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friend_of_satan ,

Watching YouTube load slowly is better than watching ads.

debil ,

Exactly! I started surfin’ da information highway in the 90’s. I remember watching an image unveil itself slowly as a morning sunrise.

net00 ,

I dusted off an old laptop, put debian on it, put an SSD and now I have my own invidious instance, among other services…

No ads, no throttling, no bullshit. Google is very welcome to suck it. I’d gladly stop using youtube, but there’s no competition.

sfgifz ,

Next step is guaranteed to be limiting the number of views without being logged in.

net00 ,

The more stuff they do to shoot themselves in the foot, the sooner something else comes in to replace youtube

Veneroso ,

I have YouTube premium. It still detects the adblocker. It’s infuriating.

itsJoelle ,

I know it’s a pain, but what’s to stop us from using download-clis? In theory I could “collect” the urls that are recommended to me from my home page, call the clis, click all the videos to update my recommendations then close the browser.

Tvkan ,

I know it’s a pain, but what’s to stop us from using download-clis?

The answer is right there.

grozzle ,

using the browser isn’t necessary to keep your watch history up to date.

yt-dlp can log in as you by reading your cookies from your browser, and, with the optional --mark-watched flag, mark your downloaded videos as watched in your YT account.

itsJoelle ,

TIL. Thank you very much. Looks like I’m going to be using that if YouTube gets even more painful.

amir_s89 ,
@amir_s89@lemmy.ml avatar

The no competition in the market, is the issue. Hope the situation improves in near future. With it innovations will gradually increase & the demand within the markets will point the directions.

0xD ,

If everyone keeps expecting everything for free there will never be competition :)

JonEFive ,

Let’s not pretend like Google isn’t earning any money

eskimofry ,

Let me convince you otherwise:

  1. Who set that expectation in the first place? Don’t all cut-throat corps undercut the previous established companies and gained a lot of market share by being “loss leaders”?
  2. Do you think YouTube would dare to go completely Pay only?
  3. Lack of competition is not an excuse to double dip on both customer data and advertisements.
  4. People who say that we need to pay for server costs should consider that streaming services are now asking for money but also introducing adverts. The money is too lucrative for them to leave on the table.
  5. Everybody is happy to pay when there’s 1 service or 2 services that give them everything for a nominal fee. Cases in point: Netflix, Steam.
  6. A lot of people pay for twitch because it’s the only platform they care about. Paying for A platform doesn’t mean we will pay for ALL platforms.
fosforus ,

Or, there is plenty of competition even now, but since users are the product, not the customer, the competition isn’t what people think it is or should be.

5redie8 ,

Thank you for reminding me to get myself an invidious instance set up. It isn’t a huge pain or anything, right?

net00 ,

Not really, they have a docker compose file ready to go, and it works without issue.

stackPeek ,
@stackPeek@lemmy.world avatar

I wish I could do the same thing with my 2008 VAIO laptop :/

soggy_kitty ,

There is competition when it comes to technology stack. People just don’t want to use alternatives because the amount of content/users is less on others.

Be the pioneer and help others move across.

keyez ,

Care to share any of the recommendations? I don’t use YouTube often but would be happy to visit and use an alternative

TeoTwawki ,
@TeoTwawki@lemmy.world avatar

“We’ll make our service worse, that’ll show them!”

Ok google, good luck with that.

soggy_kitty ,

Unless you inform those customers with some kind of UI that they’re being throttled because of ad-block how does Google expect them to uninstall it?

I genuinely believe they are trying to push adblock users off the platform completely

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

At this point I’m convinced they’re trying to drive people away to shrink the overhead on bandwidth and servers, but it doesn’t work like that. Not after you got them hooked on videos of cats after years of a steady drip of memes.

AgentGrimstone ,

I wish we can fast forward to the part where Youtube completely destroys itself and a new platform takes its place so we can enjoy it for 10 years before the enshittification cycle restarts again.

Kevnyon ,
@Kevnyon@lemmy.world avatar

The problem is that only conglomerates can eat the cost of running such a platform. Ads will be the end of free interne, that’s for sure.

test113 ,

I’m not so sure – YouTube is much larger than you might think. It’s not the video platform you grew up with anymore. No one in this world can match the backlog and content density/diversity of YouTube, not even all streaming services combined. People complaining that YouTube is dying because a few YouTubers “retire” from their main gig or that it’s not the same anymore don’t understand how YouTube works. They might not comprehend that the time of their “bubble” has come to an end. When this happens, there are already five new bubbles/niches that are even bigger, and you might not have heard of them, but they are more successful than their “predecessor.” The old bubble is still there to consume in the backlog. Someday in the future, AI will have a field day with the data accumulated via YouTube.

It is transforming, for sure, but I don’t think it will destroy itself completely. In a sense, you can say it will destroy whatever view you had of YouTube as a platform because it is not what it once was.

