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m3t00 , (edited ) in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

tried it up to when it asked to remember CC #s. not stupid https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/bf27df57-41b4-412c-af51-5fb57529c907.png

LwL ,

Ff has that feature too. It’s if anything more secure than remembering passwords because at least you still need the expiration date and cvc (unless edge saves that too).

m3t00 ,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

already using chrome for that. nothing but random passwords for about 300 sites. edge: import? no thanks dis chrome if you like. G has been good to me so far. was ff for a spell, got bloated

wooki , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Don’t worry Gill it will set itself back as default next Tuesday

Polar ,

I’ve never had that happen. Either the US version of Windows is fucked, or people are bullshitting hard.

bonn2 ,

I had it happen once after a windows update. What it has done is put a shortcut on my desktop enough times that I wrote a script to check for and delete them whenever it does.

chiliedogg ,

What is does do way too often is make itself my default PDF viewer. I’ve got Adobe Acrobat Pro and Bluebeam. I have zero reason to ever want to see a PDF in Edge.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I’m in the US and have never ran into half of the stuff people say MS forces on them on a daily basis.

HawlSera ,

Same

whofearsthenight ,

I think this has a lot to do with what license you bought. My old Win8 Pro key install has never had ads and shit pop back up or re-enable candy crush or whatever. One of our shitty laptops at work with a win10 home license I absolutely dread updating because there is some new bullshit nearly every time.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I’m on 11 home. :/

JokeDeity ,

I’m still on 10, but half the shit I see people complain about with Windows I’ve never experienced personally. Maybe I’m just lucky? Maybe I just read? I don’t know, but I’m not having the same experience as a lot of people on here.

Phen ,

In general any bad thing about windows that it manages to fixes still gets commented about online for several years after the fact. For example: BSODs stopped being a regular thing in windows user’s life very long ago, but it took another 10 years after that for people to stop making BSOD jokes online.

JokeDeity ,

Ironically enough, I actually did have my first blue screen in likely 5+ years yesterday. I was so shocked by it I wasn’t even mad, just impressed it’s been so long.

WashedOver ,
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

There was a while there where it would default to Edge for PDFs and as a web browser after a update. Quite annoying for a factory full of PCs that I wanted to use Chrome and Adobe Reader instead.

I tried Edge for a bit but stuck with chrome. Recently I’ve gone back to Firefox but I’ve not had one of those major updates yet that even tries to get me to log into Microsoft as a log in so it will be interesting when that happens again if Edge shows up as the default.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I have to use Acrobat for my job. If it opened it up in Edge every time instead, I’d go nuts.

Phen ,

From time to time when you update windows it’ll show you a welcoming setup again similar to the first time you logged in. In that process it will try to convince you to setup some Microsoft stuff on your pc, including changing default apps, but it shouldn’t do it on its own.

But sometimes it does. It happened once for me this year.

TheSambassador , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Edge started itself on boot after a recent Windows update. It even had a little pop-up about how “helpful” it was to have it start right when my computer turns on so I can “get to browsing” faster. It’s never been set as my default. Uhg.

zaph ,

Make sure you go into the settings and turn everything off. It’ll run in the background and do God knows what even though you’ve turned off startup.

Anticorp ,

And then on next update go turn it off again, since they’ll enable everything again. Rinse and repeat for eternity. Or switch to Linux and be done with their shenanigans.

normonator ,

If you sped through edge’s first launch wizard recently it’s now scraping your browsing data from other browsers.

zaph ,

Yeah I think they learned that from wavebrowser

CumBroth ,
@CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

Run this after every update, specifically the tweak that uninstalls Edge. Makes things a lot easier. It also gives you the option to delay feature updates by two years and only install security updates on time.

aubertlone , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Y’all I dislike forced browser adoption as much as the next guy.

And I’ve been using Firefox for years and years and years now.

But, I’m forced to use edge for work. And, as a browser purely, none of the anti-trust baggage attached…

It’s really not too bad. A lot of things work just fine. And sometimes, if I’m having weird performance on a website on a personal device, loading the same URL in edge has resulted in improved/expected functionality of the website

mnoom ,

with the amount of updates I think Edge is better than chrome now, but I still use firefox

soviettaters ,

I continue to use Firefox because I started using it a while ago and would rather not switch. I have to use Edge for school and it’s legitimately equal to Firefox in many ways. With Bing AI added, Edge blows Firefox out of the water.

PoolloverNathan ,

The only reason Bing AI only works on Edge is because Bing AI specifically checks for edge. There was an extension that made it work on Firefox by simply lying about the browser, but Microsoft DMCA’d the developer.

grumpyoldgit ,

Yes, when I have used Edge it’s been absolutely fine. Probably better than Chrome. I’d likely be quite happy to use it most of the time if it wasn’t for the fact that Microsoft are so intent on forcing me to do so.

I mostly use Vivaldi now which I think is by far the best of the Chromium-based browsers.

explodicle ,

IE was like that for a while too. Never again.

