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DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

1a. Folks, before you name your children, don’t make it easy for the big corporations to sue you. Those who “own” (i.e. use the government to suppress your right to free speech) a conlang, be it Dothraki, Klingon, or Tolkien’s language care far more about profit than culture.

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2b. wp:Dothraki language

In 2012, 146 newborn girls in the United States were named “Khaleesi”, the Dothraki term for the wife of a khal or ruler, and the title adopted in the series by Daenerys Targaryen.[3]

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3c. wt:kalisi

Noun

kalisi (n class, plural kalisi)

Alternative form of kalisiamu

wt:kalisiamu:Swahili

Etymology

Borrowed from English calcium.

huquad ,

This is their fault for not checking the username db first. Should’ve tried xXx_khaleesi_xXx instead

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Are they worried that this 6 year old is stealing the identity of a fictional character? 🤨

Maggoty ,

The idiocy of naming your kid Khaleesi aside, the UK just decided that a corporation can own your name and prevent you from enjoying the rights of your citizenship.

That’s pretty fucked.

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

“queen” in Lojban is “nolraitruti’u.”

mw.lojban.org/…/me_lu_ju'i_lobypli_li'u_18_moi

😁🙂

Maggoty ,

Are you saying they should just use lojban?

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

Presumably they won’t get sued by IP (“intellectual property”) trolls.

Ilovethebomb ,

The Passport Office reportedly later called Lucy to apologize for the error.

No, they can’t. That’s not how copyright works. Read the damn article.

ColeSloth ,

You named your daughter after a tv/book character famous for getting naked, railed, being a bit nuts, and losing a war? I guess she OG owned some dragons for a while. Destined to be bad ass destroy all mega lizards before season 8 destroyed an entire series.

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The people involved with this bullshit should be sacked. Typical power-tripping idiots.

humbletightband ,

Can’t see anything wrong with calling your child after your favorite character

TheLowestStone ,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

Well, for starters the character’s name isn’t even Khaleesi.

Nuke_the_whales ,

That’s it, I’m naming my kid Norman Bates

Nuke_the_whales ,

Mom especially

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, I don’t think she technically did anything wrong but I really wish she wouldn’t have.

Xenny ,

What’s wrong with passport offices? Here in the states I tried to get my passport in my teen years. I filled all the paperwork paid for it and everything when it came time to get the passport they were just like"you don’t exist your social security number isn’t real" and that’s b******* since my mom had been literally filing taxes with that number as a dependent my entire life. The passport office said tough s*** fax me all your ID information maybe we can do something. So I literally hooked up a fax machine in 2014 and sent everything off but still nothing.

Tl;Dr US passport office told me I’m not a person and took my money anyway.

Birbatron ,

I’m not familiar with how voting works in America but like…

Can you vote? I mean it thinks you’re not a person, can non-people vote?

Xenny ,

I can and have voted since. The passport office was just on something

APassenger ,

This is what congress people are for.

Maggoty ,

A. Call your Congress critter. Part of their job is tracking stuff like this down.

B. Go check with SSA immediately. That can be a big problem later.

Flax_vert ,

Worth mentioning that the UK and Ireland is the easiest country to change your name in. All you need is two friends and a printer. Although it may be more complicated for children, especially if the parents aren’t together (I still think it’s pretty straightforward if they are together, just both parents need to approve it as well)

CheeseNoodle ,

Realistically you also need 35 quid to have your drivers license re-issued which you can then use as an initial form of ID to get everything else changed.

Flax_vert ,

This is about a passport application, you don’t need to use a driving licence for that

weariedfae ,

As the article states this is bullshit and who knows what the person who denied her passport was thinking.

I’ve met someone whose legal name was Pepsi and she was able to get regular government documents without contacting PepsiCo.

It’s unfortunate this mom had to go to a lawyer for this crap.

Belgdore ,

I assume it’s some weird UK IP law thing.

paraphrand ,

That’s a cool name

MrJameGumb OP ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the Name for a New Generation

BoxOfFeet ,

There should be a list of approved names for children.

Flax_vert ,

No.

MrJameGumb OP ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I hear that’s worked out really well in North Korea 🤣

sunzu ,

Who decides what goes on that list?

BoxOfFeet ,

In a perfect world, me. But it would probably be better if there was a body of 100 or so individuals of diverse backgrounds to make sure we aren’t excluding names for cultural reasons. Names could be submitted for approval. To weed out the Everleighs, the Sexiannas, the Khaleesis. And any names Jamie Oliver would pick.

I don’t know why people think it is acceptable to treat names like an opportunity for creativity, or fun. Names are serious business. And they aren’t a medium for self expression. If I name my dog after a type of pasta, who cares? But imagine having to give someone a business card with “Fusilli Feet” on it. I love Waterworld, but my kid will never have to put down “Mariner Feet” on a resume. My kid is not an extension of me, or my interests.

MrJameGumb OP ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

The only issue here is that it means no one would ever be able to come up with new names. Like not even respectable sounding ones. Even odd sounding family names would be out. The price of freedom is that occasionally some poor kid gets named Optimus Prime von Hammerpants

rikudou ,

We have that in my country, kinda. Any common name in the calendar can be chosen automatically. Any other name must be approved and you must prove that it’s a real name somewhere (used significantly, one person with a weird name wouldn’t count).

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

“I never thought you could trademark a name,” she added.

I hope my son Marvel’s The Amazing Spider-Man is not going to get in trouble.

MelodiousFunk ,

If not, he can hang in trademark prison with Chalupa Batman.

Wasabi ,

Reminds me of this.

Maggoty ,

I just want to know why I got 5 guys in suits and trenchcoats visiting me after I applied for a passport for my kid, Bobby Drop Tables?

cornshark ,

This doesn’t make any sense. UPS has trademarked the colour brown, yet I’ve known people with the last name Brown who have been able to get passports.

alcoholicorn ,

The Passport Office reportedly later called Lucy to apologize for the error. While officials said they’d now be able to process little Khaleesi’s passport, Lucy said she believes the problem was only solved because she complained on social media.

Sounds like the passport office didn’t understand how trademark works.

JCreazy ,

It’s almost like people should know how their job works

GlenRambo ,

Doubt the “whole office” was even involved. More likely it was one incompetent employee. We’ve all been there. It depends on who answers your call as to what answer you get.

wjrii ,

Yup. This is the boring but likely true response. You get the one Gareth/Dwight who remembers that memo about not using trademarks in marketing materials and decides they know how this all works and that the rights of Warner Brothers have to be respected before putting their intellectual property on a published document. “Just get the appropriate permission on corporate letterhead and notarized, and this will all be fine.”

Social media is one way to fix it, but I tend to think a couple of layers of escalation would have worked as well, if a bit more slowly.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

The government’s not real good about hiring the best pick for each position. Irregularly run into people who have no clue how to actually run their job, and there’s little to no consequences to f****** people’s lives up by doing it incorrectly.

alcoholicorn ,

That’s hardly specific to the government. A couple years ago, Hertz falsely reported 364 customers for grand theft auto. Some of them went to jail.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Most places I’ve worked had incompetent workers. Every state and government agency I’ve ever worked for was made primarily of incompetent workers

expatriado ,

is there a court precedent for this? definitely not first child to be named after trademarked word

njm1314 ,

Weren’t a lot of kids name that when that show came out?

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