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inclementimmigrant , in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels

I mean maybe? I certainly was both a PC and Console gamer for most of my life now and I’m certain there will be a percentage that will continue to do so.

Nowadays? Nah, I’m out of the console game since graphics aren’t better than the PC and the PC options for playing on a TV are numerous now.

MystikIncarnate , in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels

You see, I don’t play games on consoles because I don’t like controllers.

I mean, I’ll use them in some scenarios, but the position I need to sit in to hold a controller is usually uncomfortable.

I’ve been playing PC games since the 90’s. I picked up an Xbox one S, and even set it up, and it’s been very good at collecting dust since I bought it. I got it used, so no big loss, but still.

I’m not going to pay $500+ for another dust collector, just to have the privilege to pay extra for games, and be uncomfortable playing them, then have no option to switch to a PC later because I only own that game on the stupid console.

It’s a waste of my time and money.

And if I really want to play a game with a controller, I can do that on my PC too.

Simply, if I buy a game on console, I’m forced to use that console and it’s controller, to play. If I buy it on PC, I can play it however the fuck I want to, on any system I want to. Fuck your exclusivity deals, and fuck you.

CaptainBasculin ,

While I typically play most games via kb/m; I can’t imagine ever playing racing games with it. Nothing beats the analog controls for me on these.

Sir_Kevin , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account
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I’m not necessarily opposed to needing a third party account for a game. VRChat for instance requires it but that makes it easy to use your same account on many different devices/platforms.

That said, Sony has a long track record of leaks, hacks, terrible and outright illegal practices and is generally shitty to their customers. So no, hell no, I will not sign up with them for anything.

Kecessa , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Quick, change your reviews to negative and change it back to positive as soon as they reverse course, this way they never do that again!

Fucking HD2 players who thought they had taught Sony a lesson.

Goldmage263 ,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

“We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable.”

Yeah. I heard them the first time. They’ll try it again and again until they find a way to have enough people ok with using it. Here is the next try.

Carighan ,
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Especially because did they ever actually revert it? No, right? The game is still delisted in all non PSN countries, right?

Kecessa ,

They just removed the requirement but didn’t make the game available in non PSN countries so they can just revert back to needing it whenever they want

JusticeForPorygon , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

So their gonna expand PSN access to more regions so people can play these games, right?

…right?

pro_grammer OP ,

Sony: lmao

Donebrach , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account
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Just make a PSN account. Use a burner email if you’re concerned about vague corporate data mining. Or, alternatively, play something else.

sunred ,
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This is arguably less about us few privileged having to create an account on a shitty platform, just like with ea and ubisoft, but more about people from 175 countries not even being able to buy the game just because Sony doesn’t offer their services there even though it’s a singleplayer game distributed through Steam like many of their past games.

PunnyName ,

The Internet was supposed to free us of this antiquated regional bullshit. But companies made the decision to keep erecting picket fences.

trslim , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Hows ps4 emulation these days btw?

olicvb ,
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Seems barebones : ( (but am still hopeful)

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/213ef230-a1f9-43f3-b59c-886d92c45c41.png

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bennieandthez , (edited ) in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels
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bruh there are like a billion games on the steam store, no one is desperate for exclusive games anymore 😂

entropicshart , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Oh no! Guess I’ll just grab one from the high seas instead then.

Desmond373 , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Well that sucks, I guess I’ll be playing without buying then.

ChallengeApathy , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account
NOT_RICK , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Sony’s about to get a lot of Munchma Quchi’s and Deez Nutz creating accounts. Too bad they won’t care because a line will go up

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

That first name was new to me. Cheers

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

It’s from one of the few times Stephen Colbert broke character on the Colbert Report

Kekzkrieger , in Until Dawn will also require a PSN Account to play on Steam. I think we already got the message, every playstation game will now require a PSN account

Refund that shit, or dont buy it.

Vote with your wallet

Audrey0nne ,

If we couldn’t stop micro transactions at horse armor we’re not stopping this. The lure of Sony exclusives is going to outweigh privacy concerns every day of the week.