ILikeBoobies ,

Yeah the problem with memes like this is (according to market share) that there are people that switch from Edge to Chrome and think they are actually using a better product

PixxlMan ,

Edge isn’t terrible at all. That’s why it’s such a risk to browser diversity and competition

jack ,

Change your job

verdantbanana , (edited ) in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

edge uses half or less of the system resources versus firefox with twice as many tabs open even on linux

plus edge allows microsoft office to run on linux without workarounds

GhostMatter ,

For me, Firefox has better privacy and more powerful extensions, particularly variations of tree-style tabs.

original_ish_name ,

Just use chromium then

reddig33 , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Edge was a win when it first came out. It had its own rendering engine, was fast and svelte.

Now it’s just another bloated Chrome clone overstuffed with privacy-invading marketing features.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Same story every time. Something good turns into shit because they need to add marketing.

I’m shocked Microsoft hasnt fucked up VS Code yet. Someone much smarter than average is running that team at Microsoft.

SpeakinTelnet ,
@SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh now you’ve gone and jinxed it.

Toast ,

Nah the future for VS Code looks dark imo. They own VS Code, Github, NPM and Copilot and everything they touch turns into shit.

ricecake ,

It’s because they make their devtool money off of enterprise licensing costs, and they get those costs by getting developers to be okay using their devtools.
The tool is the advertisement for building software for Windows. If it gets too miserable to use the tools or build for the ecosystem, then some companies won’t prioritize windows software, and developers will prefer jobs doing something else. It’s got to be good enough so that decision makers at software companies don’t start hearing that windows software takes three quarters longer to develop.
Web developers are already targeting their browser as an afterthought, and mobile developers are pretty pulled into to apple ecosystem, since you can develop android apps on a Mac, but you can only use a Mac to make iPhone apps.

Without developers, applications lag, and they lose business and consumer market share, which costs them more developers.
Hence: visual studio is fine, and they keep adding azure features to GitHub and tying it all to visual studio.

ILikeBoobies ,

It turned bad because a bunch of users refused to use it because they remembered never updating past IE8 and made jokes about it lagging behind the competition

VS Code is the fucked up version of Code OSS

Damage , in D or d come on

Use zsh and press tab

BeanCounter ,

zsh is so much nicer to work with

killeronthecorner ,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

The only thing that annoys me is having to wrap wildcard expressions in quotes when using e.g. the find command.

But then it looks more correct, so it’s hard to argue with.

toynbee ,

You can escape the wildcards as an alternative.

killeronthecorner ,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

Nice, I didn’t know that. I habitually forget the closing quote so this might save me some ire

HurgletOfficial ,

Bloat

bdonvr ,

Just uninstall bash after

funkajunk ,
@funkajunk@lemm.ee avatar

Everyone’s playing checkers while my man’s playing chess

funkajunk ,
@funkajunk@lemm.ee avatar

Everyone’s playing checkers while my man’s playing chess

HurgletOfficial ,

No thanks, Ash/Dash is all I need

mojo ,

This. Except don’t use zsh because this is default in every single shell

chris ,
@chris@l.roofo.cc avatar

Nope. Bash (at least by default on Ubuntu) doesn’t have case insensitive tab completion.

PupBiru ,
@PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

afaik there’s options you can turn on that enable it

search .inputrc and set completion-ignore-case On

newIdentity ,

Still not a default. Also it’s not the same thing.

Damage ,

Bash never does this by default

mojo ,

Bash has never not had tab completion out of the box for me

Damage ,

Tab completion is default, but completing an uppercase word by typing a lowercase letter is not

aleq ,
@aleq@lemmy.world avatar

I remember having that when I used OhMyZsh, but after going back to a more bespoke config it doesn’t work anymore. Also tried using zsh as a different user to ignore my own configs, that doesn’t work either.

tldr, it’s not default zsh behavior.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It’s not default in zsh maybe, but it’s default in the oh-my-zsh config most people use.

I ran zsh for a while without that config and manually configured everything and it also works, but takes quite a bit of web searching to find all the knobs to turn.

aleq ,
@aleq@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think most people use oh-my-zsh. It’s very popular, and a lot of people use it, but I think most is a stretch.

Either way, it’s just a set of plugins and configs so of course you can get it to work on any setup. Just saying that it’s not inherent to zsh, and you can probably get similar behavior in most shells with a similar config.

Templa ,

I can’t relate to this issue at all exactly because I use zsh. Also a little bit related but the fuck

Vipsu , in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@Vipsu@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like good opportunity for US and Europe to whip out some fines over Anticompetitive practices. With Microsoft sort of being repeat offender the fines should reflect that.

Honestly with Edge being not too bad alternative for Chrome this sort of shady behavior from Microsoft doesn’t do it any good at least in my eyes.

simin , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

here i go…strangely enough i used edge for a while and did not switch back

PersnickityPenguin ,

I use it at work all the time and frankly, it’s completely functional. I also prefer the Bing image search over Google images search these days… And I was a hardcore googler back in the day!

max ,

Same. It worked great for me with the profiles (personal microsoft account + uni microsoft account) until my uni disabled the bookmark syncing feature for all our accounts. For some odd reason.
Then I switched to Firefox and I’m not turning back.

