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bnjmn , in classic configure neovim experience

I felt this šŸ˜¢

xnasero , in D or d come on

Op does not know about $CDPATH and tab completion keke

PennyJim ,
@PennyJim@lemmy.world avatar

Iā€™ve seen a number of comments imply the possibility of case insensitive tab completion. Is this real and how do I do it?

I have multiple times fumbled with forgetting to capitalize something, only for the terminal to ā€˜dunkā€™ at me

F04118F ,

Thereā€™s probably some way to add it in bash, but if you install zsh and use the default options for everything, it just works! I especially love zsh for things ā€œjust workā€: not just tab completion for directories but also having completion for tools like git, docker, kubectl, etc is super easy, and you donā€™t need any weird magic like in Bash if you want to use an alias with the same completion

bnjmn ,

Hmm, it didnā€™t ā€œjust workā€ for me. I had to set it up recently:

zstyle ā€˜:completion:*ā€™ matcher-list ā€˜ā€™ ā€˜m:{a-zA-Z}={A-Za-z}ā€™ ā€˜r:|=*ā€™ ā€˜l:|=* r:|=*ā€™

That line needs to go in .zshrc. Maybe itā€™s enabled by default with oh-my-zsh?

F04118F ,

Iā€™m sorry, that must be it, I immediately installed oh-my-zsh after switching to zsh

bnjmn ,

I tend to always install both of them together too! Which makes it a little hard to know where things are coming from. This time I decided to start from scratch, so certain aspects of the config are still salient in my mind

zlatko ,

For bash, this is enough:


<span style="color:#323232;"># Bash TAB-completition enhancements
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># Case-insensitive
</span><span style="color:#323232;">bind "set completion-ignore-case on"
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># Treat - and _ as equivalent in tab-compl
</span><span style="color:#323232;">bind "set completion-map-case on"
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># Expand options on the _first_ TAB press.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">bind "set show-all-if-ambiguous on"
</span>

If you also add e.g.CDPATH=~/Documents, it will also always autocomplete from your Documents no matter which directory youā€™re on.

PennyJim ,
@PennyJim@lemmy.world avatar

Setting CDPATH=:~/Documents/Dev makes navigating to any of my projects so much easier.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention

csm10495 ,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thanks kind stranger. Never knew of this.

zlatko ,

No problem!

As an aside, I see weā€™re bringing the strangers thing over from Reddit. I hope more of the fun and funny stuff gets over, I miss some of the light shitposting.

kattfisk ,

Well completion-ignore-case is enough to solve this particular problem, the other options are just sugar on top :)

Iā€™m going to add completion-prefix-display-length to these related bonus tips (I have it set to 9). This makes it a lot easier to compare files with long names in your tab completion.

For example if you have a folder with these files:

FoobarSystem-v20.69.11-CrashLog2022-12-22 FoobarSystem-v20.69.11.config FoobarSystem-v20.69.12 FoobarSystem-v20.69.12-CrashLog2023-10-02 FoobarSystem-v20.69.12.config FoobarSystem-v20.69.12.userprofiles

Just type vim TAB to see


<span style="color:#323232;"> ...1-CrashLog2022-12-22   ...1.config   ...2   ...2-CrashLog2023-10-02   ...2.config   ...2.userprofiles
</span><span style="color:#323232;">$vim FoobarSystem-v20.69.1
</span>

GNU Readline (which is what Bash uses for input) has a lot of options (e.g. making it behave like vim), and your settings are also used in any other programs that use it for their CLI which is a nice bonus. The config file is ~/.inputrc and youā€™d enable the above mentioned options like this


<span style="color:#323232;">$include /etc/inputrc
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">set completion-ignore-case on
</span><span style="color:#323232;">set show-all-if-ambiguous on
</span><span style="color:#323232;">set completion-map-case on
</span><span style="color:#323232;">set completion-prefix-display-length 9
</span>
mercury , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Windows put a full page ad for windows 11 before my computer started, Iā€™m never upgrading. Hope to God Linux gaming gets better by 2025

phuntis ,
@phuntis@sopuli.xyz avatar

linux gaming is basically there at this point proton can run most games flawlessly unless you wanna play games with hyper aggressive drm or anticheat it mostly ā€œjust worksā€

bleuthoot , (edited )
@bleuthoot@lemmy.world avatar

I still have many issues regarding VR games. Mostly related to the view being delayed from what I am actually doing, making me nauseous.

