“There were Romulans—there was a whole thing. The idea was that Guinan’s bar was presented as a normal bar in Los Angeles, but if you knew the right thing to do, you could go into the back through the telephone phone booth and that was Rick’s Café and it was a stopping point for all these different species that were actually there on Earth with a ‘Do not interfere’ thing happening. So you had a lot more Star Trek happening in the backdrop of it. Ultimately, the powers that be at that time were like, ‘This is too much.’ But there were some really good ideas there that were pretty cool.”
On the one hand, Star Trek being called “too Star Trek” is moronic. On the other hand, that is cliched as hell.
I still didn’t like season 2, but I don’t think that would have been an improvement. Pre-First Contact Earth has way too many aliens on it as it is.
Well, apparently they were really close to doing an actual crossover with Doctor Who but it never happened. I could see this episode being a reworked script of that crossover episode.
I would love to see a remake of The Questor Tapes, one of Roddenberry’s pilots that never got picked up. It was about an android trying to find his creator. There was a very stupid scene in it that was made stupid by network executives- Questor had to get information from a woman. Originally, she only agreed to give it if he had sex with her (which Roddenberry said would have been suggested tastefully). They changed it to being friends with her.
I totally don’t remember this, but it’s on Memory Alpha:
In 2024, during his encounter with the watcher Tallinn, who also described herself as a supervisor, Jean-Luc Picard recalled how “Kirk’s Enterprise crossed paths” with Gary Seven. Picard explained that Seven, like Tallinn, “was recruited by superior beings as an agent who would, in [her] words, protect the tapestry of history.”
Great question! I would have really enjoyed it. I don’t think it’s really all that much of a Doctor Who ripoff because Gary was still human and I believe he was operating under orders. The concept of Isis was great and we’d get to see Terri Garr in a weekly show!
I wouldn’t mind if it only had that one link to Star Trek either. I don’t think every Star Trek spinoff needs to be about Starfleet, the Federation or any of that. It can be a springboard for all kinds of stories in all kinds of places and times.
She is indeed. She was also in an episode of The Monkees, she was in Close Encounters of the Third Kind and she was in my favorite Scorsese film, After Hours.
It just seems so similar in retrospect! I guess a lot of scifi shows back then had devices that looked like the science fiction version of magic wands.
I don’t know… taking the “Star” out of Star Trek, especially in the 60s might not have been that great.
I recall enjoying his appearance in the Eugenics Wars novels, but either aging or COVID has done a number on my brain and I can’t remember any specifics about him or the books…
I don’t know about that. It was the era of shows like Mission: Impossible and The Avengers. Plus, James Bond was in the theaters. It was that plus sci-fi.
I dunno, I’m not that bothered by this. I liked season 3 of Picard but it is still overrated. It was better than the trash that was seasons 1 and 2, but it was ultimately a nostalgia fest and also a silly plot, and not really very star trek. The big step up was a return to characterisation - I get that people like that, but when you look at the plot it’s just silly.
The world created is too dark, statfleet too militaristic, and they shat on the utopian outlook of the TNG. I think Seven would make an interesting captain, but they killed off the interesting characters (like captain shaw and the vulcan character who was pointlessly executed) and kept poor characters like Picard son.
I like strange new worlds, it’s great. I can see Legacy could be good in the right hands, but I’m not sold on the premise shoe horned in to the end of Picard or the characters left. Ed Speelers certainly isn’t up to it frankly. And Picard could have been good show but overall was poor - it’s more than the concept; you need a good story and Picards weren’t good stories.
From Paramount point of view, do they need another SNW at the moment? Probably not.
Bummer. But given that streaming services in general don’t seem to be doing that great and that paramount was just actively seeking to be bought or merged or whatever, it really doesn’t surprise me that they aren’t going out of their way right now to make new and likely expensive trek shows beyond what they are already working on.
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