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Kojichan , in SCRUM: An Honest Ad
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I’m glad my company speaks a different language than English, and can’t use all the word soup completely. That said, my company is also wondering why my timesheets never add up to the entire day because always in meetings, scrum, or “can we jump on video chat for a sec because it’s easier to explain vocally than in writing”… And that “sec” turns into a 30 minute tutorial I have to give.

isVeryLoud ,

We translated the agile word soup to French here :(

Kojichan ,
@Kojichan@lemmy.world avatar

Ouch… My company speaks French as well. :( I get to hear the buzzwords in English.

My condolences, friend.

humbletightband , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life

Sounds so painful. We’re integrating AI right N now instead of doing what customers asked us to do or instead of fixing a ton of bugs we have.

I hate corporate

leds , in SCRUM: An Honest Ad

A bottle off rum for the morning standup?

FrostyCaveman ,

Take a shot anytime the non technical scrum master/product owner wants to “help” by trying to get someone else involved the moment you mention any kind of detail/problem/thing you’re working on

Sorry about the liver

onlinepersona ,

Might as well, it’d be as useful 🙄

Anti Commercial-AI license

excel , in SCRUM: An Honest Ad
@excel@lemmy.megumin.org avatar

And the only thing even worse than SCRUM is literally every other option

Dave ,
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And I think this video is talking about scrum implemented poorly. But admittedly that’s the only way I’ve seen it done 😐

bluGill ,

I'm able to get the good parts of scrum without all the overhead with kanban. Sprints are worthless, work doesn't align on a 2 week cadence anyway.

isVeryLoud ,

Sprints aren’t for you, it’s for the higher ups to have a digestible view of what’s going on in the team by presenting work done over 2-3 weeks, calibrating budgets, etc.

As a dev, yeah, sprints feel restrictive and artificial as fuck lol

RecallMadness ,

If you still do the sizing (it’s not entirely wasted as it’s a reasonably effective tool to gauge understanding across the team), This can still be done without the artificial time boxing.

“How much work have we done in the last two weeks?” Just look at all the stories closed in the last two weeks. Easy.

“When will X be delivered?” Look at X and all its dependencies, add up all the points, and guesstimate the time equivalence.

Kanban isn’t a free for all, you still need structure and some planning. But you take most of that away from the do-ers and let them do what they do best… do.

Valmond ,

I prefer V-cycle for when you have a software with known specs & Kanban for when you don’t really know what the client needs/wants. I mean those magic clients you hear about but never sees…

refalo , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life

ask the AI how to make the product better, duh

DaddleDew , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life

If you look back at the sci-fi movies that came out soon after lasers were invented, you could see that people had all sorts of crazy ideas of what a laser could be used to do and that a lot of them had absolutely no idea of what a laser really did. Ultimately, we’ve found out that most of those imagined uses were pure bullshit or extremely impractical, at least with the current state of the technology. It didn’t mean that the technology was useless. We ended up finding all sorts of useful purposes for it that they had never imagined, like disk players or barcode scanners. It only means that it took time for people to better understand what the real world applications of the new technology was and a lot of the initial assumptions were dead wrong.

AI is going through the same process. It will take time before the technology’s strengths and weaknesses are better understood by the masses so it can be better applied to more realistic uses. And for the commercialization of snake-oil applications for it remains confined to fringe markets.

bolexforsoup , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life

“AI” is great for first drafts/seeing a different wording, and automating very tedious crap. For instance, I really like taking proposals I write, dropping them into ChatGPT and saying “write me a 200 word executive summary,” then taking whatever it spits out to start making my own.

“Co-pilot” is a great way of thinking about it. I have no idea if that actual product is any good, but I know when I started thinking of AI tools as kind of a copilot of sorts, it made a lot more sense to me. It illustrates the limitations as well. Though I’d say more it’s more accurately “assistant to the pilot.” If you take me out of the seat, it can’t drive the vehicle and everyone will be upset with the results

Too many companies are falling for the loudest marketing in the room when it comes to AI. They see a shiny, perfectly curated demo and go “huh that seems neat we should do it” regardless of its relevance. They’re looking for shiny features and add-ons. What they should be thinking about is the very tedious, particularly manual tasks that eat up an inordinate amount of their time on a weekly basis. The AI solutions they should be looking for are ones that reduced or eliminate those tasks.

AI can be very useful at saving time. Too many people are using it as a solution in search of a problem. I think the best application for AI involve our day-to-day work, not consumer facing solutions.

ripcord ,
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Yeah on the “assistant” part. An actual copilot would be fully able to fly the plane.

BlackEco , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life
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Unfortunately improving existing products does not bring additional subscriptions / revenue 🤡

bolexforsoup ,

Line must go up

MajorHavoc , (edited )

Unfortunately improving existing products does not bring additional subscriptions / revenue 🤡

I mean, it technically does, just not by next quarterly report, which seems to be all some organizations are capable of caring about, lately.

ripcord ,
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Frequently it absolutely does. Just not in a gold rush kind of way which is what too many people want.

nullPointer , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life

making them better would mean more work, stress and ill conceived requirements for the programmers. I’m more in favor of marketing thrashing about on their own.

MajorHavoc ,

I’m more in favor of marketing thrashing about on their own.

Lol. Me too. But let’s not say that part too loud, it’ll be nice if they don’t catch on, for awhile longer.

pkill ,
snooggums , in Corporate America is Just Office Space in Real Life
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That is backwards.

Office Space was based on real life corporate America.

SpaceCadet ,
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It’s a documentary.

ripcord , (edited )
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Absolutely.

Source: I worked there, under a different name

baggachipz ,

I actually designed and produced an Initech mug from cafepress and used it in the office. People thought it was funny but I was dead serious.

jubilationtcornpone OP ,

Exactly.

Lexam , in I made this

Try all work done period. C suite “I made this”

ruckblack , in I made this

Which is fine with me tbh because fuck sales. I’d never survive independently, because I’d tell the customer the truth. And the truth doesn’t sell. I don’t have the energy to lie about how everything is better than it actually is.

Derp , in I made this

Except when a bug pops up somewhere. Ownership/Responsibility changes in sub-Planck-second time when assigning blame.

scrubbles OP ,
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In our head nothing ever was wrong, bugs only came along when you came along! You should have been able to build it in days, what’s so hard about this?

iAvicenna , (edited ) in I made this
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ah but they sometimes put a sticker on it or sth

Kissaki , in I made this

no no no, this is the wrong way around

because sales and marketing sell it before it even exists

scrubbles OP ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

truth. Why wait for a product at all? Just sell it now, then yell at your engineers for taking so damn long!

jubilationtcornpone ,

Sales: "Can we do this?

Dev: “No, we cannot.”

Sales: “Uhhhh… But I already told the customer we could.”

Dev: “That’s called lying. You lied to the customer.”

Sales: “…So you’ll have it done next week?”

Dev: “I’m going to need at least three weeks.”

Sales: “…But I already told the customer two weeks.”

Dev: Sigh

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