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joinmyframily0118999 ,

Never seen the “turn off your adblock prompt” because I never login to Google. Not that hard.

ammonium ,

Wasn’t this confirmed to be an AdBlock (Plus) bug? twitter.com/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919

hal_5700X ,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Man, it’s wild to see Youtube kill themselves in real time.

weirdo_from_space ,

They are going to be fine, we said the same thing when Netflix banned password sharing. People who still use YouTube don’t care.

Misconduct ,

Imagine still giving Netflix money after they consistently shit on their customers every single chance they get lol. What a bunch of suckers

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Only if they can detect that you’re using one.

CrowAirbrush ,

Anything better than listening 3 songs and getting 5 ads.

Stop being trash youtube. Be normal like you once were and i would actually consider a paid subscription IF i get to fully exclude shorts on my side of the platform.

WhipperSnapper ,
@WhipperSnapper@lemmy.ml avatar

Not at all a solution, but worth mentioning that in a YouTube URL you can replace /shorts/ with /v/ and get the normal player for the same video.

CrowAirbrush ,

I just want the short form content out of my life, but your tip might help others who dislike the player and not the video’s.

Wirrvogel ,

I do not care. I only watch 10 channels and these are in my favorites. I do not use the algorithm and thanks to European law the frontpage is deactivated. I also ever watch only one video per day and then do something else, so they can slow down the website as much as they want since I am not scrolling. I click on a channel and on a video, that’s it. If it gets too bad I rather not use Youtube anymore, it is not the end of the world.

LifeOfChance ,

I mean this wholeheartedly and by no means do I mean to be rude or snarky. I’m glad that works for you but unfortunately there is a ton of us who have to use it for a huge list of things. I personally use it to learn how to fix or make things because for me I need a video for it. I use a bunch of work arounds and such but eventually this will become a bigger issue. Soon embedded videos will stop working for news websites and such at this rate.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

They’re shooting themselves in the foot if embedded videos gets disabled.

LifeOfChance ,

I completely agree. Personally the video I saw wasn’t 100% convincing mostly speculation however it shared some other points about how websites will start doing what YouTube is doing so they don’t suffer the wrath of YouTube messing with their videos. I wish I knew how to find the video I saw on tiktok they had a YouTube channel I can’t remember. I hate being THAT guy talking about videos without the link…

foo ,

You tube is a central repository for hundreds of thousands of hours of learning. So while you might know everything is a great equalizer for those who are still learning

duckmilk ,

Can someone create (or does it already exist?) an app that plays the videos in the background, remove the ads and then let you playback the whole video ad-free? Sort of like you did back in the VHS-days…

flying_sheep ,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp allows you to download them and watch them on your leisure

planish ,

On Android, there’s Newpipe which doesn’t run ads, and Newpipe x Sponsorblock which clips ads out from the video. On desktop there is FreeTube which also has SponsorBlock you can turn on.

DreamlandLividity ,

Last I checked, you can just download a youtube video. There are plenty of websites and some apps for that. No need to play it in the bacground.

Candybar121 ,

You can get this same functionality with Youtube Revanced! Free on android! No Ads! Sponsorblock built in! Background playback! And more!

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

I get YouTube Premium with YouTube Music for $2.60 by using ProtonVPN and connecting to Ukraine. That’s all you have to do. Once you’re connected to the YouTube premium website it’ll display Ukrainian currency which totals to $2.60 USD. You can subscribe to channel memberships in the same manner for $1.60 instead of $5.

I’d say $2.60 is a killer deal for adfree YouTube on everything and a full music streaming service.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

How do you pay for it? If I try to use a visa cc for an acct outside the US they demand I have a bank acct in that country and verify a deposit AMT.

I had one in Argentina for ages, until they pulled this trick

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

I just used my credit card. Worked fine. Checked the statement and I was charged $2.60.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Tried Ukraine, VPN was up, local address there, it just blocked me from paying with my US VISA card :/

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

Not sure what to tell ya. Worked for me.

CmdData ,

Doesn’t that idea fall apart when you get to the payment method? The payment service knows in which country your bank account or PayPal account is registered that isn’t IP dependent right?

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

Nope. I just used my credit card. Charged $2.60.

Neon ,

because of People like you, the Services in these kinds of Countries gets more expensive for the People that actually live there.

jezebelley ,
@jezebelley@leminal.space avatar

Is this actually true? I just did a search to find any source stating this, but I couldn’t find anything.

swag_money ,

i feel like this has been going on for months now no? or maybe it’s the fact that my laptop is 11 years old now lol

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

I remember when they first put ads in and people rebelled. Frogs in a pot because it’s not like any of you will actually use peertube

yukiat ,
@yukiat@lemmy.world avatar

People dont use Peertube because that guy over there doesn’t use Peertube. Or that other guy. Other that person who makes content. I think you get the picture.

