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Panera now displaying warning about its caffeinated lemonade in all stores after lawsuit over customer's death

Sarah Katz, 21, had a heart condition and died hours after she drank Panera’s Charged Lemonade, a large cup of which contains more caffeine than Red Bull and Monster energy drinks combined.

All Panera Bread restaurants are now displaying “enhanced” disclosures about the restaurant chain’s highly caffeinated lemonade, a spokesperson said Saturday, following a lawsuit that was filed by the family of a young woman who died after drinking the beverage.

Monday’s lawsuit, which was first obtained by NBC News, alleges that Sarah Katz, an Ivy League student with a heart condition, died after she drank Panera’s Charged Lemonade last year.

A large Charged Lemonade contains 390 milligrams — nearly the 400-milligram daily maximum of caffeine that the Food and Drug Administration says healthy adults can safely consume.

xtremeownage ,

Hmm… I need to go get some lemonade from panera…

Sounds good

npz ,

200mg of caffeine makes me feel ill. 390mg in a lemonade is insane. wtf

PraiseTheSoup ,

Any ivy league student that can afford to eat at Panera? So, her parents are rich and could afford to sue. Makes sense.

nodsocket ,

The outcome will hopefully prevent others from dying. Just be thankful they had the money to sue instead of letting Panera get away with it.

kittenzrulz123 ,

(not so) fun fact: they put it where they normally place non caffeinated drinks

abraxas ,

I’d like to point out the irony that these enhanced warnings are a tiny sign that will easily be missed if you ignore the MASSIVE signage and marketing that remind the consumer that the beverages are caffeinated.

The silly part is that “see, it’s a WAaaaarrrrning” might hold more protective weight in court than “HEY LOOK WE GOT A FUCKTON OF CAFFEINE” billboards.

frezik ,

These are the sorts of stories and warning labels that make people want to buy it more.

Vytle ,

Haha i didnt know the charged lemonade was a thing before today. I was tired when i originally read this in the morning and immediatelly ordered it.

Etterra ,

Who’d have thought a place that can’t even make a bagel with cream cheese properly would be the one to turbo-charge the lemonade.

Seriously, once I decided to get one and they gave me an uncut bagel and little shitty single-serve cream cheese. Even I asked wtf and said I wanted it done they looked at me as if I were from friggin outer space.

broface ,

I don’t think the two are related, at all.

snippyfulcrum ,
@snippyfulcrum@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure it’s normal to put your own cream cheese on… But it would have been nice if they’d at least cut the bagel, I guess.

PoorAristocat ,

That’s ridiculous, if you get breakfast sandwiches do they just give you an egg, mayo, and bread? Aren’t they in the service industry?

ProtecyaTec ,

If you want something done a certain way and are not sure if they provide that kind of thing, you’re supposed to ask. Some people have their bagels sliced instead of cut, some not at all. Like, just ask.

Colorcodedresistor ,

What is going to come from this is Panera settles, and then sticks the charged lemonade behind the counter and enhances warning labels.

What may indirectly come from this is Solid Numbers on Caffeine overdose. and what is a safe amount and what is playing with fire.

It’s a modern day created problem. energy drinks flood the market, other companies compete and boom, someone died. I’ve seen reports that she had some medical issues and caffeine was like her version of a bee sting or peanut allergy , but I’ve yet to corroborate that narrative.

AstridWipenaugh ,

Yes, prior reporting covered that she had a heart condition and she was extremely aware that too much caffeine would kill her. The lemonade was clearly labeled with its caffeine content. It didn’t say it was extreme, but it was clearly labeled with how much is in it. The story that “she didn’t know” doesn’t add up unless she was just being wildly negligent.

Article with image of the labeling: www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/…/amp/

As someone with a food allergy, I check everything I eat for my allergens. If I’m not sure what’s in it, I don’t eat it. And all that will happen to me is I’ll feel ill for a while. Anyone with a lethal condition damn well knows better.

broface ,

I’m sure a lot of people don’t know off the top of there head what is and is not a lot of caffeine.

SheeEttin ,

People with caffeine sensitivity probably do.

M137 ,

their*

You failing basic grammar should tell you that your opinion on this (and other things) is worth nothing.

broface ,

Lol, obvious troll.

Blocked.

abraxas ,

I’m sure a lot of people don’t know off the top of there head what is and is not a lot of caffeine.

“As much caffeine as our coffee” She was sucking down 30oz cups of it (still under the FDA safe limit) on multiple days, and her family’s claim is that she thought it wasn’t caffeinated at all.

