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admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

Eh. Gen-x here. I still have an hour long phonecall over signal with my best friend over signal two times a week or so.

In my teens I wasn’t too happy about making phonecalls either, but working on a helpdesk for a while sure cured that.

On the other hand, I live in a country with consumer protection, so robocalls are not a thing. And I’d strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger (and GDPR) those companies who attempt to poison and destroy my personal attention.

johannesvanderwhales ,

The US has a do not call list. The vast majority of robocalls are illegal scams which originate from outside of the country.

Perhapsjustsniffit ,

Canada as well.

admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

So those calls are not for the benefit of US companies?

BearOfaTime ,

Who knows?

We know the call center is not US-based, as those can be fined.

I’d venture most are scams too.

johannesvanderwhales ,

Like I said, they’re mostly scams. Warranty scams. Posing as “your bank” (which they, of course, don’t name). Etc. Legitimate companies follow the do not call list, since there are heavy penalties if they don’t.

BellyPurpledGerbil ,

Everyone I need to talk to is in my contacts. If you’re not in my contacts, my phone doesn’t even ring. You go straight to voicemail.

I was fine with phone calls when I was younger. Now it’s mostly spam robocalls or scammers or both. Nobody seems interested in solving those problems.

barsquid ,

I am interested in solving them. Here’s how: if you get any phone call that makes you even the slightest bit irritated, you hit a button and receive a quarter paid by the caller. This is traced through carriers. If the trace cannot continue for any reason or exits US jurisdiction, the most recent carrier foots the bill. I guarantee that spam calls will suddenly cease to exist overnight.

BearOfaTime ,

I like the way you think.

This kind of approach solves so many problems, as the vendors have a vested interest

tabular , (edited )
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

A photograph of the hand puppet “Kermit the frog” inside an office with a smart phone. There is text above the photograph. Kermit is implied to be sitting on a computer chair, casually resting his legs up as if leaning them on a desk. Kermit is holding the phone and looking at it’s screen. The text above reads, “me waiting for my phone to stop ringing as I don’t use it for that”.

otter ,

This is part of the problem for me. I can’t dismiss the popup unless I hang up, and I don’t want to do that in case my number gets marked as “active”.

So I sit there and wait till I can use it again.

Also I appreciate the detailed alt text :)

acosmichippo ,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

at least on iphone you can swipe away the notification without hanging up.

BearOfaTime ,

Yet Another Call Blocker solves that problem.

I send all calls other than contacts directly to voice mail, and my phone never even rings.

aoidenpa ,

This is soo me! Declining the call would pull more attention. I play dead.

nondescripthandle ,

Let it ring. Robocall centers only work when they maximize volume, the more time they spend not getting an answer the more money they’re not making. If you wanna get real saucy, wait as long as you can, accept the call, say nothing or mute your mic. They wont spend more than 5-10 seconds before they hang up on you though because they know it too.

dgriffith ,

Letting it ring has no impact. They have autodiallers that call, and when someone picks up, only then is that call assigned to someone in the call centre.

You can often tell this because there is a marked delay in the response to your initial “Hello?”. Long enough that you can reliably just hang up if you don’t hear a response in two seconds.

If it’s a real person who actually wants to call you and they you call again straight away, you can just shrug off your hang-up as a network issue.

BearOfaTime ,

That’s why I just block all calls and send them to voicemail.

If we need a phone call, we’ll schedule it, and we’ll be using an app.

3aqn5k6ryk ,

There is a setting in iphone that i enabled to silence unknown caller. Havent turn it off since i enable it. I usually ignore anyone who isnt in my contacts.

cheese_greater ,

Its a great feature but I’ll do you one better (or orthogonal):

There are apps that let you set block ranges so when you get a million calls from variations of something like 1-876-543-2109, you can block all of them with basically whatever granularity you need 1+ digits) It should be built in but you have to buy it for like $3-4, but absolutely worth it

EatATaco ,

I have kids and sometimes it’s important thing from a doctor/school/whatever that I want to get.

However, I’m lucky that my cell phone area code is nowhere near where I live, so if I see an area code near my phones area code, I know it’s almost certainly spam. If I get a call from near where I live, its almost certainly legitimate.

barsquid ,

Both phone calls and emails are so full of ad-ridden garbage that they are useless for communication.

Texts are better signal-to-noise ratio, for me it is more like only 1% con artist identity thieves compared to the 99% coming via phone call.

sushibowl ,

I don’t know if phone call spam is only an American thing or something. In my country (and most of Europe) that stuff is effectively banned and doesn’t really happen.

Still hate getting calls though.

belated_frog_pants ,

Spam has destroyed the phonecall. I screen everything and people know to text me first.

Besides its rude to think you can just interrupt someone in the middle of what they are doing without asking via text first anyway.

floofloof ,

I’ve been nervous of phoning people since long before cellphones were invented, precisely because it always seemed rude to make someone’s phone ring and demand a conversation when they’re in the middle of whatever they’re doing. It’s interesting to see more people coming to see it like this.

Tiltinyall ,

I would flat out ignore the pony express rider when he came galloping up with all that noise and dust. Who does he think he is?

Krejall ,

Is that not what the post office is for? Were pony express riders stopping at every individual farm and cabin?

Pyr_Pressure ,

I view phoning someone like popping over to their house and knocking on the door to chat with no prior warning. No one likes that.

geneva_convenience ,

A recent survey found a quarter of people aged 18 to 34 never answer the phone - respondents say they ignore the ringing, respond via text or search the number online if they don’t recognise it.

