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LifeInMultipleChoice ,

“The sky is the limit”

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

"No, but seriously, you literally can't go past the sky."

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

He’s done the math. When the altitude reaches what we perceived as space energy usage reaches infinite, the theory of relativity thought the speed of light was the limiting factor, have you ever seen a picture of space being light? It doesn’t happen. Space doesn’t exist, it can’t be reached. It is but an image created by our minds in an attempt to understand what we cannot visualize. Stars are just the creation of our minds to understand unfathomable non-existance. Why else do you think when you buddy looks at the stars and says “do you see that constellation that looks like Centaurus?” you can’t see it, you see a few dots and play along that they see a mythical creature.

/Sarcasm… Just incase

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

I've yet to meet a single person who has been to space. I'm sorry, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist!!!!

wolfkin ,
@wolfkin@mastodon.social avatar

@LifeInMultipleChoice @inclementimmigrant

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gregorum ,

This is what happens to people who get their brains bashed in for a living. 

Red_October ,

Concussion and head injury are a serious problem in Football today, so this tracks.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m pretty sure he was stupid and ignorant well before he ever suited up.

MushuChupacabra ,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

This will reflect poorly on his application to NASA.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Bro, I hate to break it to you, but NASA doesn't exist.

merc ,

Leland Melvin should set him straight. He is a football player who almost played in the NFL, then he became an astronaut.

DigitalTraveler42 , (edited )

What an idiot, especially when he blames his ignorance on his religious and political stances.

Also dumb, saying this to a newspaper formerly conceived of, headquartered, and printed in the same county that launches the most stuff to space, Brevard county Florida, aka the Space Coast, where you can see stuff being launched to space almost daily, ans almost from any part of the county, including from my backyard pool.

We need way more pushback against people spouting this level of ignorance.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

We need to just not give them a platform to spout it on.

Why the fuck is a college football player’s beliefs about space newsworthy?

DigitalTraveler42 ,

Well partially because once he gets to the pro level his platform grows larger, so it’s best to nip it in the bud now, but also the article mentions Kyrie Irving, whom has similar beliefs, so the author is probably just trying to highlight how pervasive this ignorance has become, also let’s not forget Aaron Rodgers as well and the influence his ignorance has.

rekabis ,

Just because you are highly skilled at something doesn’t make you intelligent or smart.

reddig33 ,

Well good thing they gave him a college scholarship then. I’m sure he will put it to good use.

Idreamofcheesy ,

Just don’t ask him who he thinks is behind the conspiracy😬

bomberesque1 ,

That’s OK Tyler, Space believes in you

ganksy ,
@ganksy@lemmy.world avatar

“I’m like real religious…” Why does religion always end up being a synonym for ignorance and stupidity.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone always calls me edgy when I bring this up but it’s because believing in an obvious fairy tale shows a massive issue with critical thinking and cognitive capability.

These people essentially still believe in Santa Claus and will die for that belief.

Mr_Blott ,

I’m not religious but I dunno. Could you say that about, say the archbishop of Canterbury? The guy’s got ten times the brains and university degrees than you and I put together tbh

ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

If the smartest man alive told you he would kill for Santa Claus would that not terrify you?

You could be an alien with such a complex knowledge and understanding of physics that you can manipulate matter on a molecular scale but the minute you bring up the almighty Kloothorp as your lord and savior I’m out.

yesman ,

You say that belief in an “obvious fairy tale shows a massive issue with critical thinking and cognitive ability” , but you can’t back that up because people who are smart and religious exist.

I agree that believing in something phantasmagorical is a cognitive blind spot. But that’s so common criticizing others for it lacks self awareness. It’s normal to take some obviously symbolic, illusory, or non-existent things seriously: the law, borders, sovereignty, human rights, authority, hierarchy, language, logic, or math. Are you terrified of those willing to die for human rights?

Mr_Blott ,

people who are smart and religious exist.

Precisely. And if they can’t accept that, and just downvote anyone that disagrees with them, they just proved the existence of ignorant, non-religious people

The delicious irony 😂

harry_balzac ,

Depends on how you define smart. Knows many facts? Sure. Able to look at a puzzle and figure it out? Sure. But believing in an invisible Sky Daddy who may or may not talk directly or indirectly to people and getting your morals from books riddled with contradictions and things that are considered immoral and illegal isn’t smart.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

We’re talking a lot of different types of smart, though.

For example said archbishop is obviously smart. And religious. And the two are the same, he’d be an idiot not to uphold the structure that gives him power, at least to the outside. That’s what religion is, a power structure, and you’d be a fool to think those in power believe in the fairy tale instead of the structure.

