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angstylittlecatboy ,

It’s the lesser of two evils vs. for-profit dating apps.

rob200 ,

I didn’t know there *were government-run dating apps. Something I can research about. But this is coming from a u.s perspective. So in other countries, this might be common knowledge within their territory I understand that.

MeThisGuy ,

they want people to procreate

AFC1886VCC ,

“Please start fucking more” - Japanese govt to Japanese people

gmtom ,

But also work 16 hours a day and then go drinking afterwards.

sunzu ,

Don't be a bigot... That's japaneese corporate culture.

Why do you hate other peoples way of life?

SomeGuy69 ,

Yes finally people get it.

disconnectikacio ,

this can be a good thing… for japan (here in orbanistan it would be just another govermental scam, public money sewer :D ). I think the non free dating apps should be handled as scam, by the laws too, because those are really scams.

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

The point of for profit dating apps isn’t to find you a date. It’s to have you engage with the service for as long as possible so they can make money off you.

If you find a long term relationship, they lose a customer.

sunzu ,

Exactly... Now people use this template logic and apply to other shit in your life ;)

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly why big toilet always wants me to keep shitting.

sunzu ,

One of the few ol' relaibles tbh

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

That’s how they get ya.

sunzu ,

A man got to shit.

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

That’s what big toilet wants you to believe.

tiredofsametab ,

I imagine data security and what the government would know is putting some off. It is part of the reason the national ID (My Number) faltered.

Off the top of my head, and I'm sure there are more, people use: tinder, bumble, Pairs, Zwei, Zekushi, and probably more. Pairs and Zwei, at least, are geared toward long-term and marriage. Pairs had a very bad UX and, of course, a cost. I did meet some people on there, but nothing lasted (one nearly did, but I wasn't doing another LTR with a barely-functional alcoholic that otherwise was a great match).

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

In some ways I can see this being potentially problematic, however…

For-profit dating apps (i.e. all dating apps) are shit.

Not only do they aggressively restrict a lot of basic features behind shockingly expensive paywalls, but they also mess around with the recommendation algorithm to make you feel like you feel like you have to get the premium tier in order to even be seen sometimes.

Plus they’re literally incentivised to keep you on the app - not match you up with someone permanently. And once you’ve proven you’re someone who’s willing to pay, they really won’t want to let you go.

A publicly-owned dating app shouldn’t have these issues. Japan is incentivised to make good matches - they want to boost birthrates and curb the loneliness pandemic they’re experiencing.

I just hope Japan is a country that takes privacy and security seriously.

E: btw I mean publicly owned as in owned by the Japanese public, not as in publicly traded.

rottingleaf ,

A publicly-owned dating app shouldn’t have these issues.

If someone’s job inside that company, even publicly owned, depends on the amount of users, they are incentivized to do all the same things. And publicly-owned companies too try to be kinda profitable sometimes. There’s also corruption.

EDIT:

I just hope Japan is a country that takes privacy and security seriously.

Governments don’t.

magic_lobster_party ,

Governments are incentivized to match people to combat declining birth rates. Lower birth rates means fewer productive people to support an aging population. It’s also loss in taxes.

rottingleaf ,

Governments have no incentives. People working in them have some. Having more youngsters questioning what they are doing, working and thus not relying on aid, may be less convenient than all those old people living on pensions voting for something stupid.

TheGrandNagus ,

Governments have no incentives. People working in them have some.

By this logic, companies also aren’t incentivised to do anything, just the people working in them.

Governments do have incentives. Saying they don’t is absurd.

rottingleaf ,

Correct. Companies are not. And what they do makes sense if you look at it this way. You could even notice how this reinforces the leftist positions on economics popular here, if your thinking were just a bit more agile.

Saying they don’t is absurd.

This is not very persuasive and seems to lack any elaboration of how would that work. From the ground up, like every good elaboration does.

Governments do have incentives.

Which ones then? I’m certain I’ll be able to disprove any of them.

magic_lobster_party ,

Which ones then?

Collect taxes.

TheGrandNagus ,

No, not correct, because your take is insane.

Of course governments, companies, and other institutions have incentives. Maybe if your thinking we’re just a bit more agile (translation: if you were a bit less stupid), you’d recognise that.

rottingleaf ,

A structure of humans does not possess the same traits as a human. Are you going to argue with that?

Insults can’t fix your inability to reason.

I don’t see any arguments from you to recognize. “Of course” is not one, just like “I assure you”, and “your take is insane” is the same. Shouldn’t have considered Star Trek a smart show in your childhood, judging by the nickname.

TheGrandNagus ,

It’s not even worth explaining because it’s so obvious that they do. If you said that eating chicken raw is good for you I also wouldn’t bother explaining why that’s not true. I’d just call it out as nonsense.

You insulted me first, dipshit. Quit advertising to the world how stupid you are. I don’t know what kind of brainrot you’re experiencing, but you should get it looked at.

You’re honestly arguing that companies aren’t incentivised to do things like make profit? Or retain employees? You are brain-dead lmao

rottingleaf ,

It’s not even worth explaining because it’s so obvious that they do.

Do you think tone makes for an argument?

You’re honestly arguing that companies aren’t incentivised to do things like make profit? Or retain employees?