You also have to understand that releasing on Steam is only short term action, the plan is going be to bring PSN to PC and to release Sony hardware to go with it. Steam has had it too good for too long and Microsoft’s aggressive moves over the past couple of years has forced Sony’s hand.

ech ,

People don’t (or shouldn’t) vote only when they know they’ll get what they want. That’s a good way to never get anything done. The only way to achieve anything is by acting with conviction and encouraging/hoping others do the same.

shneancy ,

so you’re going to quietly take all the shit they feed you? Being loud, obnoxious, and defiant gets results, sitting and being silently sad about the state of things just allows those who don’t know any better to provide the feedback money men are looking for.

Audrey0nne ,

What shit? As far as I can tell they are being completely transparent about their designs to acquire your data.

How exactly do you suppose a device like the Steam Deck even came to be? By harvesting user data, now Sony wants a seat at the table and suddenly they’re the fucking bogey man? Give me a break.

VeryImportantUser ,

they are being completely transparent about their designs to acquire your data.

and so are we by voicing our opinions

How exactly do you suppose a device like the Steam Deck even came to be? By harvesting user data,

Any source for that claim?

Audrey0nne ,

Well there’s the monthly hardware and software survey and whatever users didn’t willingly provide was probably bought from Google. I mean I wish I could find a source but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how companies who want to sell you things would go about selling you things. I could if you ask nicely, give you a basic summary of how marketing data is used by entities seeking profit to R&D products and services.

We’re all voicing opinions. I chose mine and don’t begrudge yours.

VeryImportantUser ,

there’s the monthly hardware and software survey

It’s optional.

whatever users didn’t willingly provide was probably bought from Google.

Ah, yes, probably.

I mean I wish I could find a source

No surprise there.

We’re all voicing opinions. I chose mine and don’t begrudge yours.

More like false accusations.

Audrey0nne ,

More like false accusations.

This is gold. Imma remember this one fondly.

I’m not accusing Valve of anything, other than presenting the likely scenario of how using monthly hardware and software survey in conjunction with data bought from Google went towards the development of the Steam Deck. If you cannot accept that as a plausibility that’s your problem not mine. The proof you keep getting your gaiters in a twist over could only come from corporate espionage or Valve themselves releasing to the public.

Picking my statement apart did you no favors in trying to prove your point. Honestly don’t know what your point is other than you’re mad I’m not on my knees gargling daddy Gabe’s balls as hard.

VeryImportantUser ,

did you no favors in trying to prove your point

There is no point to prove. You just made shit up and try to defend it by “but it’s a possibility”. It’s pretty hard to argue against a made up scenario of Google buying data from Valve to fund Steam Deck.

Audrey0nne ,

there’s the monthly hardware and software survey

It’s optional.

whatever users didn’t willingly provide was probably bought from Google.

Ah, yes, probably.

I mean I wish I could find a source

No surprise there.

We’re all voicing opinions. I chose mine and don’t begrudge yours.

More like false accusations.

Your words in bold to highlight how hard it is for you to believe that Valve bought data from Google to create the Steam Deck.

shneancy ,

it’s not about probability it’s that you just made it up.

Valve has better, more probable sources of income, like for example, Steam?, they take a cut out of every sale of course they’re swimming in enough money to fund whatever project they desire.

And I know that Google is willing to buy any data, but what for would it need PC specs? What marketable insight about a person does it provide? “ah this guy has a high end graphics card, he uh, well he could be a graphic artist but this is data from steam so he’s uh probably a gamer ig”

I understand your instinct to doubt every company out there, it’s a good instinct, companies are not your friends after all, but man, at least try to make your claims against those companies plausible not just possible.

Audrey0nne ,

Yeah my claim is that Valve used the data from their monthly survey and anything that was not willingly provided from users was bought from Google to R&D the Steam Deck. If that isn’t a probable or plausible scenario to you then you simply don’t understand why marketing data is useful.

I never said anything about selling out to Google.

GregorGizeh ,

I dont know really, I haven’t played any sony titles since the ps2 days and looking at their catalogue there is nothing that really interests me. The only exception being helldivers, though I would have refunded that if the psn crap went through. It is also more an arrowhead than sony game.

