You know, there are some words I’ve known since I was a schoolboy: “With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.” Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie, as wisdom and warning. The first time any man’s freedom is trodden on, we’re all damaged.
I had to decide between the Kovich line and this one. Both are stuck in my head and I can so easily quote. This is just so damn good. Not to mention truthful
Roddenberry gave conflicting direction on this. By the time TNG rolled out, his position was that most of the crew were officers.
But it was a long and confusing evolution. After intervention by the network after the TOS pilot, turned Janice Rand’s yeoman role, which is one of the most senior NCO roles on a naval ship, into what seemed to be a personal secretary. NBC was no more ready for a senior NCO who was a woman than they had been to have a female first officer Number One.
Discovery makes things murkier by mixing in ‘Chiefs’ as a title for department heads but never actually saying who is chief medical officer or chief engineer.
Lower Decks seems to have ensigns being hazed with junior enlisted tasks. However, Prodigy has introduced warrant officers as another career pathway outside the Academy.
Janice Rand’s yeoman role, which is one of the most senior NCO roles on a naval ship, into what seemed to be a personal secretary.
A yeoman is a person who does administrative and clerical work in the modern Navy. They run the gamut from E-4 to E-9. That’s low enlisted rank to the highest. Rand could be an E-9 Master Chief Petty Officer Yeoman for all we know. That would make her the appropriate rank to be the captain’s administrative assistant.
Just to say the way the role is presented kn television doesn’t highlight the sensitive roles such as being the senior NCO responsible for oversight of enlisted personnel performance evaluations or communications with command.
It would be very senior AO role on a capital ship, but she mainly comes by to get the captain to sign stuff.
I don’t know that I trust a “spoiler-free review” to not spoil it to the point that I will be annoyed about some reveal or other, so I won’t be watching, but that’s a good sign!
Sean Ferrick is usually pretty good about that. I haven’t seen the entire thing yet but there haven’t been any spoilers from the episodes themselves but they do talk about stuff that’s been previously announced whether through press releases, interviews, trailers, set photos, etc.
After looking for a while I couldn’t find anything significant. My guess is that it might just be a subtle throwback that the writers made in order to make us winder this very thing.
I did read this on Reddit (don’t worry, I took a shower afterwards):
The real reason is the charming one- namely that Gene Roddenberry had a friend (a radioman, as I recall) during WWII named Kim Noonien Wanh. Gene lost contact with his friend and apparently had some hope that tossing the name in there would draw the ear to a television and maybe he’d find him again.
It was Korea, not WW2, but the rest is kind of sweet.
I don’t even think their goals are as linked as you think,and neither were so altruistic— I believe you’re mistakingly correlating them retrospectively, whereas, in their own times and goals, their actions were notably different. And the first thing you need to understand is that neither of these guys wanted anything but to serve their own interests first. Bettering humanity - let alone anyone else - was hardly on either’s mind— ever.
They were only ever serving themselves and their own desire for power and conquest. When they failed and lost the Eugenics Wars, they fled to space in their cryoships.
We can only speculate what happened to the descendants of Arik Soong between the 22nd century and the 24th.
The Constitution class is supposed to be significantly smaller than the Galaxy class, so that makes sense. And obviously, DS9 is huge since it can handle multiple ships even larger than Galaxy class ships.
DS9 is such a funny escalation too. The station is just gigantic, since the D can easily dock at it while only using one of its (eight?) capital berths. But how much of it do we ever see? Private quarters, offices, some cargo holds. The Prominade should be the largest set we encounter but it barely seems larger or more impressive than a suburban shopping mall.
Something like Mass Effect’s Citadel is how I image DS9 should really look on the inside, and even that’s probably underselling it given these dimensions!
When you look at TOS as basically a submarine show in space (Roddenberry being a navy man and all), the original scale makes a lot of sense.
My take was that much of DS9 was unused. It was originally both an ore refing facility and a military base. After the federation took over there was basically no use for much of the ore refing facility. There must have been large storerooms for both raw and processed ore. Along with large ore handling systems to move bulk ore.
I bet its ability to dock multiple capital ships was probably adapted from being able to dock large bulk cargo ships for the ore. Think about it like current bulk material handling terminals for ocean going cargo ships. They are vast areas with relatively few people working at them.
Additionally I would assume that there were military brackets that were unused. I think it is a safe bet that the Cardassians had a much larger military presence there. Just think of how easily it absorbed the additional personal need to operate as the in theater HQ during the Dominion War. It was able to have a Federation, Klingon and Romulan General Staff along with some kind of unified command. While also serving as a place for RR and ship repair.
And now that I typed this all out, I realized I really need to find something better to do with my life. 😂
It’s like a giant flying hotel in my mind. I love how much focus there was in TNG on all the living quarters and families on the ship, because it emphasizes the fact that they’re on a mission of exploration, not war.
You can ask whether or not the D was too big, but the fact of the matter is that the D was as big or small as the plot needed it to be, even if it went against previous episodes. In some episodes it was a vast ship full of a maze of corridors. In others, it was a ten second walk from the bridge to engineering.
He talks a lot, but really, it’s just a lot of filler.
12 minutes of slow talking and he has three main arguments.
1: It’s a lot bigger than the original enterprise.
2: It had a lot of modeled details that went unused.
3: It would have been so big, that there would have been a lot of stresses on the hull during acceleration.
Those arguments are pretty weak. They had to design the ship before the first episode, so they would have had no idea what would be needed for a long running show, if they didn’t put a lot of details into the ship, the writers wouldn’t have options. They didn’t know if the budget would allow for a bigger engineering set, or a captains yacht set, etc.
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