Companies don’t think and thus don’t have incentives.

You are brain-dead lmao

Just go away. Another confirmation that identifying with something Star Trek connected usually marks an idiot.

TheGrandNagus ,

Didn’t say tone was an argument. I said you’re a fucking idiot.

Wow you actually don’t think companies have a profit motive. HAHAHAHA. You are mentally deficient.

Aww nooo I like a TV programme you don’t like and that huwts your wittle feewings. Struggle to see what kind of argument that is, but if that’s what you want to latch onto then be my guest.

rottingleaf ,

I said you’re a fucking idiot.

And I didn’t say you are a fucking idiot, but this is a clear case of projection.

I remember you coming at me with similarly buttfuck dumb opinions on Unix.

So now I’m saying that you are a fucking idiot, ignorant and arrogant at that.

Now stop talking, please.

Siegfried ,

Plot twist, it was never about increasing births but about generating data sets

filister ,

My rent costs me pretty much how much would it cost me to raise two kids. And wondering why people don’t raise kids. Because life and rent became so expensive, it’s literally impossible to rent and raise more than two kids on two average incomes.

ryannathans ,

Based and true

altec ,

I can afford kids, but fuck making them live through this climate collapse we’ve created. I’ll adopt if I really want a kid.

rottingleaf ,

but fuck making them live through this climate collapse we’ve created

Even if that’s close enough to make them live through it - that’s how you make a decision of not having kids when somebody thinking “climate collapse is cool, let’s do it” makes a decision to have kids, naturally with such upbringing.

altec , (edited )

I’m not having children to compete with other people. I don’t want to be responsible for bringing a life into this world only to suffer as crops fail and wars for resources rage.

In America, school teachers are paid shit wages, and guns are everywhere. Quality of life is decreasing as wages stagnate, the rich get richer, and democracy slowly turns into fascism. The oceans are getting hot enough to kill the fish, and they keep getting hotter. Microplastics are literally everywhere, and we’re still learning how bad that is.

We’ve already passed the Paris Climate Accord global warming limit, and the yearly global greenhouse gas emissions are still increasing to record levels. 1.5C of warming was supposed to be the doomsday limit, but now they say 2C isn’t that bad? The moving target for the global warming limit is a joke, and the poor and impoverished are the punchline.

Sure, I get the urge to have children, but I’ve already gone through the 7 stages of grief myself about it.

rottingleaf ,

Since bronze age and till now most humans having children knew they would suffer.

Having a life is better than not existing in the first place.

And don’t worry, it’s a self-regulating system and you are on the opposite end of humanity in the sense of being the material for that regulation.

demonsword ,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

Having a life is better than not existing in the first place

I guess that anyone that has an opinion in this matter is highly biased

rottingleaf ,

True. One doesn’t have to explain their choice in having children to others anyway.

It just feels strange, to have an opportunity to give a child a better life than most of the people on the globe can, to want children, and to choose against.

demonsword ,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

True. One doesn’t have to explain their choice in having children to others anyway.

I don’t think I’d be a good parent so I decided to not have children. I’m in my forties so this is unlikely to change

It just feels strange, to have an opportunity to give a child a better life than most of the people on the globe can, to want children, and to choose against.

The future is bound to suck a lot, so I can understand people who think like that

njm1314 ,

Nah I exist and I really do have the opposite opinion.

MushuChupacabra ,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

Old Japanese men in government positions cannot, and will not fix this.

downpunxx ,

well, sure they can, in a snap of a finger, give 18 to 30 year old married Japanese free houses, free advanced education, and free childcare, this would get fixed in a matter of 20 years

sunzu ,

If they did that, why would these bitches would never fucking work!

Sidyctism2 ,

Because they would be hard at work fucking?

iiGxC ,

Honestly tho a dating site that’s not incentivized to keep people on the dating site makes a lot of sense

MintyFresh ,

Right? Done properly and without profit motivating every decision it could be a good thing. I mean I’m sure someone will find a way to make it creepy and weird, but you never know.

LoreleiSankTheShip ,

I would legit use it. For-profit dating sites suck

sunzu ,

Got to face reality that most people won't have more than 2-3 kids AND that's only if they feel economically secure and got enough free time to do it, ie live on 1 income.

Current economic regime is 69 hour work weeks while barely breaking even on the bills.

No way to tell why nobody can break replacement level 🤡

But hey we got government and tech bros who will help US!!!!

This bullshit remind me of the mental health workships at work... way to fucking miss the point "leadership"

joyjoy ,

I swear this is the plot to an anime/hentai.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Literally was a Rick & Morty episode. Kinda.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

It is when the matches aren’t optional

SuddenDownpour ,

Not “an”. Plural.

Tikiporch ,

Your efforts would be more sincere if you used complete sentences.

xavier666 ,

“The Time I Was Forced By The Government Into A Relationship With My Tsundere High-School Sweetheart”

ramble81 ,

For once not an isekai

EvilBit ,

www.pleasemakebabies.go.jp

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’m disappointed that doesn’t exist.

supercargo ,

I’m disappointed that doesn’t exist.

www.preasemakebabies.co.jp?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Now we’re talking. ;)

Petter1 ,

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