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Cadeillac ,
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Are you trying to start a fight war?

VanHalbgott OP ,

No, just an open discussion.

FreeLikeGNU ,

Some kinda battle fight war conflict.

NoIWontPickAName ,

FF7 has 0 bullshit water temples

SkyNTP ,

… and so is thus inferior.

suburban_hillbilly ,

I guess they’re tied on that front.

Shirasho ,

Water Temple itself was not bad. What was bad was having to pause to switch boots. There are mods nowadays to allow equipping boots to the d-pad and it makes the temple much more fun.

Albbi ,

There is a bullshit under water superboss though.

Omegamanthethird ,
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I’m a huge Final Fantasy fan. Ocarina of Time is the better game.

epyon22 ,

It’s really gameplay vs story. Ott heavy on game play where ff7 can be like reading a book. nothing really revolutionary about its game play some beautiful backgrounds and a deep storyline. Ott has some seriously revolutionary 3d interactions.

Omegamanthethird ,
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I didn’t love 7’s story. There’s a bunch of fluff with every side-character having their own mini-story. The amnesia plot line in particular was annoying.

I generally like the whole lifestream stuff. But I think the whole story is pretty mid compared to the storylines of other Final Fantasy games.

jj4211 ,

Agreed, as a game, as in fun, ff7 wasn’t very good. That music, those visual designs (the pre rendered stuff), and the story (though it suffered from bad localization) were compelling. But random encounters, fights filled with mostly waiting to be able to do things, the best attacks doing too much spectacle which was nice the first time, but pretty boring on repetition… The materia management became frustrating as you got more party members and no way to arrange or search, even with in game dialog mentioning how it was a pain…

Chrono Cross actually had significantly better game design, with enemies on screen and no standing around waiting for some characters turn to come up before anything would happen. Wish ff7 had clipped the “no action allowed by either side” time and that would have helped immensely. Then it just becomes a matter of if the player prefers real time adventure to menu driven play.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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FF9 was better than 7.

I know, you guys hate me now.

VanHalbgott OP ,

I hadn’t played that one yet.

ytsedude ,

If you can, I would like to recommend that you do.

VanHalbgott OP ,

I don’t.

flicker ,

I’m here to add my opinion that FF9 is superior to FF7.

In general, I prefer when your characters have set classes. It feels like it lets the characters have more fleshed-out personalities.

Without spoiling anything, it allows you to tell story through the medium. Have a character who spent his whole life in one class, relying on specific skills, and he maybe goes through a huge fight to signify that he’s changed for the better? Congrats. You have a class change! Now you’re a level nothing!

Maybe someone traumatizes a caster, and now they can’t concentrate, giving them a chance to fail their spells!

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Every Final Fantasy I have beaten has been better than 7.

TachyonTele ,

I like 4,5, 9, and 12 all more than 7 as an adult.

But 7 was a cultural phenomenon, and it devoured my teenage imagination when it came out.

Omegamanthethird ,
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When I was a kid, I didn’t really get into RPGs until after 7 was already out. I got into Arc the Lad, Jade Cocoon, and FF8 on the PS1. When I tried to go back and play FF7, it looked so ugly, I had a hard time connecting with it.

As an adult, the story and mini-games were frustrating. The obsession with the game is annoying as well. Although it’s undeniable the impact it has had on gaming.

For the record, I’ve beaten 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 13-2, 15, 16, Crisis Core, Dissidia, Dissidia 012, Theatrhythm Final Bar Line

TachyonTele ,

Yeah that’s basically my story, but you’ve beaten more than I have.

Kolanaki ,
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Have you not beaten 7?

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, I didn’t realize what I said was actually a paradox. lol, I’ll reword.

FF7 is the worst Final Fantasy that I’ve beaten.

Kolanaki ,
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Well now I need to know if you’ve beaten 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, or 15. Because how can any of those be better than 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1?

(God damn there are too many of these games 😬)

Omegamanthethird ,
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Copied from another comment of mine, I have beaten 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 13-2, 15, 16, Crisis Core, Dissidia, Dissidia 012, Theatrhythm Final Bar Line.

My top 3 are X, VIII, and XII in that order.

Lost_My_Mind ,

You have no future in politics.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Thank fuck for that

Walican132 ,

9 is one of the two I haven’t played yet.

AlecSadler ,

Any reasons why? Seriously asking because I had a hell of a time getting into FF9 for some reason, to the point where I actually never finished it.

I’m leagues older now and, hey, maybe I can go back and appreciate it differently…who knows.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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I played it a very long time ago, so I don’t remember specifics, but I generally just liked the story and characters better.

Omegamanthethird ,
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I love a lot about IX. However the combat is much slower than the other games. IIRC, an attack has to complete entirely and the character returns before the next character goes. While in VIII, the next queued attacker starts moving before the last one finishes their movements. Additionally, IX has 4 characters in battle. If you’re bring strategic, it can be very slow moving. Also, every boss has a valuable steal, but chances of stealing it are low. So if you take the bait, you will spend a lot of time repeatedly trying to steal. Also, your abilities are tied to your equipment unless you grind out enough points to unlock them, meaning you either keep bad equipment, upgrade and abandon abilities, or grind until the abilities are unlocked.

Also, the chibi-style art isn’t for everyone. I had more issues with 7’s style. But it’s a preference.

Apeman42 ,
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Comrade! There are DOZENS of us!

Angry_Autist ,

Mechanics: FF7

Atmosphere: Ocarina

Storyline: FF7

Aged well: Ocarina

9point6 ,

Agree. And now for a room splitter:

Music: FF7

Ffkhrocks ,
SmpleMndedCync ,

This one gets it

bibliotectress ,

I love the music for both and both games were part of my teen life, and I replayed Ocarina of Time a lot more… but I agree with FF7. Nobuo Uematsu is incomparable.

Shirasho ,

I would switch mechanics and atmosphere myself, but I agree overall that it is 2-2. Both are good for different reasons and they weirdly do not overlap on any of them with the exception of music which both were only slightly above average. With that said the OoT soundtrack is much more memorable. There is only a single FF7 track that I actually remember well.

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