The one possible claim is that in SOME stores the signage was missing for various reasons. That doesn’t seem to be the case with her store.

broface ,

Funny. We’ve actually been doing the same thing with salt and sugar for decades.

But overconsuming those doesn’t usually result in an immediate death. Just diabetes and stroke.

dutchkimble ,

I wonder how the doctors knew that she had this lemonade and pinned it as the sole cause of her death vs anything else that could have caused it or as a combination of things since she had a condition already - the legal discussion of this in the lawsuit could be very relevant for panera

sudoshakes ,

She knew she had the condition and avoided high caffeine drinks.

She did not know about the caffeine content, 390mg in the large lemonade, due to poor labeling by Panera. This one drink is 10mg less than the maximum daily dose for HEALTHY person according to the FDA.

Given the lack of consuming any other caffeine products regularly due to her knowing about their impact on her heart, it is not a leap to say the lemonade was the culprit.

Further, the lawsuit alleges harm, even if not the sole cause of death, from their product due to not making it clear to the buyer that contents has so much caffeine.

According to coffeechemistry.com, one liquid ounce of espresso can have anywhere between 30 and 50mg of caffeine. That means that a double shot will likely have anywhere between 60 and 100mg.

She bought a lemonade, without caffeine labeling, that contained 8 shots of espresso in caffeine. Cause of death or not, the legal culpability and reasonable expectation that this would not be in its contents is clear as day.

This will never go to trial.

LufyCZ ,

I saw a picture of the lemonade dispenser herw and the caffeine content was shown quite clearly

DaveDavesen ,

The caffeine content was on the label but rather small for such an extreme amount. Additionally, it was not put in relation to anything for 2 of the 3 lemonades, they only wrote the coffeine content in milligram, very few people can relate to this information without looking it other drinks.

For one of them, it claimed to be in similar strength as their coffee, which was a lie according to the lawsuit, as their coffee has “normal” coffeine content.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

It’s not a lie. 30oz of the lemonade has as much caffeine as 30oz of their dark roast coffee. That’s a lot of coffee.

DaveDavesen ,

I have rechecked the image and the coffee comparison was for 2 out of 3.

You are right, that the concentration of the caffeine was as high as it is in a normal cup of coffee. But the caffeine content was given as an absolute value not as a concentration, so it was misleading. But you are right, it was not a lie.

Their text can be easily interpreted as an comparisons of the large or small lemonade with a large or small cup of coffee. Which is not an unreasonable thought, as 30 oz of Cola has roughly the same amount of coffeine (83 mg) as 1 cup of coffee (96 mg, according to Mayo Clinic).

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

“As much as our dark roast coffee” isn’t an absolute value, but I think there really should be a sticker saying “Warning: high caffeine content / approx (x mg small) (y mg med) (390mg large)”. This sticker should appear clearly next to the menu items as well as on the cups. Self-serve stations should probably be removed since kids are vastly more likely to drink a ton of lemonade compared to hot, black coffee.

I drank a few of these not sure if it was “as much as a regular coffee” or “as much as an equivalent size.” I didn’t think twice because I take a lot of caffeine anyway, but I shouldn’t have had to google it.

I can see how depending on the circumstances of obtaining the drink, one might not know there is caffeine in it at all:

  • ordering from a third party online app that doesn’t have all the right names, descriptions, and pictures
  • ordering through a third party proxy or having the item described to you by a third party (“anyone want anything? They have lemonade…”)

There really should be a clear notice right on the thing you’re about to drink from, of exactly how much caffeine is in it. No marketing crap (“it’s charged!”) or vague comparisons (“as much as our coffee”) suffices.

abraxas ,

How about a giant sign that says “390mg large” that everyone is just complaining that “how could she know that 390mg was too much”? Because it does actually have the number 390mg on the sign attached to the machine.

The funny thing in this case is that many people replying to this about what Panera should have done are naming things that Panera had already done in this case.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

It does have 390mg large on the machines, but it’s easy to miss. I do think it should be way bigger and have way more contrast, preferably a black/white standardized sticker. It doesn’t have the mg amount on the cups, or if it does, it’s really easy to miss.

abraxas ,

I don’t pour my drinks at 4’ distance, and pictures at a closer range make the sign as obviously in-your-face as it looks in person (my experience). It’s approximately the biggest, most blatant signs I’ve seen on a drink dispenser. Not to mention the massive underlined “caffeinated” on the well menu, and the giant floor signs in front of it advertising how caffeinated it is.