For me, thatā€™s one of the biggest issues holding me back from switching. I donā€™t want to bother to dual-boot OSes just for a few VR games.

phuntis ,
@phuntis@sopuli.xyz avatar

ah havenā€™t tried vr too expensive for me and not enough space really wanna try it in future though alyx and beat saber look really cool hopefully thatā€™ll improve soon with all the rumours of valves deckard headset and them dedicating so much to linux I mean deckard will probably still be tethered to a pc so itā€™s not a guarantee since most people will be on windows then but maybe itā€™ll come with improvements to vr on linux

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

As a linux noob, Iā€™d say it 90% there. I got a new computer recently, decided to only install linux to see if I could dump windows entirely, expecting to dualboot eventually. The only problems Iā€™ve had so far are Curseforge, MC realms, and One Shot. Iā€™ve got Modded Skyrim and modded Hollow Knight working, Iā€™m incredibly happy with linux gaming.

phuntis ,
@phuntis@sopuli.xyz avatar

yeah Iā€™m also quite a noob with linux Iā€™ve only been using it for about a year and also dual boot my pc for the few games I have to for me itā€™s actually bethesda games mostly due to no mod managers on linux and I know thereā€™s the workaround for MO2 which is what I use anyway but fomods didnā€™t work :/ Iā€™m also actually playing through hollow knight on my deck at the moment though vanilla and thatā€™s been working flawlessly as for curseforge dunno what youā€™re modding but if itā€™s mc I used prism launcher and that worked flawlessly way better than curseforge on even windows with that being full of bloat

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

Prism is life, I agree. My friends donā€™t, so I need a curseforge pack to distribute server updates with. The stupid part is curseforge has a working linux version, but it only does WoW.

The other one is playing on a realm. The desktop solution is supposed to be the Win10 version, but screw that. Iā€™d love to see a mod that lets java join bedrock servers, but they all run the other way. The solution is running the android version with a third-party launcher.

Jabbermuggel ,

As Phuntis said, curseforge is easily solved with prism launcher. They have a nice GUI to browse modpacks and set up everything automatically. For mods that donā€™t allow direct downloads over the API, they give you a browser link you can open and automatically pull the downloaded files from your download folder.

The launcher also has integration into modrinth and a bunch of other useful features. IMO the better launcher compared to the official one, even if you donā€™t play modded.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

Love Prism, love Modrinth, still canā€™t make modpack updates curseforge clients can use. Since everyone else on the server uses CF, I need to build the modpack on CF then import to Prism for myself.

I did see that making a CF modpack file might be possible soon though.

isles ,

Man, I just tried for a few weeks and just had no luck on the games I was trying. It maybe is there for most people, but I still ended up in the ā€œgoogle for commands that might resolve these weird crashes / errorsā€ and building random packages from source. However, I tried on a gaming laptop, which have notoriously had worse support than standard discrete cards. I wonder if my experience would have been different with a standard PC. I also recognize that Steam is the answer for a lot of people, but I just donā€™t have that many Steam games.

ILikeBoobies ,

What games/distro?

isles ,

I was on Mint and primarily using Lutris, but tried many different WINE runners. I would have tried Ubuntu, which I think is a little closer to upstream updates, but I only had a 4gb USB stick to install from. For games, I tried Horizon: Zero Dawn (which I finally got to open, but it was running 0-3 FPS), Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and Baldurā€™s Gate II (which seemed to work). Iā€™m not giving up forever, my next gaming tower will likely run linux of some type. I do lots of self-hosting on a Ubuntu PC, so Iā€™m pro-Linux. Just ran out of patience with the laptop!

