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Cossty ,

The only thing I could see myself using it for, is being in bed and watching a movie. I can do that with ar glasses for 300$.

dutchkimble ,

I myself use a 9 US$ gooseneck phone holder that gives me a great tv watching experience in bed. Came across it as a lemmy recommendation and it’s improved the quality of my life much more than some high end gadgets.

TonyTonyChopper ,
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you can get a giant 4K TV for $500 (1/7 the Vision price)

basically one TV for every room in your house

Snapz ,

BUT THE SHAREHOLDERS!!!

01011 ,

You mean they’re doing what everyone said they should have done to begin with - release an affordable consumer product that will in turn attract more developers?

AdrianTheFrog ,
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Everyone knew that they would release a cheaper model, and it was always their plan. That’s why it has ‘pro’ in its name.

01011 ,

And my point is that maybe they should have established a market by releasing a cheaper model first.

riodoro1 ,

Bro, just one more year. Let them come up with just another pair of goggles bro, trust me bro, one more year and we will be in VR future bro.

enleeten ,

In the year 2000…

JustARaccoon ,

Quest 3 adoption is super high compared to where quest 1 or 2 were at years ago, the apple vision pro wasn’t meant to create mass adoption anyway, not at that price point.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’m still waiting for:

  • good Linux support, including apps/games
  • not too expensive - $500-ish
  • relatively privacy-friendly, so anything Meta is out

Valve Index is close, but it’s expensive and Linux content is very limited. Bigscreen VR Headsets looks interesting since it seems more comfortable than Index, just as privacy-friendly, and should work on Linux, but it’s still a little expensive ($1k) and there aren’t many Linux VR apps AFAIK. I might get it though, still deciding.

cadekat ,

This requires an Apple iPhone XR or newer, as the face scan utilizes the TrueDepth sensor.

I’d rather take a plaster mold of my face than have to use a specific phone to order a VR headset.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I could probably borrow my wife’s iPhone, but agree, this isn’t great and is part of why I don’t own one. I’m guessing the custom cushion is a significant part of the price (and the appeal), so hopefully they make an alternative at some point.

TonyTonyChopper ,
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“borrow my wife’s iPhone” has to be the #1 way people order these. It makes no sense to assume your PC VR enthusiast market has a recent Apple phone on hand

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I also happen to be a Linux enthusiast, and since it’s SteamVR compatible, it should just work. There aren’t a lot of Linux compatible headsets, so I’m guessing Linux users would disproportionately be interested, and they’d disproportionately not have iphones…

Blackmist ,

To do:

Cheaper headset

Actual controllers

Make it work with PCs

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Apple: nah

Joelk111 ,

I still don’t understand how Windows got the PC name. A Mac is also a personal computer…

Also, apple isn’t going to make it work with other OSs any more than they have their other products, not sure why you’d even list that.

immutable ,

In case you are wanting the history. IBM actually coined the term PC with their IBM Personal Computers

At the time most computing platforms were incompatible. Software written for a commodore computer wouldn’t work with an apple computer wouldn’t work with an IBM PC.

The IBM PC was popular enough though that people started building “pc compatible” machines. A very popular configuration for this was intel chips with Microsoft DOS. While these machines started out as “pc compatible” after a while the IBM PC wasn’t a big deal anymore so saying “we are compatible with a machine released in 1981” just slowly morphed into “it’s a PC” as shorthand for “intel chipset with Microsoft OS”

Now why didn’t apple get the pc moniker? At the time when the IBM PC launched apple was actively building and selling their own computers and weren’t interested in making them IBM PC clones so they never went out and marketed themselves as “pc compatible” because for the most part they were not.

Thanks for attending my Ted talk

Joelk111 ,

Thanks for the history, very interesting! I still hate how the term is used today and refuse to use it.

VindictiveJudge ,
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Nowadays I mostly think of it in regards to how much control you have over the hardware. If you can Ship of Theseus your way to a completely different machine with completely different specs, that’s a PC to me. If you’re stuck with what you paid for, then it’s something else. A Mac Mini is not a PC in my book, but a Hackintosh is even though it’s the same OS and general hardware architecture.

But that’s just how I use the term.

Joelk111 ,

I still struggle to read personal computer and not think of any phone, laptop, etc as a PC. Hell, a calculator is a rudementary PC.

JohnEdwa ,
  • Don’t make it out of a solid chunk of aluminium and glass so it weighs a ton and has nothing to balance it out on the back.
sudo42 ,

Why does this feel like another “voice assistant” that we’re supposed to talk to all day?

If we worked from home, maaaayyybe voice control could be a thing once it’s 100%? But Boss Man wants us back at work. Are we really going to be a open-office with everyone talking to their computer like some sort of crypto bro boiler room?

It’s sorta like the “video phone” that everyone was dying to have for decades. We finally got it and everyone went “meh”. A few grandparents use it to talk to their grandkids. Hell, most of the current generations don’t even use phones anymore.

It’s one more technology that’s being pushed out before it’s baked and will likely be only really useful in niche applications. Really fucking good for those niche applications, but just too expensive and awkward for anyone else.

SpeedLimit55 ,

The video phone is now facetime, skype, zoom, google meet etc…

sudo42 ,

Yeah, FaceTime. But how often do people use it in practice?

Good point about Zoom. Business clearly like Zoom for meetings, but big business is still hammering BTO hard. Will Zoom be marginalized when they finally force in-person meetings?

Also, the last few companies I worked for that did Zoom meetings, everyone kept their cameras off.

Bartsbigbugbag ,

It’s not every day for everyone, but I used video calling every day to talk to my foreign spouse, and to talk to my little brothers when I was overseas. It’s pretty amazing overall.

Reyali ,

There are some demographics where its usage is extremely common. I’ve come across multiple people who are on FaceTime calls while in public. Just walking around on video and speaker, talking to someone else. I can’t conceive of using it this way, but in some social circles it’s totally normalized.

This page has some interesting quotes. Reading through, it sounds like while it’s hovering at or below the top 5 most common video chat tools. There’s a lot of bias towards quotes about 2020 usage so that’s obviously skewed, but that year at least it there were 9-25% of various demographics cited using FaceTime daily.

I use FaceTime 2-3 times a year to talk to my nephew, and maybe 3-5 times a year to screen share or show my mum things. But I do use Teams video calls literally 5 days a week (I try to avoid the video part when I can, but there are a few in leadership who really push for it. My company is never doing RTO, so I’ll accept a bit of video calling for the sake of permanent WFH!).

SpeedLimit55 ,

My kid and his friends use FaceTime instead of calling and will often be on it for hours while gaming. It’s much easier than a call for 3+ people. We are in the US but I imagine they use whatsapp or whatever the same way other places.

I work for a smaller org (less than 50 ppl) and we are generally required to have cameras on in meetings.

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