It doesn’t have the mg amount on the cups, or if it does, it’s really easy to miss.

Per the sign: “30fl - 430cal - 390mg caffeine”

It does, and that is below the big ad-line about how it’s “as much caffeine as our Dark Roast Coffee”.

The real problem here is that they were REALLY pushing the caffeinated nature of the lemonade as a value-add, so it was (nearly?) impossible to miss. We don’t know the poor girl missed that sign (as it’s unlikely she did), and we can tell that fact because the family’s lawyer is also already pushing a second argument that the “as much caffeine as our dark roast coffee” is misleading.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Per the sign: “30fl - 430cal - 390mg caffeine”

It does, and that is below the big ad-line about how it’s “as much caffeine as our Dark Roast Coffee”.

On the cups. The thing that people actually put up to their face and drink. There’s a billion reasons why you wouldn’t see the sign on the dispenser.

The real problem here is that they were REALLY pushing the caffeinated nature of the lemonade as a value-add, so it was (nearly?) impossible to miss.

It’s not even close to impossible to miss. It’s really quite easy.

abraxas ,

On the cups

You mean the standard Panera cups that you use for everything from water to iced tea? Panera is self-serve.

There’s a billion reasons why you wouldn’t see the sign on the dispenser.

So putting a caffeine warning on the cups used for water and sprite is the right answer, in your opinion? Maybe armed guards for every allergen scanning your wrist?

It’s not even close to impossible to miss. It’s really quite easy.

Agree to disagree. A reasonable person wouldn’t miss it if they were paying attention. Do you have any severe food allergies? This really compares favorably to that because typically I get far less warning of an allergen in food than people get of beverages having a little caffeine in them. I don’t get “warning contains lobster” on my food plates.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

You mean the standard Panera cups that you use for everything from water to iced tea? Panera is self-serve.

Yes. These ones. The ones for the charged lemonade.

This really compares favorably to that because typically I get far less warning of an allergen in food than people get of beverages having a little caffeine in them.

This isn’t a little caffeine, this is an uncomfortable amount of caffeine for most people who aren’t regular coffee drinkers. Obviously a dangerous amount for people with heart conditions.

abraxas ,

Yes. These ones. The ones for the charged lemonade.

Interesting. A lot of Paneras use and advertise regular cups with this (just look at some marketing images to confirm). None o fmy local Paneras have them. I’m not sure there’s a NEED to advertise it on a cup, but why not if it’s custom I guess.

This isn’t a little caffeine, this is an uncomfortable amount of caffeine for most people who aren’t regular coffee drinkers

The FDA doesn’t think so. But then, what is “Uncomfortable”? I can’t handle the sugar in a can of Coca Cola. I want giant “fuckton of sugar” warnings. And water. If I drink more than 3 or 4 of my water bottle a day I can end up with real medical issues. Giant “don’t drink to much water” signs on it?

The problem is that 400mg is not that much in the reality at the restaurant where it was purchased. It’s a coffee and sandwich shop, and it’s been known for bottomless coffee forever. Guess what happens if you get a bottomless large coffee and refill it just once? 800mg of caffeine baby.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

The problem is that 400mg is not that much in the reality at the restaurant where it was purchased.

It’s literally up there with the most amount of caffeine you can get in one item from the restaurant.

Anyway, really boring argument.

abraxas ,

It’s literally up there with the most amount of caffeine you can get in one item from the restaurant.

That seems like an odd line. So this drink that’s advertised as being just as caffeinated as coffee has a bit less caffeine than coffee. News at 11.

Anyway, really boring argument.

Agreed

Lesrid ,

I know nothing about this lawsuit but if she ordered this from a delivery app then there would be zero indication during purchasing that it is caffeinated

abraxas ,

due to poor labeling by Panera

Having seen the labeling, I would say it’s the opposite of poor. They’re far more focused on the caffeine in this lemonade than I would have expected on first reading the story.

Either signage was missing, or she did the food equivalent of driving the wrong way up a one-way because she was texting.

sudoshakes ,

This is the point.

The location.

In question.

Did not.

Properly label.

The contents.

This will be a shock to some of you, but the practices of a multimillion dollar franchise across many states can in fact have deviation at one location. People’s experience at locations since the event, at locations other than where it occurred, is not a sum guarantee of what happened at the time of this incident and location.

abraxas , (edited )

This is the point.

The location.

In question.

Did not.

Properly label.