I dont think I have steam friends playing actual sony games either, perhaps my perspective is skewed but I believe you overestimate the pull of the console franchises for people who can choose out of an enormous selection of games on steam, with plenty high profile ones available.

Audrey0nne ,

It’s likely that you and your friends are not indicative of the average user. I’m certainly not, the games I play are not reflective of what is popular in market.

It’s not pull of console franchises that would win people over but ease of access that will. It’s the whole reason consoles exist in the first place.

Dudewitbow ,

depends on context of what youre trying to do. just because it has failed once means its failed in the history of all games.

take for a old major game for example that is one of the progenitors of microtransactions maplestory. back in 2020/2021, nexon in Korea did some underhand shit, and whales in the game collectively created a round table to demand changes to the game and succeeded. result of all the underhanded shit caused a 9 million dollar lawsuit and fundamentally changed aspects of the game. On the Global server, a user was about to hit level 300 (the current cap) and the company advertised his stream, instead of hitting 300, he spent 45 minutes ranting about how broken the game is, then logged off without leveling with a 20k viewership on twitch. 2 days ago they push out a notice adressing that they are trying to change a lot of the longstanding problems that the rant adresses directly.

never say it never works, but it can, but doesnt always work.

Audrey0nne ,

I understand what you’re saying but there will never not be mtx in games. Even if these guys are getting raked over the coals the only lesson being taken away is to nickle and dime you slower.

Dudewitbow ,

but thats when youre trying to have a situation where decisions are binary. the idea of binary sides is what causes defeatist attitude for change when things arent binary. Just because mtx wont go away doesnt mean you should stop trying to make it less worse than it is.

an example is the movement to 70$ games. we well all agree that its eventually going to happen, but it doesnt stop that you can make it less worse now as in the past year, several back to back viral games werent AAA priced titles.

Audrey0nne ,

I’m not a defeatist, I’m just wondering if this battle is worth making a stand at when in order to change the gaming industry you first have to change the nature of industry itself. At what point do you stop trying to save the Titanic and start drawing plans for the Titanic II?

Dudewitbow ,

its why you choose your battles, some are much more reasonable than others.

for instamce the battle for Sony trying to get pc players to buy consoles to play the sequel i already know the outcome and is a pointless fight, as a majority of PC players arent going to buy a console to play a sequel of a title that they liked. people didnt rush to go out and buy a ps5 to play god of war ragnarok, nor FF16, nor FF7 rebirth, nor cave to play Ghost of Tsushima, nor Horizon Forbidden West.

the situation with Sony login requirement is definitely something that is challengeable and not a lost cause.

Audrey0nne ,

Not every drop of orange juice is worth the squeeze.

You’re right. But it’s not a question of buying consoles, it’s a matter of creating a free account. The majority of people have been conditioned to do so all their lives they won’t question another. If you really want to make a difference choose better battles, how about going after the system that allowed this problem to exist in the first place instead of getting caught up trying to put out the symptoms.

saddlebag , in God of War Ragnarok will require a PSN account

There’s a fair amount of sailor talk around here. Any captains manage to get their booty to run on Linux? I tried ff7 remake to no avail

domi ,
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Of course! If it has an installer, run it through Bottles first.

  • Mount the ISO file in KDE/GNOME
  • Create a new bottle in Bottles
  • Open the bottle and select the executable on the mounted ISO to start
  • When choosing an install directory, install to the Z: drive if possible so you don’t have to look for the files in your Bottles prefix
  • Follow the installer normally

Once done, you can either start the game directly in Bottles or create a non-Steam shortcut in Steam and select the exe of the game you just installed.

I prefer running it through Steam because then I always have access to the latest Proton versions.

Didn’t try FF7 but played Alan Wake 2 like this.

helenslunch ,
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Mm-hmm, I know some of these words…

Gebruikersnaam , (edited )
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I’ve also noticed that for some repacks it is better to use a different runner to install and then switch to a gaming runner for running the game.

edit: kron4ek specifically

Sunny ,
fossilesque , in PlayStation's CEO drastically underestimates the Steam crowd's patience, thinks PC gamers will buy a PS5 for exclusive sequels
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