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Why don't computers have "computer-numbers" equivalent to phone numbers

Why doesn’t every computer have 256 char domain name, along with a private key to prove it is the sole owner of the address?

Edits: For those technically inclined: Stuff like DHCP seems unnecessary if every device has a serial number based address that’s known not to collide. It seems way more simple and faster than leasing dynamic addresses. On top of that with VOIP I can get phone calls even without cell service, even behind a NAT. Why is the network designed in such a way where that is possible, but I can’t buy a static address that will persist across networks endpoint changes (e.g. laptop connecting to a new unconfigured wifi connection) such that I can initiate a connection to my laptop while it is behind a NAT.

  • Yes, it would be a privacy nightmare, I want to know why it didnt turn out that way
  • When I say phone number, I mean including area/country code
  • AFAIK IP addresses (even static public ones) are not equivlent to phone numbers. I don’t get a new phone number every time I connect to a new cell tower. Even if a static IP is assigned to a device, my understanding is that connecting the device to a new uncontrolled WiFi, especially a router with a NAT, will make it so that people who try to connect to the static IP will simply fail.
  • No, MAC addresses are not equivalent phone numbers. 1. Phone numbers have one unique owner, MAC addresses can have many owners because they can be changed at any time to any thing on most laptops. 2. A message can’t be sent directly to a MAC address in the same way as a phone number
  • Yes, IMEI is unique, but my laptop doesn’t have one and even if it did its not the same as an eSim or sim card. We can send a message to an activated Sim, we can’t send a message to an IMEI or serial number
Shadow ,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

Intel tried this on the Pentium 3, we all hated it so they stopped.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_III#Controversy_a…

jeffhykin OP ,

This is the kind of answer I was looking for, thank you!

JesterIzDead ,

a) what the hell is ipv32?

b) it’s astounding how many upvotes some of these nonsensical answers have

adam_y ,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

I see you getting downvoted for a correct answer.

IP addresses are like street addresses. I can live at 10 High Street in London, you can live at 10 High Street in Ohio. Those are not the same address right? Folk confusing public and private ip addresses.

jeffhykin OP , (edited )
  1. Yeah I was lazy with saying ipv32 just to mean something excessively long. I didnt want to say ipv6, since I kinda think it needs to at least be 64bits (edit: ipv6 is actually 128bits), and really for a public-private key pair it should be larger, so more like 512 to avoid anything like the v4 v6 cacatestrophe again in 20 years with post quantum forms of asymetric key challenges. But I didnt feel like writing all that out.
  2. I’m with you. I knew I’d get people not reading and say “that’s the ip address”, but MAC address? 🤦‍♂️
Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

That’s what the serial numbers on the parts themselves are.

valen ,
@valen@lemmy.world avatar

That would be a privacy nightmare.

slazer2au ,

Yep. See EUI-64 IPv6 addressing.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Notwithstanding the instant privacy nightmare this would create, essentially abolishing online anonymity overnight, this is kinda-sorta what MAC addresses are already. As to why MAC addresses can be spoofed so easily without any real impact on anything, refer to my first statement.

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

IMEI numbers for phones are more unique than phone numbers.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

UDID is kind-of what you’re talking about, but not an exact analogue.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Well, phone numbers do get re-assigned too.

MajorHavoc ,

Lack of demand.

Phones having unique unalterable numbers was never an intentional feature desired by users, just a limitation of the available technology.

Computer network cards do have such a number, their MAC address, but modern ones can scramble it to avoid being tracked, without any loss of ability to be reached by everyone you want to be reached by.

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