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MeanEYE ,
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People don’t seem to realize this kind of thing will be really popular. If you have a small office or you don’t do your own tech support, these deals sound awesome. Small fee and thing is always working when you need it. They don’t think about how better laser is and how longer toner can last without being used, etc. They don’t care, what they see is 36$ a month not to deal with any printer related issues. Kind of a brilliant move on HPs side. Make printers evil, then offer solution to evil via subscription. And you can bet your ass this one will magically have significantly better drivers and lower maintenance than others because those would bite into all that sweet income.

Marin_Rider ,

this is already a thing in the corporate world though and has been for over a decade, probably longer. what we don’t want is this shit in our houses

MeanEYE ,
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Something tells me it will go the same way as with other less user friendly services. Us tech-savy users will avoid this and advise people against it, and yet many will buy thinking it’s great they don’t have to deal with their printers not realizing they were forced into such position.

barsoap ,

what we don’t want is this shit in our houses

I’d totally go for such a deal for a fridge or washing machine. It would also have the nice side-effect that suddenly the company is interested in making products that actually last decades, if they don’t, they have to come and fix or replace it on their dime and the money I give them I would’ve had to set aside for replacements, anyway.

Not for a printer, though: I use that thing very rarely, doesn’t make sense to pay a monthly fee, and if it breaks down I can just go to the post office with an USB stick. Which btw is the perfect place for a public printer because letters is practically the only thing I print and while I’m there I can also buy postage because buying stamps doesn’t make sense because they appear to change postage more frequently than I send letters.

I’d expect that if HP goes that way they’ll use even more home customers to Brother, people just don’t print enough these days to make subscriptions make sense. Also let fucking inkjets fucking die, already.

bitchkat ,

You can go to Rent-a-center if you want to rent appliances.

Honytawk ,

Yes and HP is kind of the king in those circles.

We FOSS users may not like it, but it is kind of a good deal for small businesses.

radicalautonomy ,

I’ll just print off the odd thing I need a paper copy of from work and continue as I’ve done for a dexade by puposefully denying myself from the sincere privilege of paying HP another god damned red cent for as long as draw breath, kthxbai. 🖕

bitchkat ,

Too bad my old employer stopped allowing employees to access the printers. You have to email your document to a printer admin and they will print it for you.

DEngineer ,

They literally hired a person to gatekeep the printers? That is such a waste time time. One of the many reasons why corporate sucks.

bitchkat ,

Oh, they also did the same thing with a nextcloud server. There was some plugin for word or something that they needed for their workflow. But they weren’t going pay the $10 for the plugin for every every user. So they licensed it for a few clerical admins (might even be the same as the printer people) and if you needed to share a file with a customer, you emailed it to them and they stuck it on the nextcloud server and emailed the customer.

And another one is Zoom. Again, we had meeting admins with a paid zoom license. So if you wanted a meeting that wouldn’t get cut off after 40 minutes, you email the meeting admins and they would schedule it.

InternetUser2012 ,

We had that happen too after someone “accidentally” printed 3000 copies of all black.

gianni ,

I’m running a black & white wired Brother printer through a CUPS relay & I couldn’t be happier without HP’s bullshit

MeanEYE ,
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Brother is an excellent no-bullshit company. It’s was a sigh of relief when I switched from HP’s bullshit to shove-a-power-cord-and-forget approach of Brother. Even their wake up and time to first page is significantly better than HP’s. I still didn’t use up my original toner but once I do, I’ll buy original. Their almost atypical approach at this point deserves to be rewarded.

morbidcactus ,

I bought an old simple HP LaserJet like 4 years ago, it’s probably the worst printer I’ve ever used and that includes the crappy bubblejet printer we had as a kid. Shit you not, I pretty much need to hand feed the thing, it almost always fails to grab a sheet out of the tray and it’s usually crooked when it does.

Wish I hadn’t given my brother printer to my parents when I graduated honestly, was solid af. It’d be 16 years old now but still going strong.

MeanEYE ,
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Issues I experienced with my HP are hard to describe with words and have people believe you. Once it freaked out in a way where it would print exactly 2.5 pages. You give it 10 pages to print. It would print first two properly, third one comes half-way. You restart the print and offset starting page, same deal. First 2 come out perfect, third one half-way through.

I even managed to record this one. Where it would come and go from the printer list but if you were skillful enough to select it and click print it would work perfectly fine. There it was connected through network. Why it did this I don’t know.

Old HPs were great, those 20yo+. 5L, 6L series and the such, since they acquired that mechanism from Canon. This new stuff, not worth its weight in plastic.

morbidcactus ,

My MiL has this ancient deeply yellowed office grade HP laser printer she dug out as her document printer, it’s a tank and runs like a dream. Found that driver wise it seems to be easier to setup in Linux than windows, I keep meaning to setup a print server for her with an old pi I have…

That may actually be one of the weirdest issues I’ve ever heard of, were you ever able to figure out why it would only give you 2.5 pages?

