It’s really not that hard v.v Caring to learn all’ the shenans, that’s the hard part. Same goes for Emacs. Archaic interfaces for the sake of archaism or “cool cred,” I say 🤷
I’ve found Ostranauts recently, and it’s really fun and I feel has some of the same vibes. Not even close to the same though, being able to program your own systems that you put together. I still sometimes think about what 0x10c could have been. I’ve considered doing something similar myself, but I haven’t gotten around to it. Maybe someday something similar will exist.
It would just be a bit funny since sensible keybindings was one of the reasons I originally switched. Turns out I had already used nano too long for me to actually want that feature hah.
Haha very true, if micro was the default, many people coming from common GUI apps would be like “okay, ctrl z to undo” and “ctrl s to save” “wow, it actually worked”
Def! I sort of wish the RFC committee would push standards for smart cross-platform shortcuts. Of course people with muscle memory in a different standard should be able to change for their usage, but even GUI apps like vscode, sublime text, IntelliJ, etc could benefit from standardization there
True, but one keyboard shortcut doesn’t make for an easy transition. Unless nano is has implemented or is planning on implementing on ctrl o,z,f,y,q etc
Vim user here. The only way to exit vim is to pray to the Vim gods and sacrifice your first born, hoping that they’ll cause a cosmic ray to hit the right spot in the memory to flip the right bit that causes it to exit. There are no alternatives.
I am non-serious, I just don’t like vim (or emacs; if I’m editing a text file in a terminal I want nano, or I append manually with pipes as Linus intended).
Most of my systems have X11 and some basic GUI text editor, my server is the exception that proves the rule. There is generally no actual reason to use Vim except liking Vim, or wanting to learn to like Vim.
For those that do like Vim, or want to learn it for historical reasons? Good on you, have fun.
The main reason for using (neo)vim is motions and text objects. Pretty cool to be able to type cxia, ]a, cxia to swap two function parameters in code. Or daf to delete a whole function.
Even just f to jump to a specific character later in the line, or t to jump up to that character are absolutely life changing.
I love love love editing HTML in neovim with the ability to do stuff like dst for “delete surrounding tag” or St<div class=“something”> to surround the current selection with a new tag. I have yet to find another editor that can do stuff like that with just a couple key presses.
These is one of the oldest Linux memes. No, they aren’t serious. I have a hard time believing anyone here doesn’t actually know how to exit vim properly.
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