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OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

Money. If you paid to use those services, they got what they wanted.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Money.

That’s the entirety of the reason.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

“Line must go up.”

iconic_admin ,

Summed up an MBA in four words.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

“Be greedy” => there, did it in two:-P

It is so sad that it works too - no room for nuance, responsibility, even long-term stability (even for the entire human species, + all other mammals on Earth & many others too that we seem ready to take down with us on our way to extinction).

RoidingOldMan ,

Who’s making you use it?

It’s useful for lots of things, but it requires a proof reader.

Kintarian OP ,

I try to do a search on Chrome and Gemini pops up and start spewing its BS. I go into messages and I try to send a message and gemini pops up and asks me if it wants to send a message for me. No I know how to write my own stupid messages. It’s all integrated into Windows 11, Is integrated into the Bing app. It’s like swatting flies trying to get rid of it.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Move to linux use self hosted foss alternatives. Regain ownership of your digital existance. Stop being a slave to the big tech machine.

Kintarian OP ,

Computer? What could this strange device be? Another toy that helped destroy the elder race of man?

I only have a phone

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Damn u can rent a vps and ssh from ur phone?

Kintarian OP ,

A what now with a thingy?

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Ye the flumberboozle

HobbitFoot ,

The idea is that it can replace a lot of customer facing positions that are manpower intensive.

Beyond that, an AI can also act as an intern in assisting in low complexity tasks the same way that a lot of Microsoft Office programs have replaced secretaries and junior human calculators.

Kintarian OP ,

I’ve always figured part of it Is that businesses don’t like to pay labor and they’re hoping that they can use artificial intelligence to get rid of the rest of us so they don’t have to pay us.

Blue_Morpho ,

Ignoring AI as he is like ignoring Spreadsheets as hype. “I can do everything with a pocket calculator! I don’t need stupid auto fill!”

AI doesn’t replace people. It can automate and reduce your workload leaving you more time to solve problems.

I’ve used it for one off scripts. I have friends who have done the same and another friend who used it to create the boilerplate for a government contact bid that he won (millions in revenue for his company of which he got tens of thousands in bonus as engineering sales support).

givesomefucks ,

A dumb person thinks AI is really smart, because they just listen to anyone that answers confidentially

And no matter what, AI is going to give its answer like it’s is 100% definitely the truth.

That’s why there’s such a large crossover with AI and crypto, the same people fall for everything.

There’s new supporting evidence for Penrose’s theory that natural intelligence involves just an absolute shit ton of quantum interactions, because we just found out how the body can create an environment where quantom super position can not only be achieved, but incredibly simply.

AI got a boost because we didn’t really (still dont) understand consciousness. Tech bro’s convinced investors that neurons were what mattered, and made predictions for when that amount of neurons can be simulated.

But if it include billions of molecules in quantum superposition, we’re not getting there in our lifetimes. But there’s a lot of money sunk in to it already, so there’s a lot of money to lose if people suddenly get realistic about what it takes to make a real artificial intelligence.

Kintarian OP ,

So they’re using the sunk cost logical fallacy? Gee that’s intelligent.

givesomefucks ,

The microtubules creating an environment that can sustain quantum super position just came out like a month ago.

In all honesty the tech bros probably don’t even know yet, or understands it means human level AI speculation has essentially been disproven as happening anytime remotely soon.

But I’m assuming when they do, they’ll just ignore it and double down to maintain share prices.

It’s also possible it all crashes and billions of dollars disappear.

Blue_Morpho ,

Microtubules have been pushed for decades without any proof. The latest paper wasn’t evidence but unsupported speculation.

But more importantly the physics of computation that creates intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with understanding intelligence. Even if quantum effects are relevant ( which is extremely unlikely given the warm and moving environment inside the brain), it doesn’t answer anything about how humans are intelligent.

Penrose used Quantum Mechanics as a “God in the Gaps” explanation. That worked 40 years ago but today we have working quantum computers but no human intelligence.

Kintarian OP ,

So the senator from Alaska was right? The internet is all a bunch of tubes?

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

That’s why there’s such a large crossover with AI and crypto, the same people fall for everything.

There’s a large overlap, but some people that did not fall for crypto may fall for AI.

Always never not be hustling, I suppose.

SpaceNoodle ,

Investors are dumb. It’s a hot new tech that looks convincing (since LLMs are designed specifically to appear correct, not be correct), so anything with that buzzword gets a ton of money thrown at it. The same phenomenon has occurred with blockchain, big data, even the World Wide Web. After each bubble bursts, some residue remains that actually might have some value.

Kintarian OP ,

I can see that. That guy over there has the new shiny toy. I want a new shiny toy. Give me a new shiny toy.

pimeys ,

And LLM is mostly for investors, not for users. Investors see you “do AI” even if you just repackage GPT or llama, and your Series A is 20% bigger.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

The hype is also artificial and usually created by the creators of the AI. They want investors to give them boatloads of cash so they can cheaply grab a potential market they believe exists before they jack up prices and make shit worse once that investment money dries up. The problem is, nobody actually wants this AI garbage they’re pushing.

some_guy ,

Rich assholes have spent a ton of money on it and they need to manufacture reasons why that wasn’t a waste.

