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Google Chrome’s plan to limit ad blocking extensions kicks off next week

Reminder to switch browsers if you haven’t already!

  • Google Chrome is starting to phase out older, more capable ad blocking extensions in favor of the more limited Manifest V3 system.
  • The Manifest V3 system has been criticized by groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for restricting the capabilities of web extensions.
  • Google has made concessions to Manifest V3, but limitations on content filtering remain a source of skepticism and concern.
billwashere ,

How does this affect browsers like Brave?

JackbyDev ,

Brave’s ad blocker is not an extension so it’s unaffected.

sebinspace ,

Same with Opera / Opera GX

BaardFigur ,

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    sebinspace ,

    I’m not recommending it. I’m saying that’s how its Adblock works.

    dan ,
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    I miss the old Opera, back when it had its own engine. It was a really good browser. I used it from 2002 until 2012.

    TWeaK ,

    I remember it also let you spoof your user agent, and had a built in email client. It was just generally feature rich.

    dan ,
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    Later versions had a built-in BitTorrent client too. It let you not only spoof the user agent, but it let you disable images, disable JS, block content, and a bunch of other settings per site.

    It showed a loading progress bar indicating how much of the page content had loaded.

    It had an option to only show images that were already cached - useful on very slow connections and better than just turning off all images.

    It had mouse gestures for going back/forward, opening new tabs, etc. Oh yeah, it was the first browser to ever implement tabbed browsing.

    They had an experiment where you could run decentralized services directly within the browser, called Opera Unite: howtogeek.com/…/turn-your-computer-into-a-file-mu…. They were trying to bring the web back to its original form, where everyone hosted their own content.

    All of this was built-in, and yet it was somehow lighter (in terms of RAM usage) than other browsers?

    They were truly innovating. We just don’t see a lot of software doing that any more. So many companies these days are trying to figure out how to extract more of your personal data and show you more ads.

    TWeaK ,

    Don’t recommend Brave either lol.

    egeres ,
    @egeres@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s weird that I’ve been on firefox for the vast majority of my life and I always had this perception that “everyone” was using it. Here in lemmy you hear about it all the time, my friends use it, I see it on my newsfeeds etc

    But when you check the market share it around 2.8% while chrome is 65.1% gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

    Juigi ,

    I guess average user cares mostly about how fast and smooth the browsing is. Chrome definitely has the edge on that over firefox.

    sunbeam60 ,

    I’m forced to use Chrome quite a bit (workplace silliness) and exclusively use Firefox at home. I seriously cannot see this edge that you claim Chrome has. Do you mean in loading speed? Scrolling speed?

    Siegfried ,

    I second you, I don’t see any advantage on using Chrome over Firefox.

    shrugs ,

    same for me. no noticeable difference

    RageAgainstTheRich ,

    I was at my parents house last week because i had to help them with their laptop. I told my mom about firefox and she was very confused because she doesn’t seem to understand that google chrome is a browser and that every browser can access google search or their banking site.

    It took a bit of effort to explain that firefox works the exact same but is safer and faster.

    She is now using firefox on her phone because i showed her ublock origin works with it to block ads.

    A lot of people don’t seem to understand that google chrome isn’t the internet and what exactly a browser is.

    egeres ,
    @egeres@lemmy.world avatar

    I feel like “most people” only learn “one technology per category”. They know of, one operative system, one browser, one app to mindless scroll, one program to edit text. As a developer it shocks me a little because I’m always eager to try new programming languages, technologies and ways to interact with things. I guess most people only know about edge/safari because they come pre-installed

    iopq ,

    How is that shocking?

    I use Linux, Firefox, Lemmy, nano. Why would I change?

    Malfeasant ,

    A lot of people don’t seem to understand that google chrome isn’t the internet and what exactly a browser is.

    It’s been that way for a lot longer than chrome has been the big one, it used to be the same with internet explorer…

    egeres ,
    @egeres@lemmy.world avatar

    I would even go as far as saying that the left meniscus of the gaussian thinks google chrome is “google” and the “thing that finds webs”

    Kiernian ,

    This is also why there’s such a a prevalence of flashing warning banners, fake pseudobluescreens, and other scary shit disguised in chrome notifications.

    The notifications in chrome are as close to on by default as you can get and with the right code snippets you can make it look like the FBI locked down your workstation and you need to call them.