As they should.

gearheart ,

99% of phone calls is typically a capitalistic company forcing employees to sell us something.

So yes… I’m not gonna pick up. Leave a voicemail 👍

tooLikeTheNope ,

99% of phone calls is typically a capitalistic company forcing employees using chatbots to sell us something.

employees are so 2010, FIFY

JesusSon ,
@JesusSon@lemmy.world avatar

I am Gen X (1970 give or take a couple of years) and I don’t answer shit. I look up numbers and rarely listen to Voicemails. If you know me and I want to talk to you, you will know how to reach me. Everyone else can get fucked.

I think it’s less generational and more fuck all this spam and scams.

witty_username ,

I read your message in Fred Durst’s voice

acosmichippo ,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

in my voicemail greeting i tell people to text or email me.

beejjorgensen ,
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m the same generation. My flowchart is: known contact, answer. Unknown contact, voicemail. Automatic VM transcriptions are great.

Perhapsjustsniffit ,

Gen X’er. Same here. I don’t even leave the ringer turned on on my phone. Fuck that shit. If you know me too know how to find me.

trk ,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

“A voice note is just like talking on the phone but better,” says Susie Jones, a 19-year-old student. “You get the benefits of hearing your friend’s voice but comes with no pressures so it’s a more polite way of communicating”.

Gross, voice notes are the worst of both worlds.

Text for things that are information critical, voice for things that are time critical.

Email for business (and keep the original chain going instead of starting a new one every time you think of something else to add!), text messages for associates, chat apps for friends and family.

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Midnitte ,

I mostly agree, but I think voice notes for close friends/family probably have a point.

At this point, I would also argue that texts/emails are also for time critical things since voice calls are essentially dead at this point.

99.99999% of the phone calls I get are spam. I haven’t gotten a new voice mail in like 6 months.

belated_frog_pants ,

They are the worst unless you want to hear that person’s voice.

otter ,

I don’t think anyone answers the phone now, unless they recognize the number.

Most of the calls I get are

  • spam
  • spam
  • someone sent me a time sensitive message, so they ring me once to respond faster
  • spam
echo ,

Yeah, I’m early gen-x and I only answer the phone if its a member of my immediate family and even then it’s 50/50. Capitalism ruins everything. Need to talk to me? Leave a message and I’ll decide if and when to call you back.

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Everyone I want to talk to knows not to call me; I feel exactly the same. Phones used to be useful, but the sheer volume of telemarketers and scams have reduced it to uselessness. If it wasn’t for 2FA occasionally requiring a phone number, I wouldn’t even have one at this point.

ReversalHatchery ,

Same. In the last few years (2-3 probably, I don’t count) I don’t think I have given it out anywhere. I just pretend to not have a phone number, and if people think that’s weird I don’t care, deal with it. Nowadays if a service requires my phone number, I don’t need that service. Or in rare cases I’ll try to find a free online number for receiving a code, but that’s the only alternative I take.

metaStatic ,

2FA

Use an authenticator or Yubi key. SMS authentication is the worst possible method.

chiisana ,
@chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net avatar

You don’t always have a choice as it is dictated by the service provider, but whenever possible, disable SMS based MFA and enable TOTP or something else. SMS based MFA is susceptible to SS7 MitM attack.

metaStatic ,

Settings>Do not disturb>exceptions>Caller in contacts

alt: Set default ringtone to silent, no vibration, Set people in contacts to custom ringtones.

colournoun ,

Also on iOS: Settings > Phone > Silence Unknown Callers

acosmichippo ,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

in ios there is a phone app setting to silence unknown callers.

Maestro ,

American? I'm from The Netherlands and I get maybe 1 spam call every other month or so. And I've been using the same number for almost 25 years.

Midnitte ,

Must be nice to a functional telecommunications agency that has the tools to punish soammers.

belated_frog_pants ,

Oh we do too. Verizon and att make money off of selling the scammers our phone numbers and they wont spend the money to stop it

otter ,

Canada, we face the same issues as the US for telecom stuff

umami_wasbi ,

Lucky me I rarely get spam calls

KyuubiNoKitsune ,

I don’t really get the whole not answering the phone thing. I hate phonecalls but I always answer my phone.

The amount of important calls I’d have missed if I buried my head in the sand like that is insane.

Sure if 90% of the calls were sales or scams I’d think differently, but there are ways to prevent that too.

I find it weird that everyone has their phone on silent all the time too. If mine was on silent I’d never look at it unless I’m bored.

borari ,

You realize that it still vibrates when on silent, so you know when you’re getting a text or phone call right?

KyuubiNoKitsune ,

Only if it’s right by you or isn’t in your bag or something. Hence audible alerts, they break through the physical barriers.

StaySquared ,

I’m a millennial myself, quite frankly after so many years of receiving robo-marketing calls, attempted warranty scams, collections agencies (not for me, for other people who had my number previously, I assume), etc… etc… in the last 15-ish years I don’t answer a call if I don’t recognize the number.

Arfman ,

I can’t speak for others but as an older millennial, I grew up liking spending time on the phone with friends and loved ones. However in my adult life, I spent being anxious waiting for phone calls regarding job interviews and outcomes of them, and even being interviewed on some of them, including those without much notice. I also had to make calls to follow up things urgently or if I’m in trouble. As a result, I started to equate phone calls as mostly negative experiences.

metaStatic ,

I always answer the phone.

Because if you're not in my contacts my phone doesn't even ring.

foster_hangdaan ,

This. I just set my phone to Do not disturb and only the calls from my contacts list are exempted.

acosmichippo ,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

in ios the phone app has a setting to silence unknown callers.

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