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Annoyed_Crabby ,

With misinformation about and how shit Google search is lately, it’s definitely a skill worth learning.

palordrolap ,

"I used to be able to Google like you, but then they changed what Google was and now what I can do doesn't work, and what you have to do seems weird and scary to me."

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

I used to google onions, because it was the style at the time

sukhmel ,

I used to be able to Google like you

…but then I got enshittification in the knee

Pistcow ,

For reals. I never bookmarked anything as I’d just regoogle what I was looking for but as of six months ago I can’t find shit. It’s like it never existed and all I get is spam websites that’s are skinned to looks genuine. I’m honestly going back to Askjeeves.com…

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Try DuckDuckGo - I believe its selling point is that it is not as bad as Bing.:-)

phdepressed ,

It’s Bing without tracking. And the things like quotation marks still work. However, baseline search using it has still gone to shit.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Did it used to be better? I rarely if ever used it before Google’s enshittification, but now I’m just happy to find streaming services whatever I need.

sukhmel ,

No, I’ve been using it for about 4 years or more, I think, and the search is stably kind of okay. Some time ago Google used to work when ddg failed, but…

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

It did, but Bing hiked their prices so it got shitty.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Oh, “it” meaning Bing then, not DDG. Although I thought Bing had always been free… shows what I “know”!:-P

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

If it is any consolation, a good chunk of those bookmarks would lead to deadlinks or domains bought by someone else.

QuazarOmega ,

wayback machine and bookmark, name a more iconic duo…

sukhmel ,

Until you stumble upon “we don’t have that page archived”, then the pain is real

lugal ,

Holy hell!

armchair_progamer ,

“I’ve got 10 years of googling experience”.

“Sorry, we only accept candidates with 12 years of googling experience”.

Mango ,

I have like 18 years experience googling boobies.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

Holy shit, this guy only Google searches with {google:baseURL}/search?udm=14&q=%s

Th4tGuyII ,
@Th4tGuyII@fedia.io avatar

To be fair you could call this "search optimisation" and the people on Linkedin would eat this up

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I might actually put this under my skills. I’m fairly good at googlefu.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Or prompt engineering.

nieceandtows ,

When I interviewed junior devs for my team, I had zero theoretical questions, and only two coding questions which were basically code that had to be debugged, and once it was running, for them to implement some minor things that I asked them to implement. I said I don’t mind if they googled, I only wanted them to share their screens while they worked, so that I can see how they worked and how they googled/adapted the answers to their code. I interviewed over a dozen people ranging from freshers to 4 yoe, and you should see how terrible they were at googling. Out of all them, only one fresher came close to being good in the interview. Even ‘4 yoe’ devs who ‘spearheaded’ various projects sucked at basic python and googling.

Aquila ,

I would 1000% become dumb as a rock with someone watching me not to mention in a high risk setting such as an interview

sheepishly ,

adding googling to my cv rn

pineapplelover ,

Might add Duckduckgoing or web searching

Evotech ,

Careful, HR npcs will not know wtf that is

QuazarOmega ,

But it sounds cooler when they don’t know what it’s about, right? Right??

xmunk ,

Just tell them it’s a strain of the VI virus.

nieceandtows ,

Can I Google myself in your office?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Prompt engineering is a better looking term these days.

jubilationtcornpone ,

“Prompt Engineering”: AKA explaining to Chat GPT why it’s wrong a dozen times before it spits out a useable (but still not completely correct) answer.

ByteOnBikes ,

That’s actually a valid skill to know when to tell the AI that it’s wrong.

A few months ago, I had to talk to my juniors to think critically about the shitty code that AI was generating. I was getting sick of clearly copy-pasted code from chatGPT and the junior not knowing what the fuck they were submitting to code review.

Evotech ,

Should start asking them like, why did you do this? Why did you chose this method? To make them sweat :p

sukhmel ,

That used to make sense when LLMs were not the thing, when evaluating assessments from students, half of which asked someone else and didn’t bother to even read the code

sukhmel ,

If there exists an answer, as gpt will tell you the answer exists till the very end, even when it’s not so

xmunk ,

Knowing when to cut your losses swallow your pride and ask for help is legitimately an incredibly important dev skill. I’ve met otherwise decent developers that could disappear in a hole for a month on a simple problem that anyone else on the team could help them work through in a few hours because they didn’t want to look dumb.

Aviandelight ,
@Aviandelight@mander.xyz avatar

I’m torn about this because I have good mentors but I genuinely want to try to learn how to code and not just have the answers given to me right away. At least I’m only working on volunteer project so being slow isn’t really holding anyone else up.

xmunk ,

Don’t be torn - solve it yourself until you can’t! It’s not helpful to be someone who constantly runs to other folks to fix their stuff and neither is it good to be someone who will just frustrate themselves struggling without progress.

If you’re a junior developer you will probably get time boxed tickets, just try and catch yourself if you’re spinning your wheels (and that isn’t easy, it takes practice).

As with most things in life balance is important, you don’t want to be at either extreme.

doubletwist ,

Not only is “Googling” one of my most important job skills, now that I’m doing professional services, my entire job basically consist of “Learn product ${FOO} faster than the customer’s employees can.” Which of course primarily consists of knowing what to search for, how to find it, and how to interpret and use what I find.

bleistift2 ,

So you’re that contractor that always shits out code that looks like the guy who wrote it was just learning the language?

CanadaPlus ,

Lucky guy. Tolerance for calling a spade a spade is a big green flag.

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