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EdanGrey ,

It must only be in some places because where I live in the UK both parts change pronunciation.

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

How come it’s Germans and not Germen

tilefan ,

nah i say wuh-man and wih-min

tigeruppercut ,

I remember a discussion on reddit saying there was a US dialect (perhaps PNW?) that changed the pronunciation of the -man/-men part of the word rather than the o, but I couldn’t get many further details at the time.

Anyone heard anything about this?

dustyData ,

As someone who learned English as a second language. Yes, that pronunciation exists, I’ve heard it used on films. I don’t know if it is a formally defined or linguistically studied thing. But I can hear the different ways the exact same word is vocalized wildly different by different native English speakers. And they always claim theirs is the only correct way of saying it, even though they still somehow understood what was said.

1371113 ,

I know when I pronounce it, it’s different on the a/e - NZ English.

BlueEther ,
@BlueEther@no.lastname.nz avatar

We do also tend to change the o at the same time, at least I do. Although I spent 10 years in the uk in my 20’s so that has had some effect on how I speak.

grozzle ,

it’s normal for unstressed short vowels in English to all come out as a “schwa”, which the most common phoneme of the language.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_central_vowel

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Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

What kind of weirdo says chick-uhn?

dhhyfddehhfyy4673 ,

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expatriado ,

English phonetics suck more than any other language ever spoke or tried to learn

clockwork_octopus ,

That’s cuz English is a bully that beats up all the other languages and steals their words

Draghetta ,

Nah fam… the leader took the lead, then he lead while wearing lead. This is pure English, no loanwords.

Mr_Fish ,

Yes, English can be weird. It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though.

TheTechnician27 ,
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world avatar

It’s strangely kind of either/or for the pronunciation if you take a look at the IPA pronunciation of the words.

I wonder, though, if this lack of difference in pronunciation is behind a question that’s confounded me for years: “why do so many people spell the singular as ‘women’ by accident (e.g. ‘a women’), but I’ve never seen something like ‘a men’)?” I always chalked it up to “a men” looking weird as basically “amen”, but this could be it instead.

ccunning ,

Except by your own pronunciation guide:

w(uh)man to w(ih)men

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

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Iamsqueegee ,

That’s a darn good shower thought.

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