    Firefox should start hardening against this behavior now because popularity gets targeted even more specifically.

    Make it an end user safety feature.

    Force every notification to have

    “This is a notification from a website that you elected to receive by allowing notifications. You can disable these notifications here”

    with a link to the setting on the frame of of every one, no fullscreen allowed, no flashing, double-check and prohibit the words FBI, CIA, NSA, TSA, IRS, Social Security, Microsoft, etc.

    Psythik ,

    Might have to do with the fact that Firefox was the dominant browser for quite awhile until Chrome arrived on the scene.

    ahal ,

    Iirc it peaked at around 30% market share. I think IE was around 60% at the time. So never dominant, but definitely very very widespread.

    nek0d3r ,
    @nek0d3r@lemmy.world avatar

    I remember a point around 2015ish where a lot of web apps went from recommending Firefox and Chrome for the best experience to just Chrome. Now I often see “don’t use Firefox” as a support tactic.

    mesamunefire ,

    Yeah I’ve been using it for at least a decade now. It’s great.

    frostmore , (edited )

    netscape was the standard back then when expolorer was crap…fast forward today,firefox(netscape’s successor) is still the standard when other browsers are still crap.

    edit: spelling firefox and netscape…god damn butter fingers…

    sip ,

    Firefox

    JackbyDev ,

    NetScape!

    COASTER1921 ,

    So maybe my experience is unique but websites don’t always test with Firefox now and some simply don’t work with it. I use it anyway out of principle but occasionally I need to open Chrome.

    On mobile it’s even worse. Firefox is stuttery on my Pixel 8 Pro and doesn’t handle more than ~20 open tabs well. The nightly version fixes the stutter but crashes all the time (it’s a nightly build after all so this is expected).

    iliketurtles ,

    Do you have a lot of add-ons for Firefox mobile? I’m on a pixel 7 and it is smooth with 3ish add-ons, but is slow if I have too many.

    COASTER1921 , (edited )

    Just ublock origin with default configuration. My complaints aren’t for page loading so much as scrolling. Stutter when scrolling is really annoying to me. Interestingly as mentioned the nightly version fixes this, even when ublock is also installed on it.

    My occasional page related complaints are for stuff animating correctly. This is very rare and a minor inconvenience usually, but sometimes stops you from being able to do what you came to accomplish (usually on jank websites, rental car companies for example).

    Pretending Firefox mobile is already great is counterproductive to fixing it’s issues. They don’t have extensive development resources particularly for the mobile version so it makes sense it’s worse. But to a non-techie switching to it isn’t a good experience yet. It definitely can be in the future but without at least acknowledging it’s current flaws why would anyone switch who has previously tried switching?

    Psythik ,

    This is just straight-up slander. I’ve been using Firefox since 1.0PR (so for 20 years now). It was a very rare occasion when a website wouldn’t function properly, and almost never would a website completely break. I haven’t had a single issue with a website in Firefox for over 5 years now. I would appreciate it if you could post some examples of some websites that “simply won’t work with it”, because I simply don’t believe you.

    Mobile is fine too. I have a bad habit of not closing tabs. It’s gotten so bad that the tab count number is just the infinity symbol on my phone. Still don’t have any slowdown issues on a Fold 3. Didn’t have any on my OnePlus 6T, either, nor my LG G2, nor my Galaxy S3. Quit making shit up just to have an excuse to stick with a shitty browser.

    RogueAozame ,

    Not op but moda healths find care page. It has a rapid refresh loop or just doesn’t load at all in Firefox. Chromium it works.

    MentorKitten ,

    I often have to use edge or chrome to do most if anything related to my classes or for pearson. Almost never wants to work on Firefox

    Psythik ,

    Ah yes, anything institutional or governmental tends to behind on the times when it comes to browser compatibility. Good point.

    I remember back when I tried to get assistance from my local government; the application form didn’t work unless you had IE6 (a browser that hasn’t been supported since Windows XP), in 2012.

    RokAlamSeth ,

    Brave Chad’s keep on winning and shitting on Firefart buttboys

    nutsack ,

    it’s all inevitable. client signatures, the end of privacy, jerking off on my way home from the office. there is no God

    meep_launcher ,

    We killed god and replaced it with Google.

    RokAlamSeth ,

    Brave Chads keep on winning

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