MeanEYE ,
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Nope. Power cord pull and refusal to use it for a week or so solved the issue. Different one appeared though where it would print 10 copies if you requested one. God forbid you stopped it mid print. Then whenever you decided you needed something else to print it would resume where it left then print your new thing in 3-10 copies.

Luckily I ran into some open source folk, thank you whoever you are, who mentioned that open source driver is complete for my model and I should just completely remove HPLIP. This solved the issue almost completely. It would get stubborn at waking up from time to time, but printing resumed normally after not using HP software on HP printer. Ended up giving the printer to my brother who was more optimistic than me and I just bought “that one Brother printer everyone has”.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
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Everybody it’s going nuts nowadays…

Cuttlefish1111 ,

My last printer was an hp , the ink only lasted a few months. I’m done with it. At most I print a few items per month so we now go to fedex office and have it printed there for $0.20

csm10495 ,
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I’ll just point out that I have a 20 year old Dell business class color laser printer. Got it off Craigslist a few years ago for 40 bucks. It has Ethernet, with a webui. You can disable the toner chips if you want and only lose toner amount estimates and then use any toner you want. We even got the duplex attachment for it a few years ago.

It is literally at least 3 feet tall and weighs at least 50 lbs.

It literally makes all the lights in my house flick when we turn it on. We once blew a circuit when it turned on.

We lovingly call it the Old Ding Dong Printer.

As long as it works, why would I ever replace it? Products have gone downhill.

MeanEYE ,
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In part that’s why they keep adding these anti-consumer features. They don’t want you to buy something lasting 40 years. That said I will buy original toner when the time comes from Brother, because they deserve the income for not being assholes. I only wish they had recycling services in my country so I could keep the e-trash to a minimum.

Aopen ,
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Why should I care about company X launching Y, where Y is uninnovative? I percieve this post as an ad

kent_eh ,

Never own a printer again.

I’ll never own an HP printer again.

But not in the way they want…

tabular ,
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HP, Hilarious Proposition. Corperate guillotine Here Please, HP.

phoneymouse ,

How out of touch is HP? Every year I print less than the previous year. The use case for printers is dwindling. I lived quite happily without a printer for a decade. They need to find another business.

Kuvwert ,

Let’s not let them find another business to ruin… Stick with printers and fade into obscurity please HP :)

Sensitivezombie ,

$36 a month for something I would use maybe 2 or 3 times a year? That’s $432 I would pay for those 2-3 prints. Subscription based printer accessibility (not ownership) is a lossing strategy for normies like me. Maybe it may work for b2b segment. Aslo, Fuck you, HP. Thanks for convincing me not to buy your other products.

Coreidan ,

HP can pay me monthly to suck my balls. First month is free

reverendsteveii ,

First month is free

where do I sign up?

bratosch ,

Excuse me Sir, there’s a line.

trumpetmouth ,

Sir this is a Wend-- oh it’s the same price all day?

chronicledmonocle ,

I recently trashed my HP and bought a really old Dell LaserJet from government auction. $25 and it came with a 60% full toner. Been using it for 2 months and still have 54% toner left.

I’ll probably never replace this thing and keep fixing it until I can’t find parts anymore.

hagelslager ,

I have a Samsung laser printer and same.

billwashere ,

At this point, with ALL this negative press about Hp inkjet printers, who’s buying them? I certainly would never even consider one at this point. Well I’d never buy an inkjet but I digress.

AdolfSchmitler ,

Honestly. How do they still have customers?? Are the majority of consumers just accepting this?

billwashere ,

With this sort of mentality I wonder. I’m in IT and I would never suggeet any HP equipment (desktops, laptops, servers, monitors, etc).

Demdaru ,

Own an old HP.

Daaaamn this printer good!

Need new one. Get HP cuz gud, reliable and known.

Get betrayed

I_Has_A_Hat ,

HP hasn’t been good in over 20 years though. Seriously, they’ve been bottom tier for a long time now.

Demdaru ,

For people who know their stuff, sure. But for people who use printers cadually? Decade old still good.

Spacehooks ,

My corpo masters are moving us to HP because it’s cheaper…

MeanEYE ,
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As per usual they are targeting companies. Just how Windows despite its flaws, high price and security issues remains a dominant force, through retailers and OEMs. HP will sign a contract with a company, they will replace toners and provide all kinds of services for X$ a month. Then you don’t care it’s garbage that keeps messing things up. Also people higher up who sign these deals have things printed for them, they don’t mess with drivers.

KoalaUnknown ,

People buy them because they are cheap. Ecotanks and Laser printers with good features cost a lot more upfront. Not everyone thinks things through long term.

LazaroFilm ,
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My last HP printer had a serial port. It was all down hill from there.

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