To my knowledge, YouTube will hit the billion-user milestone this year (Netflix currently at ~250 million paid users). If we look at other data trends from streaming services, it suggests that YouTube will grow more over the coming years. I don’t know how anyone can match YouTube as a whole. In certain niches, sure, but as a whole, it would be like fighting windmills. There’s a reason no one tries to tackle YouTube as a platform and only goes for certain niches.

TimeNaan ,

And if it would be federated, there would be no cycle.

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

I remember when they first put ads in and people rebelled. Frogs in a pot because it’s not like any of you will actually use peertube

yukiat ,
@yukiat@lemmy.world avatar

People dont use Peertube because that guy over there doesn’t use Peertube. Or that other guy. Other that person who makes content. I think you get the picture.

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

It can rip content though

swag_money ,

i feel like this has been going on for months now no? or maybe it’s the fact that my laptop is 11 years old now lol

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

I get YouTube Premium with YouTube Music for $2.60 by using ProtonVPN and connecting to Ukraine. That’s all you have to do. Once you’re connected to the YouTube premium website it’ll display Ukrainian currency which totals to $2.60 USD. You can subscribe to channel memberships in the same manner for $1.60 instead of $5.

I’d say $2.60 is a killer deal for adfree YouTube on everything and a full music streaming service.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

How do you pay for it? If I try to use a visa cc for an acct outside the US they demand I have a bank acct in that country and verify a deposit AMT.

I had one in Argentina for ages, until they pulled this trick

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

I just used my credit card. Worked fine. Checked the statement and I was charged $2.60.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Tried Ukraine, VPN was up, local address there, it just blocked me from paying with my US VISA card :/

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar
CmdData ,

Doesn’t that idea fall apart when you get to the payment method? The payment service knows in which country your bank account or PayPal account is registered that isn’t IP dependent right?

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

Nope. I just used my credit card. Charged $2.60.

Neon ,

because of People like you, the Services in these kinds of Countries gets more expensive for the People that actually live there.

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

Is this actually true? I just did a search to find any source stating this, but I couldn’t find anything.

duckmilk ,

Can someone create (or does it already exist?) an app that plays the videos in the background, remove the ads and then let you playback the whole video ad-free? Sort of like you did back in the VHS-days…

flying_sheep ,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp allows you to download them and watch them on your leisure

planish ,

On Android, there’s Newpipe which doesn’t run ads, and Newpipe x Sponsorblock which clips ads out from the video. On desktop there is FreeTube which also has SponsorBlock you can turn on.

DreamlandLividity ,

Last I checked, you can just download a youtube video. There are plenty of websites and some apps for that. No need to play it in the bacground.

Candybar121 ,

You can get this same functionality with Youtube Revanced! Free on android! No Ads! Sponsorblock built in! Background playback! And more!

Wirrvogel ,

I do not care. I only watch 10 channels and these are in my favorites. I do not use the algorithm and thanks to European law the frontpage is deactivated. I also ever watch only one video per day and then do something else, so they can slow down the website as much as they want since I am not scrolling. I click on a channel and on a video, that’s it. If it gets too bad I rather not use Youtube anymore, it is not the end of the world.

LifeOfChance ,

I mean this wholeheartedly and by no means do I mean to be rude or snarky. I’m glad that works for you but unfortunately there is a ton of us who have to use it for a huge list of things. I personally use it to learn how to fix or make things because for me I need a video for it. I use a bunch of work arounds and such but eventually this will become a bigger issue. Soon embedded videos will stop working for news websites and such at this rate.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

They’re shooting themselves in the foot if embedded videos gets disabled.

LifeOfChance ,

I completely agree. Personally the video I saw wasn’t 100% convincing mostly speculation however it shared some other points about how websites will start doing what YouTube is doing so they don’t suffer the wrath of YouTube messing with their videos. I wish I knew how to find the video I saw on tiktok they had a YouTube channel I can’t remember. I hate being THAT guy talking about videos without the link…

foo ,

You tube is a central repository for hundreds of thousands of hours of learning. So while you might know everything is a great equalizer for those who are still learning

CrowAirbrush ,

Anything better than listening 3 songs and getting 5 ads.

Stop being trash youtube. Be normal like you once were and i would actually consider a paid subscription IF i get to fully exclude shorts on my side of the platform.

WhipperSnapper ,
@WhipperSnapper@lemmy.ml avatar

Not at all a solution, but worth mentioning that in a YouTube URL you can replace /shorts/ with /v/ and get the normal player for the same video.

CrowAirbrush ,

I just want the short form content out of my life, but your tip might help others who dislike the player and not the video’s.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Only if they can detect that you’re using one.

hal_5700X ,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Man, it’s wild to see Youtube kill themselves in real time.

weirdo_from_space ,

They are going to be fine, we said the same thing when Netflix banned password sharing. People who still use YouTube don’t care.

Misconduct ,

Imagine still giving Netflix money after they consistently shit on their customers every single chance they get lol. What a bunch of suckers

ammonium ,

Wasn’t this confirmed to be an AdBlock (Plus) bug? twitter.com/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919

joinmyframily0118999 ,

Never seen the “turn off your adblock prompt” because I never login to Google. Not that hard.

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