“There were Romulans—there was a whole thing. The idea was that Guinan’s bar was presented as a normal bar in Los Angeles, but if you knew the right thing to do, you could go into the back through the telephone phone booth and that was Rick’s Café and it was a stopping point for all these different species that were actually there on Earth with a ‘Do not interfere’ thing happening. So you had a lot more Star Trek happening in the backdrop of it. Ultimately, the powers that be at that time were like, ‘This is too much.’ But there were some really good ideas there that were pretty cool.”
On the one hand, Star Trek being called “too Star Trek” is moronic. On the other hand, that is cliched as hell.
I still didn’t like season 2, but I don’t think that would have been an improvement. Pre-First Contact Earth has way too many aliens on it as it is.
Went to the page, read about it, and then to the Modiphius page to buy the book where it estimated shipping at $37 for untracked US Post Office?? For a single book? The shipping is almost as much as the book. Speaking of Star Trek, what kind of parallel universe did I wake up in? That is insane!
I have emailed my local gamestore to see if he is going to pick up copies. I will get it from him if he picks some up. He has the Star Trek Adventure RPG books, so I am guessing he can add this to his next order.
Yeah, shipping is insane especially if you don’t live in the US or the UK. If you have a local game store or one relatively nearby, it might be better to order from there. I bought most of mine from a local store and it was cheaper than the price on Modiphius’ US site and no shipping charge because I could go pick it up.
If you’re open to slightly less canon sources, there was a Voyager novel “Homecoming”, which pretty much covers this scenario. It’s generally positively received. Might help “scratch that itch” a bit?
I just finished my rewatch of Voyager and re-read both Homecoming and The Farther Shore, so I can weigh in here.
Respectfully, both books were traaaash. The author, Christie Golden, got almost all of the characterizations wrong - none of the characters sounded or behaved like the people I’d spent 7 seasons watching. The plot is beyond stupid, the main villain is laughably one-dimensional, her motivation was super thin and the motivations of her cronies were totally absent, our heroes are pretty dumb (like, really dumb), B’Elanna is off on some totally unrelated (and pretty pointless) quest, and the novels were full of typos, inconsistencies, and just generally careless writing. It very much read like a teenager’s underdeveloped fanfic. And it’s one story told over two books - the first ends in a pretty predictable cliffhanger, meaning that you have to buy both books if you actually want to read a complete story.
Seriously, if you want a laugh, go check out the one-star reviews on Amazon or GoodReads.
Not positively received. Actually quite the opposite.
I bought it in hardcover, then bailed on the entire Christie Golden Voyager series on the sequel.
A horrible return with heartbreaking situations for just about every beloved character.
I don’t truly blame tie-in writer Golden, or even Peter David who got tagged with responsibility for the most egregious plot and character point in the Relaunch universe version of the Voyager follow-up.
Paramount itself clearly had but dire restrictions on positives for the returning crew that only came off when Kirsten Beyer was allowed to undo the damage in her Voyager Full Circle series when she took the helm from Golden.
Well, apparently they were really close to doing an actual crossover with Doctor Who but it never happened. I could see this episode being a reworked script of that crossover episode.
I don’t know… taking the “Star” out of Star Trek, especially in the 60s might not have been that great.
I recall enjoying his appearance in the Eugenics Wars novels, but either aging or COVID has done a number on my brain and I can’t remember any specifics about him or the books…
I don’t know about that. It was the era of shows like Mission: Impossible and The Avengers. Plus, James Bond was in the theaters. It was that plus sci-fi.
It just seems so similar in retrospect! I guess a lot of scifi shows back then had devices that looked like the science fiction version of magic wands.
Picard S3 all but birthed it, it felt like a meaningful set-up and passing of the baton, after bringing seven back into the federation fold and now as a captain (news delivered by Tuvoc). The writers and such were also wanting it to be a thing
I would love to see a remake of The Questor Tapes, one of Roddenberry’s pilots that never got picked up. It was about an android trying to find his creator. There was a very stupid scene in it that was made stupid by network executives- Questor had to get information from a woman. Originally, she only agreed to give it if he had sex with her (which Roddenberry said would have been suggested tastefully). They changed it to being friends with her.
Great question! I would have really enjoyed it. I don’t think it’s really all that much of a Doctor Who ripoff because Gary was still human and I believe he was operating under orders. The concept of Isis was great and we’d get to see Terri Garr in a weekly show!
I wouldn’t mind if it only had that one link to Star Trek either. I don’t think every Star Trek spinoff needs to be about Starfleet, the Federation or any of that. It can be a springboard for all kinds of stories in all kinds of places and times.
She is indeed. She was also in an episode of The Monkees, she was in Close Encounters of the Third Kind and she was in my favorite Scorsese film, After Hours.
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