IronTalon ,

Interesting. Got Horizon Zero Dawn to work out of the box myself but Iā€™m using Garuda. Any chance youā€™re using an nVidia GPU? They tend to be a lot more fussy with Linux than AMD

isles ,

Yep, sure enough nVidia 1650 laptop GPU. I tried the proprietary drivers, forced so many versions of VKD3D and DXVK to try for better performance. Oh well, my next box will have an AMD GPU.

lemmesay ,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I hope gaming on GNU/Linux were bad, so I wouldnā€™t have wasted hours of my life :')

ILikeBoobies , (edited )

It needs a larger user base before companies will make the native version for it

By not switching you play into a self fulfilling prophecy

MJBrune ,

In 2016 you had 2 or 3 AAA games releasing Linux native versions. Now you are lucky if you get a working proton version. Linux has moved backwards. Honestly I think people tried it and hit a lot of problems with it then left. 2016 was the year of the Linux desktop but it failed to capture the market.

One of the biggest problems with Linux is simply additional hard drives. If you fill up your / drive you are basically screwed of you donā€™t know how to use the command line. Even the easiest Linux distros suffer from this problem. With windows I just reinstall programs to a different drive. With Linux you have to learn about symlinks, create then in the right spot and even then it doesnā€™t help unless you have a bigger drive. Alternatively you can learn about lvm and combine your drives in to one large monolith but this is even far more work for whatā€™s itā€™s in Linux literally at worst a 10 minute fix and 0 second if you just install stuff to the right drives.

Cihta ,
@Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

Honest question - what is the current problem(s) in Linux gaming? And I donā€™t mean that the way it sounds, I just havenā€™t done it in a long long time. I mean back then it had to have a linux specific version and you had to deal with X11 mouse input.

Now with Wayland and things like steamdeck existing Iā€™m surprised itā€™s not more viable.

Iā€™m sure itā€™s a long list but what are the main factors? Just a curiosity. Unfortunately I just donā€™t get to play games these days. Still GPU and sound driver issues? Publishers refusing to take the extra steps to make a multi platform engine work on it? Too many unknowns based on flavor of Linux installed?

bitsplease ,

Iā€™m not the guy you asked but I can answer for myself - itā€™s still not nearly as effortless to use for gaming as windows. I work with computers all day, so when I sit down to game at night I absolutely refuse to debug shit. For Starfield as an example, it works via proton, but the protondb page is full of ā€œto get around X issue use the following workaroundā€, and I just canā€™t be bothered.

I use Linux for work and hobby software development, but for me to switch my gaming pc over would require it to not just be ā€œviableā€, but effortless

Cihta ,
@Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you, thatā€™s the perspective I was looking for.

And while i understand, itā€™s certainly not limited to games or Linux. I too just want things to work and itā€™s become a struggle for one reason or another. I can find a common thread on that but probably not the place for that.

I am optimistic though that gaming will continue to get better and that will be helpful. Despite all the faults itā€™s at least going in the right direction.

IronTalon ,

I will say this - nowadays I have to figure out maybe 5% of games I play on Linux, and often times those games have issues with certain windows setups too

Cihta ,
@Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

Thatā€™s actually pretty positive. Probably a multitude of reasons but in my very limited experience with recent games they are pushed out with tons of problems on any platform. Sometimes the game was just rushed out and this is what turned me off of games for the most part. ā€œItā€™s online, we can just patch it later!ā€

Also not a fan of paying for the privilege of being a beta tester. Open betas used to be fun times.

That said, based on yours and others replies i think it seems worth it to dig up an old ssd and try some of my games out on Linux on my main. Honestly it seems way better than what it was years ago so I should go see for myself. Thanks!

IronTalon ,

Absolutely. Itā€™s honestly the older titles that tend to work better as well, perfect for an older setup. A nice static target for the conversion layer. Proton was pretty good 3 years ago, now itā€™s amazing.

Lots of Devs Iā€™ve noticed tend to be happy to tweak things on their end to get something to work better with Proton as well, or if weā€™re lucky they just use Vulkan out of the gate and make it a very straightforward job.

A good benchmark is seeing how steam deck users get along with that game. If they donā€™t hit any snags itā€™s a very good chance you wonā€™t either

Cihta ,
@Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

Great info, thanks. Most of my hardware is old. But thatā€™s actually a good thing I think. I have a Lenovo ideacentre i plucked back from a friend as it was gathering dust. I upgraded the ram and SSD and installed neon on a whim and itā€™s amazing.

