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FluffyPotato , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I have rotated between countless titles over several decades. What I do hasn’t really changed. Currently I’m not even aware what my official title is and when someone asks I usually say something along the lines of I make IT go but in my native language.

zarkanian , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hackerman

southernwolf , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

I’m not sure I understand, what’s wrong with this commit?

mexicancartel ,

1 change, forgot to enable the setting previously

Simon , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

Space wizard will do thanks

Amaltheamannen , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us

What am I looking at?

malloc , (edited )

Whoever committed this change thinks updating the text on the UI for this system will automagically fix issue.

It’s like editing the HTML on your bank’s website to show you have $1B in the bank 😂

Issue here committer forgot to update UI to expose the feature person was working on

victorz ,

I’m not convinced that’s it, but I don’t know enough to explain why.

Amaltheamannen ,

Yeah without more context it just seemed they were renaming the setting as part of a larger diff

Aatube OP ,

It says "1 changed file..." at the top

Aatube OP ,

No, the settings already existed, they just forgot to expose it

malloc ,

That makes sense now. Thanks for extra context.

Aatube OP ,

(Here's some more context: The button is in the UI, but it exposed a completely different function than advertised, probably due to being generated from copy-and-pasting the previous button)

crispy_kilt , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I make computers do useful things.

MajorHavoc ,

I make computers do useful things.

This exactly. Sometimes I also make the computer do what the client asked for.

Edit: And there was that one time the client asked for the computer to do something useful. But I think that was a fluke.

crispy_kilt , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

Serious question, not a native speaker: Why do people in the Anglosphere refer to mostly-software companies as tech companies, or to software developers as tech workers?

Simon ,

Because even in those companies many of the ‘computer people’ are not software developers. Tech workers is a catch all term for most people at those companies.

crispy_kilt ,

But the term isn’t used for technology outside of software companies, for example, mechanical and electrical engineering

Simon ,

There’s tech companies that don’t work with software

crispy_kilt ,

Such as?

Simon ,

Anything hardware related that doesn’t program in-house, by definition.

Nath ,
@Nath@aussie.zone avatar

Tech is short-hand for technology.
So, technology companies and technology workers.

emberwit ,

But the question was why

crispy_kilt ,

Thanks for responding but that wasn’t the question

Machinists / mechanical engineering are technology workers, so are civil engineers, electrical engineers, etc, but only software gets called “tech”

Croquette , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

Funny because HR doesn’t know either and its their job. In the US, you just need to slap engineer at the end and you are golden.

dgriffith , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us

You can stare at that code all afternoon but you won’t spot the bug until a microsecond after you hit “commit”.

RustyShackleford , (edited ) in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

Tech-priest.

Magos.

O, si es necesario, El Señor Arch-Magos.

Todos alaban al Santo Omnissiah, y así sucesivamente.

Patches ,

My email signature is “Via con dios”

RustyShackleford ,
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

Claro que sí, con gusto, y por supuesto.

“Via Vaya con dios”

Or… was that… the joke?

Potentially me:

Roldyclark ,

Dale?

RustyShackleford , (edited )
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

I can neither confirm nor deny.

ᵀᶦᵐᵉ ᶦˢ ᵃ ᶠˡᵃᵗ ᶜᶦʳᶜˡᵉ.

dylanTheDeveloper , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I got told the difference between a software developer and an engineer is that an engineer factors in a products lifecycle and scalability and communicates this to their team and client

Theharpyeagle ,

At our company, the person who specializes in that is dubbed Software Architect. Every dev is expected to uphold those values to a certain degree.

Forester , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
@Forester@yiffit.net avatar

Sorcerer of servers

ipkpjersi , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

It depends who I’m talking to and where I live. Where I live, engineer is a protected title and requires certification/etc so that takes it out of the race. That leaves the other options. Generally I am a Web Developer to people my age or younger, to people older than me I am usually a Computer Programmer but also sometimes a Developer or Software Developer instead. Realistically, I am a Full Stack Website Developer.

Referring to my job doesn’t get any easier even as someone in tech.

seth ,

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  • Scrollone ,

    Not only a certification, but in Italy you need to be registered to a register/bar and pay a yearly fee in order to be an engineer.

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    At least in civil, the reason is because the professional engineer (PE) stamps all plans and assumes responsibility for said plans by doing so. Plans cannot be built without a stamp. This is the case because someone has to be found liable if a bridge should kill people, and it shouldn’t be the technicians, designers or EITs under the PE, because they don’t make nearly as much. With great pay comes great liability.

    cole ,
    @cole@lemdro.id avatar

    Lives ARE on the line. It was faulty software that caused the Boeing 737 Max to crash twice, killing 346 people. Software runs your car, the trains, rockets, literally everything.

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    All engineers not just civil?

    kaffiene , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    I use software engineer but whatevs they’re all good.

    nickwitha_k , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    I’m a Senior Software Engineer, outside of countries where engineer is a protected title. I’m also a Beep-Boop Technician, Specialized Generalist (not Full-Stack since I have mostly succeeded in avoiding JS, until this afternoon), Problem Fixer, Technical Diplomat, Cat Herder (sometimes a tech lead), and The-Mean-Guy-That-Rejects-Commits-When-There-Are-API-Calls-Made-Without-TLS-Encryption-And-Hardcoded-Secrets (infosec likes me but always seems genuinely confused at a dev not fighting them).

    LifeOfChance ,

    I’m sorry, come again?

    nickwitha_k ,

    I’m a Senior Software Engineer, outside of countries where engineer is a protected title. I’m also a Beep-Boop Technician, Specialized Generalist (not Full-Stack since I have mostly succeeded in avoiding JS, until this afternoon), Problem Fixer, Technical Diplomat, Cat Herder (sometimes a tech lead), and The-Mean-Guy-That-Rejects-Commits-When-There-Are-API-Calls-Made-Without-TLS-Encryption-And-Hardcoded-Secrets (infosec likes me but always seems genuinely confused at a dev not fighting them).

    PmMeFrogMemes ,

    sounds like a cool job y’all hiring haha jk unless

    nickwitha_k ,

    Not on my team, unfortunately but, I’ll check. What languages/experience have you got?

    PmMeFrogMemes ,

    Oh man, I didn’t think that’d work haha… Kind of you to offer but I was recently promoted and wouldn’t feel right leaving now. Partially out of respect for my boss and partially because we are severely understaffed. But seriously, thanks for offering to ask around. Very generous of you to offer your help to a stranger ❤️

    nickwitha_k ,

    No worries. We’re all in this together <3

    Theharpyeagle ,

    I’m learning that I’m just enough of a front end dev to make a very ugly site. Navigating all the various CSS and JS frameworks feels like pulling teeth.

    nickwitha_k ,

    Having a familiarity is absolutely a great thing. The syntax isn’t alien, so, debug and guiding juniors through figuring out why their project isn’t working isn’t too terrible. The typing is probably what drives me crazy the most. It’s just bad and the standard library doesn’t seem to be equipped to handle every type that it can “support” cleanly.

    AA5B ,

    since I have mostly succeeded in avoiding JS, until this afternoon

    Sorry to hear that. I hit the same pothole about 6 months ago. I had been so fine with avoiding JS, but the guys building our admin console broke their build and couldn’t figure out how to fix it. Even worse, then I had to write up best practices for JS

    nickwitha_k ,

    Yeah. Fortunately, I didn’t have to do the programming. Unfortunately, I had to guide the debug. Happy to help people learn but the language, especially in its typing, is just awful.

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