Zess ,

The guy with “Jesus is coming, look busy” tattooed on his ass?

crusa187 ,

More commonly, will murder for that belief. Which is why this isn’t some edgelord topic, it’s something we need to deal with seriously as a society.

BroBot9000 ,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Because religion is used to control and keep people stupid.

“I don’t have to think since god is taking care of things. Just make sure to donate more than I can afford to church so that god knows I’m an extra special little worshipper.”

God is everywhere and he needs your money!

Illuminostro ,

“Muh skydaddy gonna make it all right.”

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Because of absolutely moronic literal scripture interpretations. These imbeciles take the Bible as some kind of all-purpose knowledge encyclopedia, instead of a moral guide.

DeepGradientAscent ,
@DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

instead of a moral guide

The Abrahamic varietals aren’t good for that either.

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Depends on the subject really, if you remove the bronze age barbarism it actually does have some decent life advice for living in a harmonious way with others, you obviously shouldn’t take anything it says as the final word though, it’s still a book from 3000 years ago with outdated values.

DeepGradientAscent ,
@DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev avatar

The cons vastly outweigh the pros.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Yes if you ignore all the horrible stuff you get the only good stuff that was already well known at the time of its writing.

afraid_of_zombies ,

The Bible is not a moral guide. It has some moral rules in it but the vast majority of it is just stories, things like the descriptions of the temple, and hundreds of ways of saying that God is great.

The people who wrote it took the earlier parts of it to be literal truth.

wildcardology ,

Just the way religion wants them. How else will they get money from them?

AnAngryAlpaca ,

If you start explaining some fact with god or religion, all I hear is “I’m done thinking!”

afraid_of_zombies ,

If you believe in the literal words of the Bible the sky above us is solid hence no space.

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Man got pokemon and concussions mixed up and tried to catch them all

hperrin ,

I guess it’s a good thing his chosen profession doesn’t require intelligence.

CaptDust ,

Can someone buy him a telescope or something? Damn, you can actually see space and planets with your own eyes if you don’t believe it…

merc ,

You can see something, but that doesn’t mean it’s “space” and “planets”.

Look, he’s wrong, and the flat earth conspiracies are stupid. But, it’s not like the flat earth conspiracies can be debunked that easily. They have explanations of what you can see in a telescope.

The real problem is that life requires that life requires a chain of trust. You trust your parents growing up, then your teachers, the media, political leaders, religious leaders, friends, co-workers, whatever. Their knowledge is mostly based on their trusting various people in their lives, and so-on. Sure, I’ve seen images of the earth from space, but I have to trust that that’s what they really are, not elaborate fakes. I’ve never been to South America, but I have to trust that it exists. I have been to Europe, but I wasn’t personally flying the plane, so I have to trust that it wasn’t some elaborate plan to convince me that that continent exists.

A lot of trust in institutions has broken down lately. Sometimes that’s a good thing. If you look at WWI propaganda posters, they seem ridiculous. It’s good that governments can’t so easily convince their people to jump into a war. On the other hand, this is the result. People stop trusting experts, and start trusting random dudes on the Internet who make a good video.

CaptDust ,

I mean if you can’t believe that looking through a mirror and lens, and seeing the rings of Saturn can’t convince you it’s there… well we have words for that: delusional and psychotic. And people used to get hospitalized for it.

merc ,

It can convince you that something’s there, but that doesn’t mean it’s a planet. You believe it’s a planet because of what you were taught in school, and maybe that all the things you were taught were consistent and reinforced each-other so it made sense. To the ancient Romans, it was a god, and we still celebrate that god at christmas (a.k.a. saturnalia). What you can see using a telescope is a circle-shaped thing with ring-shaped things around it. But, to decide that’s a planet means trusting that that object is in fact multiple times the size of the entire planet earth and more than a billion km away. What have you personally done to verify that the mass of Saturn is actually accurate? Are you just trusting what you were taught, or have you actually verified those claims?

Homosexuality used to be considered a psychiatric disorder, so I wouldn’t go by what people used to get hospitalized for. That’s just another example of how common knowledge, or “things everyone believes to be true” can change over time.

As I said, we can’t verify everything ourselves. We have to trust other people, and while it’s good to question what we think we know, we can’t question everything all the time.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

It’s almost like “college football” doesn’t involve any education

HotsauceHurricane ,

“Im real religious” , is not an excuse to ignore scientific fact.

PlantDadManGuy ,

I see you haven’t met any governors from Florida lately.

mPony ,

it’s evidently enough excuse to ignore whatever facts you wish.

scorpious ,

Oh, yes it is.

HotsauceHurricane ,

That rustles my jimmies.

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Then how does Tyler explain Space Jam? Check mate atheists!

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