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

It can rip content though

AgentGrimstone ,

I wish we can fast forward to the part where Youtube completely destroys itself and a new platform takes its place so we can enjoy it for 10 years before the enshittification cycle restarts again.

Kevnyon ,
@Kevnyon@lemmy.world avatar

The problem is that only conglomerates can eat the cost of running such a platform. Ads will be the end of free interne, that’s for sure.

test113 ,

I’m not so sure – YouTube is much larger than you might think. It’s not the video platform you grew up with anymore. No one in this world can match the backlog and content density/diversity of YouTube, not even all streaming services combined. People complaining that YouTube is dying because a few YouTubers “retire” from their main gig or that it’s not the same anymore don’t understand how YouTube works. They might not comprehend that the time of their “bubble” has come to an end. When this happens, there are already five new bubbles/niches that are even bigger, and you might not have heard of them, but they are more successful than their “predecessor.” The old bubble is still there to consume in the backlog. Someday in the future, AI will have a field day with the data accumulated via YouTube.

It is transforming, for sure, but I don’t think it will destroy itself completely. In a sense, you can say it will destroy whatever view you had of YouTube as a platform because it is not what it once was.

To my knowledge, YouTube will hit the billion-user milestone this year (Netflix currently at ~250 million paid users). If we look at other data trends from streaming services, it suggests that YouTube will grow more over the coming years. I don’t know how anyone can match YouTube as a whole. In certain niches, sure, but as a whole, it would be like fighting windmills. There’s a reason no one tries to tackle YouTube as a platform and only goes for certain niches.

TimeNaan ,

And if it would be federated, there would be no cycle.

TeoTwawki ,
@TeoTwawki@lemmy.world avatar

“We’ll make our service worse, that’ll show them!”

Ok google, good luck with that.

soggy_kitty ,

Unless you inform those customers with some kind of UI that they’re being throttled because of ad-block how does Google expect them to uninstall it?

I genuinely believe they are trying to push adblock users off the platform completely

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

At this point I’m convinced they’re trying to drive people away to shrink the overhead on bandwidth and servers, but it doesn’t work like that. Not after you got them hooked on videos of cats after years of a steady drip of memes.

net00 ,

I dusted off an old laptop, put debian on it, put an SSD and now I have my own invidious instance, among other services…

No ads, no throttling, no bullshit. Google is very welcome to suck it. I’d gladly stop using youtube, but there’s no competition.

sfgifz ,

Next step is guaranteed to be limiting the number of views without being logged in.

net00 ,

The more stuff they do to shoot themselves in the foot, the sooner something else comes in to replace youtube

Veneroso ,

I have YouTube premium. It still detects the adblocker. It’s infuriating.

itsJoelle ,

I know it’s a pain, but what’s to stop us from using download-clis? In theory I could “collect” the urls that are recommended to me from my home page, call the clis, click all the videos to update my recommendations then close the browser.

Tvkan ,

I know it’s a pain, but what’s to stop us from using download-clis?

The answer is right there.

grozzle ,

using the browser isn’t necessary to keep your watch history up to date.

yt-dlp can log in as you by reading your cookies from your browser, and, with the optional --mark-watched flag, mark your downloaded videos as watched in your YT account.

itsJoelle ,

TIL. Thank you very much. Looks like I’m going to be using that if YouTube gets even more painful.

amir_s89 ,
@amir_s89@lemmy.ml avatar

The no competition in the market, is the issue. Hope the situation improves in near future. With it innovations will gradually increase & the demand within the markets will point the directions.

0xD ,

If everyone keeps expecting everything for free there will never be competition :)

JonEFive ,

Let’s not pretend like Google isn’t earning any money

eskimofry ,

Let me convince you otherwise:

  1. Who set that expectation in the first place? Don’t all cut-throat corps undercut the previous established companies and gained a lot of market share by being “loss leaders”?
  2. Do you think YouTube would dare to go completely Pay only?
  3. Lack of competition is not an excuse to double dip on both customer data and advertisements.
  4. People who say that we need to pay for server costs should consider that streaming services are now asking for money but also introducing adverts. The money is too lucrative for them to leave on the table.
  5. Everybody is happy to pay when there’s 1 service or 2 services that give them everything for a nominal fee. Cases in point: Netflix, Steam.
  6. A lot of people pay for twitch because it’s the only platform they care about. Paying for A platform doesn’t mean we will pay for ALL platforms.
fosforus ,

Or, there is plenty of competition even now, but since users are the product, not the customer, the competition isn’t what people think it is or should be.