Thatā€™s what sorta started tracking me backā€¦ have continued using Linux for servers but i was impressed at that desktop. Now I know neon is a bit bleeding edge so any recommendations on a distro? I started with freebsd back in the day, then gentoo for desktop, then Ubuntu minimal for servers if that helps. Not afraid to get my hands dirty but prefer simplicity.

I found a 256GB SSD that should be enough for some testing. I need to grab some files off it but then itā€™s ready to go. Distro advice appreciated. Remember i just want to test :) TIA

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  • bitsplease ,

    Definitely more work to set things up the first time, though

    This is ultimately my point - looking through protondb, it looks like all the games I play today work, but a good few require some workarounds, hacks, or just have crashes reported while playing

    Gaming is my escape from my day job of working on software, fiddling with configs and whatnot is really the last thing I want to do when I have free time to play.

    Donā€™t get me wrong, Iā€™m stoked that gaming on Linux is improving so much, and I deeply look forward to the day that I can ditch Windows for good on my gaming PC, but for now its just the best tool for my requirements

    Gale ,

    Only reason I donā€™t switch to linux is because of both riot games and easy anti cheat(you can kinda play league of legends most of the time)

    but valorantā€™s vanguard is just straight up built for windows so you canā€™t cheat in their game, so you canā€™t even open that game in linux

    And 99% of games that use easy anti cheat are also unplayable (except elden ring somehow)

    Tbh I havenā€™t really played their any games that fall into this category lately, but I donā€™t want to have to install windows every time I get a urge to play league and tilt myself

    and I know that dual boot exists but I have a very limited storage right now (Iā€™m only on a 480gb ssd since my hdd broke)

    Cihta ,
    @Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

    An interesting pointā€¦ i didnā€™t even think about the anti-cheat engines nor considered theyā€™d be bound to windows but yeah i get it, i deal with that on licensing services.

    I feel your pain on storage. Itā€™s cheaper now but itā€™s all relative. Iā€™ll save your UN and hit you up if i stumble into something that may help.

    Barbarian ,
    @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

    A lot of EAC games work just fine on proton now. For any game released and/or updated since September 2021 enabling EAC on proton for the devs is as easy as ticking a checkbox.

    mercury ,

    My main issue is a lack of support from games like DCS, which will never get Linux support, and not having trackIR support, but I suppose that just needs someone who is experienced.

    Also I canā€™t play fortnite/cod and thatā€™s what my friends play.

    Cihta ,
    @Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

    Hah I had to look some of that up. I bet I could guess your age within a couple years. :)

    DCS seems like a cash grab and travkir thing seems quite the gimmick. But i understand you wanting to play with your friends and so do they and they arenā€™t going to bring Linux support despite itā€™s likely built on it.

    Windows is essentially free anyway these days so youā€™ll just have to suck it up for now. You can disable things like realtime scanning for a performance boost. If you canā€™t make your own DNS try quadr9 to block a majority of the telemetry and shit.

    Being able to play with your friends is more important really. Just dual boot or use a VM to get your nix skills. Iā€™m sure many wonā€™t agree with me and thatā€™s cool. There is nothing Linux canā€™t do, yet there are apps (or games) that will simply require windows to participate. Sucks, but thatā€™s reality.

    mercury ,

    U didnā€™t have to be so condescending lmao

    Cihta ,
    @Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry yo, wasnā€™t intended that way I promise! I donā€™t have great people skills text based or otherwise. And actually Iā€™m the one that sounds like an idiot anyway haha In my defense Iā€™m quite tired and seeking excuses to not be working so yeah, my bad, no offense intended

    mercury ,

    I get that for sure! Iā€™m also a bit uh, trigger-happy with people online. I definitely get that feeling, though.

    Cihta ,
    @Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

    Appreciate that but now I donā€™t know how to reply without sounding condescendingā€¦ dammit! :) but you know, if you go back to 1995 bad boys that was how i communicated. Years later i relocated and nearly got killed for pointing out a funny and quite justified slight at a certain NFL team.

