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UncommonBagOfLoot , in I hate API like this

Wait, do you know if this still happens?

I have a ticket in our backlog to investigate similar issue with Teams Webhook reporting success but not posting anything.

None of us wanted to look at it so been in our backlog for a whilr

callmepk OP ,
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Since it’s been months, I haven’t checked… Will possibly take a look later

callmepk OP ,
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Yep, this still happens

bane_killgrind ,

There’s a video somewhere by someone… Returning a blank document instead of an error code is sometimes a QoS decision. Clients won’t make a new request without the user intervention, so whatever resource that’s bottlenecked has time to catch up

sjatar , in this comic is dear to my heart
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scp999 <3

jagoan , in I hate API like this

Yeah, typical on .net too. I just have a middleware and turn it into proper REST. Though all the error messages are usually like ‘something went wrong’.

madmaurice , in this comic is dear to my heart
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my code: Like this? does everything wrong

flauschke , in I hate API like this

nice plain text response 🤦

nave , in Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
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Walop , in I hate API like this

After working few years on a complex web application, I am starting to feel this style. Doing RESTful APIs for anything else than dead simple CRUD is pain.

masterspace ,

It’s similar to how I now often avoid throwing errors in my code, and instead return a ‘results’ object that could potentially have an error or a success. It often forces you to test and think about the non happy path more thoroughly.

Walop ,

Exceptions actually have a huge performance hit, you should only use them in a HALT EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY situations and never in anything that could be called repeatedly. We have refactored few of those to be 10-100 times faster by just returning success: false instead of throwing and catching exceptions.

daniskarma , in I hate API like this

Yes, but actually no.

barrage4u , in I hate API like this

It’s hard when you hit an endpoint that hits another endpoint, because technically the first request IS a 200. No right or wrong way as long as they are consistent and document it clearly imo

callmepk OP ,
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Now here is the fun part: they do not have a API documentation; they only have a very generic guide on how to setup webhook API

candyman337 ,
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Microsoft code docs are the literal worst

SpaceNoodle ,

I see you’ve never dealt with chip vendors

candyman337 ,
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Thankfully not

masterspace ,

Lmao, Microsoft code docs are absolutely amazing compared to the undocumented bullshit I have to deal with at most companies that have rolled their own services.

candyman337 ,
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Right but Microsoft isn’t most companies, it’s a SOFTWARE company. A multibillion dollar one at that. Compared to other even multimillion dollar companies, their docs are fucking atrocious

masterspace ,

Not my experience at all. What specific docs are you looking at?

Because the .NET documentation and their Azure documentation are some of the best docs I’ve used and come across. Azure’s doc certainly kick the crap out of GCP and AWS.

candyman337 ,
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candyman337 ,
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Their azure documentation is mostly surface level. They make all those docs like they’re talking to a user not a dev. They’re limited AF when you’re actually trying to deploy an app via a ci/cd pipeline

Microsoft365 docks have several articles that are fully depreciated and there is no disclaimer at the top about switching to new security standards or anything like that.

That’s just off the top of my head, but there have been plenty more I’ve had the displeasure of using

masterspace ,

Their azure documentation is mostly surface level. They make all those docs like they’re talking to a user not a dev. They’re limited AF when you’re actually trying to deploy an app via a ci/cd pipeline

Deploy to what? I’ve had no issues deploying to App Service from both Github actions and Azure pipelines and azure functions / static web apps were even easier.

LetsGOikz , (edited )

Shit, Microsoft docs are better than most other large companies with broadly used software even, not just random undocumented BS from smaller companies and products. In my experience, Microsoft’s Xamarin docs are somehow often a better guide for Android development than Google’s docs (good god are the official Android docs some of the hottest garbage that a company of Google’s size and talent could put out), and I’ve yet to find a better general reference for any language or library than Microsoft’s .NET documentation. I’ve seen a lot of people dunk on it for it’s verbosity and/or “example bloat” but I love the length of their docs for breaking down different use-cases and giving examples of each, along with potential misuses and recommended alternatives.

That said, they do still have some garbage docs (like what OP is pointing out), but my general experience with their docs, especially for their larger/more mainstream products, has been surprisingly positive.

vfsh ,

Microsoft docs in general are the worst. Can’t tell you how many fucking dead links and straight up incorrect information I’ve come across on their official help articles

candyman337 ,
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Or deprecated documentation that has no indicator whatsoever that it’s out of date

theory ,
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X-Forwarded?

barrage4u ,

Can / should you use it for anything other than IPs?

theory ,
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Well, if its acting as a proxy, then the status code should be transmitted intact right?

peter ,
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It’s not really a proxy, it’s just making another request as part of its request

scrubbles ,
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I my experience you then send a different error code to help developers know that right away. Really if there is nothing the developer could do it should be a 500 server error. The server did in fact error.

If the developer should have done something different then translate it to an appropriate code, 400 bad request or something

Atiran ,

In this case I like to return a 502.

MsPenguinette ,

Great time to implement a 7XX code: github.com/joho/7XX-rfc

739 might be a good one

Atiran ,

Nice! I’m definitely going to implement 787 at work.

Copio , in I hate API like this

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kr0n , in Ah, when we lose focus for a second and then we don't even known what our code was supposed to do
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Totally agree

kresten , in I hate API like this

Yeah, that’s a pain. I’m probably lucky to only have experienced this once.

needthosepylons , in Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
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Great one! :)

doppelgangmember , in Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

It’s coming from inside the house

doppelgangmember , in That does not look like a secure parking spot

Run far away

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