5redie8 ,

Thank you for reminding me to get myself an invidious instance set up. It isn’t a huge pain or anything, right?

net00 ,

Not really, they have a docker compose file ready to go, and it works without issue.

stackPeek ,
@stackPeek@lemmy.world avatar

I wish I could do the same thing with my 2008 VAIO laptop :/

soggy_kitty ,

There is competition when it comes to technology stack. People just don’t want to use alternatives because the amount of content/users is less on others.

Be the pioneer and help others move across.

keyez ,

Care to share any of the recommendations? I don’t use YouTube often but would be happy to visit and use an alternative

friend_of_satan ,

Watching YouTube load slowly is better than watching ads.

debil ,

Exactly! I started surfin’ da information highway in the 90’s. I remember watching an image unveil itself slowly as a morning sunrise.

ZombieMantis ,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

Nationalize YouTube.

Specifically, nationalize the backend, Google can keep their website. And place it in the hands of something like the UN, rather than any specific country. I hardly trust Uncle Sam any more than Google’s investors. They’ve successfully monopolized video hosting, now turn it into a public resource.

And open it up to the world, too. Google might get to keep their website, but everyone else can access the same database, too. May the best front end win.

Xavier ,

Sorry to burst your little bubble but the UN charter specifically states it is an intergovernmental organization whose stated purposes are to maintain international peace and security, develop friendly relations among nations, achieve international cooperation, and serve as a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations.

As much as some may want to believe the UN is some sort of «Global Supreme Court», it is not. It mainly functions by consensus of all other nation (including those who explicitly chooses to abstain). Therefore, by making the UN somehow responsible for the “backend”, as you have said, or as the custodian of the entire repository/library of videos uploaded to YouTube, every member nations would then have their own priorities on what to “keep” and what to “remove” from the repository/library. Since the UN works principaly by consensus only a very small subset of all the videos will be kept as being universally non-controversial. Hence, the majority of videos will be irrecoverably erased.

Perhaps you meant a NGO (non-governmental organization) or a non-profit organization such as the Internet Archive. However, storage and maintenance for such a vast collection of large media (videos) is non-trivial and expensive that very few non-profit could administer.

Alternatively, with a fediverse-like protocol, everyone will be responsible to host their own videos and also videos they consider important/valuable to archive and/or help distribute. Thus, no single point of control and no need to “nationalize” YouTube. Of course it is hard and complex, nevertheless it is only the first step toward a more resilient and a more equitable video sharing/distribution infrastructure.

eskimofry ,

Curiously, that would mean a peer-tube network of server instances for which YouTube becomes a frontend.

JonEFive ,

These are some very pretty words that express ideas without much self-reflection on why the ideas might be bad.

I mean, I suppose you did say it yourself that you can’t trust the US government… but why would you trust ANY government? You know why I trust Google more than any government? I understand Google’s motivations ($$$). Put something into the hands of government and suddenly that thing is burdened by the desires of every politician and their special interest financiers.

“Place it in the hands of something like the UN” would mean some international body I assume. Comprised of and led by whom exactly? And also, who would fund the thing? You suggest nationalization, so… taxpayers? Sure, here’s your $99/year Degooglebase access fee tax I guess? And beyond just making sure there’s enough money to keep the lights on, we need to make sure there’s enough money to pay creators. After all, YouTube isn’t just a library. It’s an economy larger than some countries and there would be consequences to destabilizing that economy. People aren’t just posting content for the love of the shared experience.

Please don’t take what I’m saying here to be a defense of Google. Google is a shitty company for so many reasons. But advocating for nationalization of YouTube is just a horrifically bad idea in such manner as it was presented.

But - all is not lost. First: for the creators you enjoy - find ways to support them other than Google. Make it possible for them to continue when YouTube stops being lucrative enough.

Second: find, use, and advocate for the use of alternative services. There is no single site that is going to be able to replace YouTube. It simply isn’t going to happen unless PornHub wants to step up to the game and create their own SFW site YouTube-killer. They have the infrastructure and capacity to host and share absolutely massive amounts of video and have the business capabilities to accept income and pass it on to creators on a large scale. But that’s an entirely different discussion.

Best to look at things differently. Like the Fediverse and the internet itself, it might be better off if the platform were distributed.

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