Tylerdurdon ,
  • automation by companies so they can "streamline"their workforces.
  • innovation by “teaching” it enough to solve bigger problems (cancer, climate, etc).
  • creating a sentient species that is the next evolution of life and watching it systematically eradicate every last human to save the planet.
Kintarian OP ,

Terminator was also a documentary

Tylerdurdon ,

Skynet for the win!

Kintarian OP ,

Come with me if you want to live!

lemmylommy ,

You have asked why there is so much hype around artifical intelligence.

There are a few reasons this might be the case:

  1. Because humans are curious. Experimenting with how humans believe memory and intelligence work might just lead them to find out something about their own intelligence.
  2. Because humans are stupid. Most do not have the slightest idea what „AI“ is this time, yet they are willing to believe in the most outlandish claims about it. Look up ELIZA. It fooled a lot of people, just like LLMs today.
  3. Because humans are greedy. And the prospect of replacing a lot of wage-earners, and not just manual laborers this time, with a machine is just too good to pass up for management. The potential savings are huge, if it works, so the willingness to spend money is also considerable.

In conclusion, there are many reasons for the hype around artificial intelligence and most of them relate to human deficiencies and human nature in general.

If you have further questions I am happy to help. Enjoy your experience with AI. While you still can. 🤖

Kintarian OP ,

I believe in questioning everything.

TropicalDingdong ,

Because if you can get a program to write a program, that can both a) write it self, and b) improve upon the program in some way, you can put together a feedback where exponential improvement is possible.

Kintarian OP ,

I’ve wondered if you could do that until it makes a perfect machine.

TropicalDingdong ,

First I recommend at least reading the wikipedia on super-intelligence.

Second, I recommend playing this game: www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Generative AI has allowed us to do some things that we could not do before. A lot of people very foolishly took that to mean it would let us do everything we couldn’t do before.

Kintarian OP ,

That’s because the PR department keeps telling us that it’s the best things since sliced bread.

Lauchs ,

I think there’s a lot of armchair simplification going on here. Easy to call investors dumb but it’s probably a bit more complex.

AI might not get better than where it is now but if it does, it has the power to be a societally transformative tech which means there is a boatload of money to be made. (Consider early investors in Amazon, Microsoft, Apple and even the much derided Bitcoin.)

Then consider that until incredibly recently, the Turing test was the yardstick for intelligence. We now have to move that goalpost after what was preciously unthinkable happened.

And in the limited time with AI, we’ve seen scientific discoveries, terrifying advancements in war and more.

Heck, even if AI gets better at code (not unreasonable, sets of problems with defined goals/outputs etc, even if it gets parts wrong shrinking a dev team of obscenely well paid engineers to maybe a handful of supervisory roles… Well, like Wu Tang said, Cash Rules Everything Around Me.

Tl;dr: huge possibilities, even if there’s a small chance of an almost infinite payout, that’s a risk well worth taking.

ProfessorScience ,

When ChatGPT first started to make waves, it was a significant step forward in the ability for AIs to sound like a person. There were new techniques being used to train language models, and it was unclear what the upper limits of these techniques were in terms of how “smart” of an AI they could produce. It may seem overly optimistic in retrospect, but at the time it was not that crazy to wonder whether the tools were on a direct path toward general AI. And so a lot of projects started up, both to leverage the tools as they actually were, and to leverage the speculated potential of what the tools might soon become.

Now we’ve gotten a better sense of what the limitations of these tools actually are. What the upper limits of where these techniques might lead are. But a lot of momentum remains. Projects that started up when the limits were unknown don’t just have the plug pulled the minute it seems like expectations aren’t matching reality. I mean, maybe some do. But most of the projects try to make the best of the tools as they are to keep the promises they made, for better or worse. And of course new ideas keep coming and new entrepreneurs want a piece of the pie.

bionicjoey ,

A lot of jobs are bullshit. Generative AI is good at generating bullshit. This led to a perception that AI could be used in place of humans. But unfortunately, curating that bullshit enough to produce any value for a company still requires a person, so the AI doesn’t add much value. The bullshit AI generates needs some kind of oversight.

empireOfLove2 ,
@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They were pretty cool when they first blew up. Getting them to generate semi useful information wasn’t hard and anything hard factual they would usually avoid answering or defer.

They’ve legitimately gotten worse over time. As user volume has gone up necessitating faster, shallower model responses, and further training on Internet content has resulted in model degradation as it trains on its own output, the models gradually begin to break. They’ve also been pushed harder than they were meant to, to show “improvement” to investors demanding more accurate human like fact responses.

At this point it’s a race to the bottom on a poorly understood technology. Every money sucking corporation latched on to LLM’s like a piglet finding a teat, thinking it was going to be their golden goose to finally eliminate those stupid whiny expensive workers that always ask for annoying unprofitable things like “paid time off” and “healthcare”. In reality they’ve been sold a bill of goods by Sam Altman and the rest of the tech bros currently raking in a few extra hundred billion dollars.

Kintarian OP ,

Now it’s degrading even faster as AI scrapes from AI in a technological circle jerk.

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