That was my comment about the amount that should be charged. I’ll happily pay $5/mo, but not $15. I’m happy to pay for services, just not the amount that many want to charge.

AProfessional ,

Youtube might be the literal most valuable site in my life, up there with Wikipedia and search engines.

A large part of my payment also goes to the channels I view.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Really? I watch very little Youtube, so I’d rather not use it than pay $10+ for it. I’m currently able to block ads, so I’ll watch as long as that’s an option.

AProfessional ,

Yeah, it has news, educational, and entertaining content. It’s a lot of value for me.

Veneroso ,

Unpopular opinion, but I also use YouTube almost exclusively.

It has my podcasts, my political livestreamers, late night shows, and multiple channels that I follow.

I also enjoy YouTube music as well.

I bought a full year, which lowers the price a little.

slimarev92 , (edited )

Ads are bad (I agree).

Paying for things is bad.

Then what’s left? YouTube should somehow be ad free and free of cost for the user forever and ever? Who’s gonna pay for the enormous costs of operating the service?

People are going to start yelling at me about capitalism and enshitiffication. Both of which cause problems, but what do you propose here? Magic?

MentorKitten ,

I’ll still call someone a clown for paying even if I’m able to acknowledge that someone has to hold the bag. Just ain’t gonna me or hopefully anyone I care about.

troglodytis ,

I propose YouTube make a MUCH better premium product and price it correctly. Paying for things is fine. Paying for things to get crappier? Na

slimarev92 ,

How is YouTube getting crappier for me as a paying customer? I feel like it hasn’t really changed in years.

troglodytis , (edited )

Glad you enjoy it. Keep doing your thing. But are you seriously deaf to the rising chorus of complaints about YouTube? This thread contains many examples of youtube’s enshitification over the few couple years. Your question feels disingenuous at best to me

slimarev92 ,

Name one complaint, other than blocking people with ad blockers. How has the actual product changed?

troglodytis ,

The worsening of recommendations/algorithm pointing to more crap content

troglodytis ,

Price increases

troglodytis ,

The death of Google music

troglodytis ,

Inability to purchase only YouTube music

troglodytis ,

4k premium only (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

troglodytis ,

Inability to remove shorts from homescreen (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

troglodytis ,

Increased family plan sharing restrictions

2xsaiko ,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’m not opposed to paying for online services in general, I’m just not going to pay them to make the site worse with every update. (Plus I kinda categorically refuse to give Google money at this point.)

Orfeluh ,
@Orfeluh@lemmy.world avatar

You can use NewPipe or Tubular for Android

Also there is piped.video/trending for watching in browser and Revanced on Android

And for anyone using YouTube Music there is Desktop app for Linux,MacOS and Windows github.com/th-ch/youtube-music

VerPoilu ,

LibreTube is also a good one. Basically an app for piped

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Is there an automated bot to archive channels from YouTube and upload them to Peertube?

aramova ,

There are repos on GitHub that pull the videos and metadata, not sure about posting to Peerhub, though if that’s possible to post via an api you could probably script it easily enough. Likely a risk of other “issues” doing so, but I’m sure some datahoarders could chime in.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I’d run this on a VPS if I could do it over the TOR network (don’t want to get caught with my CC on the line), but there’s the problem of needless duplication if this happens, so it’s likely the best if relevant authors do it themselves

EngineerGaming ,
@EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

What about renting a VPS itself over Tor using Monero, and then letting the VPS do its work normally in the clear?

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Very expensive

Andromxda , (edited )
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

BitLaunch lets you rent a VPS with crypto currency

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I’d prefer XMR

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Same, but you can always use Trocador to convert your XMR to other coins. Alternatively there are some ways to anonymously acquire BTC.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Had never heard of it, thanks. I prefer DEXes for crypto (XMR only now)

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s not perfect, there are some conversion fees, but it should be ok. I use it from time to time to pay for my seedbox.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Whom did you buy your seedbox from?

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

RapidSeedbox they accept multiple crypto currencies but unfortunately no XMR, so I had to use Trocador to convert to BTC.

EngineerGaming ,
@EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

kycnot.me lists a bunch of providers that accept XMR directly.

Takios ,
@Takios@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

If one does that, be prepared to defend yourself against the copyright infringement lawsuit that’s coming your way eventually.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Read my comment on doing it over TOR. If you have a trusty VPS, encrypt your LVM with LUKS and use that for scratch storage.

zer0squar3d ,

Not that I know of but I could create something. I would feel icky if I didn’t get the creators approval first however.

Etterra ,

NewPipe, no problems.

SomethingBurger ,

Tubular is better. It’s a fork of NewPipe with SponsorBlock built-in.

LittleBorat2 ,

That’s how it’s called now?

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes. The NewPipe x SponsorBlock repo is archived and there’s a message in the README saying:

Development Has Stopped

This fork is old and no longer maintained. See Tubular, a new fork of NewPipe.

Incogknighto ,

Is there a difference between tubular and pipepipe? Which one is better if so?

rob200 , (edited )

I use to care, but then I just use Peertube. Oh but there’s not as much content on Peertube. Put the type of content you like on Peertube make a channel it is free. Another tip is, look for specific types of content, and not specific content creators. and if you happened to find a creator you know or knew, follow them on Peertube!

I have plenty of tech Peertube channels that keep me up to date on Peertube, and it’s a type of platform that will never have ads or go a direction I don’'t want it to as a whole in terms of federation of servers and being an opensource video platform.

Server can surely make some unwelcomed decisions, and I can just change servers easily. Better then Youtube no ads, and your experience does not get throttled.

Piece_Maker ,
@Piece_Maker@feddit.uk avatar

Peertube is a crazy impressive piece of tech. Just like Lemmy and Mastodon, it needs something to happen to push users over to it (or something like it). YouTube keeps doing stupid things like this, so one day users will be pushed away from it and the creators will have to follow or die.

Maggoty ,

Okay? Just shoot yourself in the foot then.

pastermil ,

Less reason to subscribe then!

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