    Iā€™m not sure I have a point beyond stay trigger happy and call fuckers like me out! We all make mistakes and I have no problem being called out.

    Shit, i still sound condescending donā€™t I? Itā€™s just hard not to after a while. I donā€™t know if itā€™ll be Linux worthy but hit me up if you decide to try out borderlands 4. Weā€™d be happy to have a new player in the group.

    mercury ,

    Nah, nah. I think it was just the ā€œI bet I can guess your ageā€ then the rest shifted in my mind. Sorry about the confusion

    Cihta ,
    @Cihta@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah I got youā€¦ that was a stupid thing to say. I never meant it like that. I mean hell at the end of the day you got me to look up a couple things.

    It was a good lesson. And Iā€™m usually banging heads with friends because they are judging and then i did it. Thanks for checking me.

    utopiah ,

    Genuinely no idea how Linux gaming could be better. Iā€™ve been playing on desktop and Steam Deck for years, both ā€œflatā€ games and VR games and it just works. Sure I donā€™t try literally everything but with ProtonDB Iā€™m confident it will work, or not, and decide accordingly. Obviously not all games work on Linux but definitely more quality games that I have time for. For me it just works, I spend at least 99% of my time gaming on Linux actually gaming, in fact I canā€™t even remember when is the last time I tinkered. I donā€™t even have problems with GPU drivers despite tinkering with containers with machine learning. Iā€™m not trying to say nobody has problems or dismiss problems people do have, just sharing my experience.

    YaBoyMax ,

    I think this is overselling it a little. I still run into issues with Proton from time to time that require sigkilling it and its children, and some games (especially EA titles) are finnicky and can take a few tries to launch properly.

    As for VR, SteamVR on Linux outright sucks. It virtually never works the first time I launch it and requires some combination of reconnecting hardware and restarting software and the computer, and itā€™s plagued with bugs (most recently the UI rendering upside down in the new beta).

    Donā€™t get me wrong, Linux has been my primary platform for some 5 years and my only one for the last few and Iā€™d never dream of going back to Windows, and gaming on Linux has progressed unbelievably in the time Iā€™ve been daily-driving it. But it still isnā€™t totally painless and thereā€™s definitely more room for improvement in the coming years.

    CeeBee ,

    Linux gaming is even better than Windows in many ways now

    mapleseedfall ,

    How so?

    CeeBee ,

    Well, Elden Ring had a bug in it that killed performance, Proton was able to fix it without touching the game itself and resulted in Linux performance being markedly better.

    Then with Starfield it performs about 30% faster than windows consistently.

    I can force AMD FSR on any game (and I have an Nvidia card) to get a significant performance boost with no visually detectable loss in quality.

    The list goes on.

    checksout ,

    My game still does not support proton. Fuck that game.

    Honytawk ,

    Linux is still only compatible with 10000 games on Steams 70000 games store.

    Windows is compatible with all of em.

    CeeBee ,

    Itā€™s 12,000 and those are rated as ā€œplayableā€. The majority of games on Steam would be playable out of the box, but Valve is being cautious with their verified program.

    ProtonDB has over 18,000 user submissions for playable games.

    There are many games in my library that arenā€™t listed as Steam Deck verified or even on ProtonDB and they just work.

    IronTalon ,

    I switched back in 2019. It was pretty good then and itā€™s almost seamless now. Hell EAC works now and I can play Squad without any hiccups

    mercury ,

    I am glad squad works, haha

    CanadaPlus , (edited ) in Harder Drive: Hard drives we didn't want or need

    Comments as I watch through:

    I want more information on the ionosphere-storage calculations. 175kB bandwidth is hella illegal (in my jurisdiction at least) for an amateur station, but if youā€™re ignoring laws you could get way more. 1MB seems entirely reasonable if you can use anything open enough on the whole shortwave spectrum.

    Yes, buddy, your ISP is totally throttling you. I think over a thousand individual recipients per second for hours is the definition of suspicious traffic. I guess it could be a hardware limitation too, either way they have no reason to let you do this as a member of the general public.

    Ah, thereā€™s a technical report!