Double_A ,
@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I used and liked it for a few years, but now they started filling it with bloat ware again… switched to Firefox last month.

adespoton , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Well, I switched to Edge for work with the latest Chrome update (since internal apps were Chromium only), and was pleasantly surprised. It actually let me turn off almost all the junk, and is responsive in a way I haven’t seen in a Chromium browser in years.

Safari and Firefox for personal use though, and nothing compelling to make me change that.

Pyro ,

The performance is pretty on-par with other major browsers now, but it is the obscene amount of popups built into the browser that irritates me.

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

I use edge for work every day, what popups?

_MusicJunkie ,

Once you set it up it’s fine, but on first opening you have to click through a bunch of menus (no, I don’t want to share data, no I don’t want to sync my account, and so on). In other browsers it’s a small popup in the corner which you can ignore, and just google what you wanted to google. In edge they’re fullscreen and you have to click no on each one.

Probably a rather unique problem because I regularly set up new machines, most people just go through it once and never see it again.

stewie410 ,

May be worth building a default config to “install” for those setups; that’s saved me quite some time when configuring new/spare machines at work.

Pyro ,

You hit the nail right on its head! It’s pretty bad that there is no skip all option, and for some of them you have to manually uncheck before continuing.

I’m in the same situation as you where I often work on fresh virtual machines, and so I see this a lot too.

grff ,

Same I’m a developer who uses edge as my daily driver and once setup right I love it

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

I use arc on my mac and it’s nowhere near as nice as that, but I like the side tabs, the way it gets out of the way when I’m searching, and bing isn’t too bad; I’ve actually used it a few times. Once I found a customizable start page I haven’t looked back. Again, for work

nogooduser ,

There’s the shopping popup that tries to find better deals or vouchers for products you’re looking at. It’s easy to turn off though.

Searching the settings for “notification” does show others - a feature called Discover and sidebar apps seem to be able to send notifications but I’ve never seen either.

netchami ,

If you need to use Chromium, just use Ungoogled-Chromium or Brave. But Firefox/LibreWolf will always be superior.

odium ,

Same, I’m only allowed to use either Chrome or Edge on my work laptop, so I chose Edge.

Librewolf on my personal laptop and Firefox on mobile tho.

TheFriendlyArtificer ,

Bonus for Librewolf!

I love Firefox… But the listicle ads are seriously tacky and annoying. I do not want Pocket. And I do not want Pocket randomly re-enabled after a set of updates.

MaggiWuerze , (edited )

Maybe look at BromiteCromite? Open Source Chromium browser where you don’t need to disable anything

neme ,

Bromite has not been updated since January.

One of the old Bromite contributors forked it: github.com/uazo/cromite

MaggiWuerze ,

Yes, that one. Thanks for pointing it out

XpeeN ,

Mulch to

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

its based off of chromium, so one would expect it to be as fast as most modern browsers.

its the annoyances built on top of them, and user privacy that matters in a browser nowadays

M0ty , in Memory is overrated

That’s the whole point of documentation, to know how it works AFTER you forget it

sj_zero , in Memory is overrated

And after the 1000 page manual some fuck goes "oh, Bob never documents anything!"

cm0002 , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Fuck no, I’m not particularly a fan of how it forces itself on you like Brock Turner (the rapist).

It can go and join IE in whatever pit of hell we threw IE in

If you wanna say that Chrome is trash and people should use Firefox, Opera, Safari or whatever else is currently trending among privacy focused people that I can agree with (Even if I personally won’t make the switch)

But Edge is NOT the answer, Edge is NEVER the answer. At this point I’m starting to wonder if all these Edge people in here are being paid by MS

ElBarto ,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are some things from reddit I hope never come over here, but shitting on the rapist Brock Turner is always welcome in my books.

SnipingNinja ,

Welcome to the boat, I tried edge from all the people recommending it on reddit and I hate it

And the rapist analogy is not enough for how bad it is, it’ll copy everything from your default browser without your permission (or I somehow missed it)

Like I was caught by surprise when all my bookmarks, passwords, etc were just straight up copied by that privacy intruding piece of crap.

Fuck edge

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

Definitely missed it. It doesn’t grab everything without permission, but probably wants to stay out of the way so you do pull it all in

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Edge is probably my favourite chromium browser. Seems like you care too much.

robdor , in Schrödinger's date format

Just register on the day that matches the month.

zlatko ,

01.01.1970. Timestamp zero for the win.

Jakylla ,
@Jakylla@sh.itjust.works avatar

Error: Please enter your birthdate

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

the dev forgot that 0 !== undefined :D

BennyInc , in Schrödinger's date format

Luckily I’m born on 07/07/2007 — finally my superpower comes into play.

drbi ,

Are you agent 777?

Hupf ,

Jackpot, they call them.

clb92 ,

Already a better origin story than many other superheroes or supervillains.

Swarfega ,

Oh. I’m 7/7/79. If I was two years earlier…

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