    ā€œSo the first step is going to be to reverse the random number generator of the gameā€¦ā€ Yep thatā€™s harder lol. Aaand itā€™s right around as hard as I would expect assuming a really shitty RNG. How much time did this guy spend on the video?

    I guess the polymino-placement algorithm must be in the technical report? Oh wait, pre-computed brute force search for each byte.

    Well, this next one sounds biohazerdous. Jesus Christ that test is far dumber than this harder drive could ever be. Oh man, heā€™s designing and printing a circuit board? And building physical things? He really does go all-out.

    Also, still gross. And yes, Bitcoin is also gross, especially because itā€™s a persistent bad implementation of a non-terrible idea.

    railsdev , in Harder Drive: Hard drives we didn't want or need

    Whereā€™s that Piped bot at? These links to Google services are killing me (completely blocked on my network).

    kryllic ,
    @kryllic@programming.dev avatar

    This might help: libredirect.github.io

    xmunk , in classic configure neovim experience

    Thatā€™s why I use emacs. It just works.

    (just kidding, I use nano because itā€™s ā€œgood enoughā€)

    Chreutz ,

    You freakā€¦

    5ublimation , in classic configure neovim experience
    @5ublimation@hexbear.net avatar

    skill issue

    smik , in classic configure neovim experience
    @smik@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Have you ever tried changing anything substantial in any other editor? Itā€™s a nightmare if you want a custom experience.

    rimjob_rainer , in Spooktober meme time!

    java le bad am I rite? updoots to the left

    s_s ,

    Is this a boilerplate comment?

    lemmyman ,

    Boilerplate comment for boilerplate meme

    s_s ,

    Sounds like an inheritance problem.

    topinambour_rex ,
    @topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

    It supports one of the best creative coding language, processing.

    muleunchangedstarved OP , in classic configure neovim experience

    I can tell you, my productivity is on never-seen-before heights.

    QuazarOmega ,

    Just not specifying if in positive or negative

    irmoz ,

    heights

    dust_accelerator ,

    1.2e-10 to 1.3e-10 range

    EfreetSK , in Spooktober meme time!
    @EfreetSK@lemmy.world avatar

    Java ā€¦ BAAAAD! Ahahahaha never gets old.

    Also search your dictionary for ā€˜sarcasmā€™

    Psythik ,

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  • kameecoding ,

    in my personal experience the Venn diagram of people who say java sucks and the ones who write spaghetti code is a big fucking circle.

    xigoi ,
    @xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Some of the worst spaghetti code Iā€™ve seen was idiomatically written Java.

    30p87 ,

    @Mojang

    TheV2 , in classic configure neovim experience

    It can be worth the effort, if the tool fit your needs and wants in the first place.

    Mchugho , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

    Is it just me or is edge actually a decent browser? Itā€™s not like the dark internet explorer times.

    tautalas ,
    @tautalas@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, I like it too

    DeathWearsANecktie ,

    Itā€™s a decent browser, but half the reason people hate it is because MS tries to force it on you. They should let it stand on its own merits then maybe it wouldnā€™t have such a negative reception.

    Shard ,

    Meh, Chrome is a piece of shit as well. If you use gmail on another browser, they keep pestering you to try Chrome.

    DeathWearsANecktie ,

    Ye I hate chrome too

    VinnieFarsheds ,
    @VinnieFarsheds@lemmy.world avatar

    I just opened my gmail in Firefox and I donā€™t see this Chrome notification right now. Maybe it pops up every now and then. I wouldnā€™t be bothered by it that much, since started using Thunderbird as mail client last month, and the interface is so much better and customizable than gmail ever was. I did use Thunderbird a long time ago, but stopped when I got gmail in 2004. And all this time I thought Thunderbird still had the old classic UI. Apparently it became a bit too messy with all different volunteer contributions and Mozilla didnā€™t have a project management to stay with a certain direction. In Feb 2023 they announced in this blog post to rebuild Thunderbird from the ground up and invest the resources to support the community again, although with more control. Then a few months ago this big update to 115 was released, which was featured in a computer tech website so I became curious again. One of the best decisions of this year (although Iā€™m still using it to access gmail), together with joining Lemmy of course.

    Pixel ,

    Solution, donā€™t use Gmail either

    skybreaker ,
    @skybreaker@lemmy.world avatar

    Better than Chrome for sure. Not better than Firefox

    Phen ,

    Itā€™s better than chrome for sure. Depending on what your criteria for using a browser it, it might even be in the top 3 browser options.

    But itā€™s still a Microsoft product filled with the usual Microsoft shenanigans. If you donā€™t care about your browser keeping track of what you do and that sort of privacy concerns, absolutely give it a try. You can even use it on Linux and Android and it works fine on those too.

    One other negative aspect I can think of is that Microsoft is quite open to adhering to Googleā€™s own shenanigans like that recent proposal they got ridiculed for. For that reason Iā€™d rather recommend Vivaldi instead - thereā€™s very little that edge does better than Vivaldi and thereā€™s plenty that Vivaldi does better than it.

    But also, please, consider using Firefox if you donā€™t have any problems with it. Youā€™ll literally be helping make the internet a better place just by using it. So many people use chromium based browsers today that Google literally owns the way the internet works.

    Mchugho ,

    Iā€™ve never really liked Firefox and Iā€™ve tried it multiple times. As for big companies tracking data, I think thatā€™s pretty much unavoidable at this stage and I donā€™t really care.

    My only criteria for browsers is just stuff loading when it should and fast. Corporations are welcome to my shit data, the only thing that annoys me about that is they profit from it and I donā€™t.

    PastorHaggis ,
    @PastorHaggis@lemmy.world avatar

    I wasnā€™t a fan of Firefox either and personally lived using edge. When the whole web integrity thing started happening, I felt like I should switch to Firefox and havenā€™t looked back.

    I still have some complaints, like you canā€™t install sites native app which I used a lot. I donā€™t think tab groups have been implemented yet, which isnā€™t a huge deal but very useful. And there were a few others I canā€™t remember off the top of my head. In the end I value my privacy a bit more so Iā€™ve decided Firefox is worth it.

    Plus mobile ad blocking is a god send.

    Tlaloc_Temporal ,

    There are several, possibly dozens, of tab group extensions for firefox.

    PastorHaggis ,
    @PastorHaggis@lemmy.world avatar

    Sure, and thereā€™s also an extension to install a web page as an app similar to Chrome. The point is that, out of the box, it lacks some features that I enjoy. Extensions are great and I use plenty of them, but that doesnā€™t mean that Firefox has those features, it just has extensions that have them.

    Firefox is great, donā€™t get me wrong, Iā€™m definitely preferring it, but that doesnā€™t mean it doesnā€™t have all the features that I wanted up front.

    CeeBee ,

    you canā€™t install sites native app

    Thereā€™s an extension that lets you do this. I use it and it works great.

    I donā€™t think tab groups have been implemented yet

    Funny thing is that forced group tabs on Chrome mobile is what made me ditch it.

    PastorHaggis ,
    @PastorHaggis@lemmy.world avatar

    The PWA app works decent, but, unless I did something wrong, it would open links in itself instead of my main Firefox window which wasnā€™t what Iā€™d want normally.

    I still use it, but itā€™s definitely not as nice as Iā€™d want it to be.

    Definitely one of those things thatā€™s minor and I can look past though.

    CeeBee ,

    and I donā€™t really care.

    This is why we canā€™t have nice things, like privacy.

    Mchugho ,

    Just being honest. Itā€™s only the 0.5% of nerds that use Lemmy that actually care. Itā€™s just one more thing I canā€™t bring myself to care about.

    JeffCraig ,

    Itā€™s because Edge is built on Chromium now.

    TootSweet , in Spooktober meme time!

    Write once, run anywhere away.

    ChillCapybara , in Harder Drive: Hard drives we didn't want or need

    Not since the video about aluminum can manufacturing have I sat inexplicably spellbound for the entire thing.

    JackbyDev OP ,

    Idk if I saw the same one but yeah I really appreciate all the workings of the ā€œkā€™chhkā€ now. Itā€™s so fascinating!

    Did you see the one about Hawaii having different cans? youtu.be/7Qi6oIOHbDg

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