The contents.

Got any info that points to that? All the articles I’ve read complain that the standard signage isn’t clear enough and that “as much caffeine as dark coffee” is somehow misleading.

People’s experience at locations since the event, at locations other than where it occurred, is not a sum guarantee of what happened at the time of this incident and location.

I agree. I’ve been reading the complaints. They do have standard marketing for this, and the articles are attacking that standard marketing, not saying it was missing.

sudoshakes ,

Somehow?

A dark coffee has up to ~40 mg of caffeine.

This was nearly 400.

I would say being off by 10X is pretty fucking misleading.

abraxas ,

I get it now. You really don’t know much about caffeine or coffee, huh? Keep an open mind and read my reply carefully.

A dark coffee has up to ~40 mg of caffeine.

An 8oz Dark Roast coffee is approximately 100mg of caffeine. The same sized light roast coffee is closer to 150mg of caffeine. Panera’s smallest dark roast is 214mg of caffeine. ~40mg is a 4oz half-cup of lowish-caffeine coffee.

This was nearly 400.

Have you ever seen or held a 30oz cup in your hand? It’s freaking massive. In US terms, it’s a QUART. In rest-of-the-world terms, it’s almost a liter. Every beverage a fast food joint sells is unhealthy at that size (probably including their local filtered water). But the ONE ingredient that isn’t unhealthy in all that is the caffeine! The sugar or sweeteners are the real villains there. 400mg of caffeine for 30oz is simply not excessive. Is it a good amount? Sure. It’s about 2/3 as strong as coffee. You shouldn’t treat it as a caffeine-free beverage. Obviously.

I would say being off by 10X is pretty fucking misleading.

Per Panera’s own nutritional info, this 30oz caffeinated lemonade has about the same total caffeine as a large 20oz hot coffee (which is TINY for a large in the US, but you get free refills as Panera). You’re comparing a 30oz caffeinated lemonade to a 4oz half-cup of lower-caffeine coffee. But as I said, I think it’s ignorance and not bad faith.

So hopefully I’ve just educated you.

JustZ ,

I fuckin bet they are.

Case ,

I feel like every beverage containing caffeine should have its total content labeled.

Not because I’m sensitive or anything, I just need the biggest dose I can find in the morning.

Then again, I’ve been addicted to caffeine since child hood. I quit once, it was thought to be disturbing my sleep; NOPE! Just bipolar mania fucking it up.

If anyone is concerned, I’m on meds and doing well - I still might stab someone in the morning over getting in the way of caffeine though.

buzz86us ,

I really don’t get this lawsuit it is clearly labeled on the app, and the dispensers.

T00l_shed ,

It may be something to do without a proper reference. If it showed a large =3 cups of coffee you get a good idea, but stating a certain mg of caffeine doesn’t really mean much to most people.

PurplePropagule ,

It says “as much caffeine as our dark roast” on the dispenser. It’s a pretty solid reference imo. If you have the same quantity of lemonade or coffee, then you have the same caffeine intake.

T00l_shed ,

Saying as much caffeine as our dark roast would imply that the lemonade has the same amount as a cup, but it’s like 3 to 4 cups of coffee equivalent.

PurplePropagule ,

It has the same amount of caffeine if you get the 20fluid oz cup. A 20oz coffee at panera is 268mg while 20oz of lemonade is 260. I don’t think you have a point here.

T00l_shed ,

Yes I’ve looked it up, the serving size is this biggest culprit here. The large charged lemonade has around 400 MG of caffeine, for around 30 oz. 8 oz of coffee has around 80 to 100 MG of caffeine. Scale it up and it works out to about 4 cups of coffee.

PurplePropagule ,

I mean dunkin serves 396mg of caffeine in their large iced coffees. Just eyeballing it, their large iced beverages seem to be 30oz as well. I don’t think that the serving sizes are much of an issue when compared to other beverages with similar caffeine content at other restaurants and cafes.

thecarninja ,

I think this would make far more sense. Plus, I know that for me, the last thing I would think about lemonade is that it has caffeine content. Alchohol, maybe. Sugar? Sure. But caffeine? Nope. Having never heard of their Charged Lemonade before this, I think I’d probably be likely to make that mistake at least once.

abraxas ,

There’s a fairly massive sign right in front of it with caffeine content and advertising targeted at caffeine fans.

abraxas ,

It’s less caffeine than a large ice coffee at most establishments, straight-out. 400mg caffeine is downright reasonable. And the articles have been claiming her family’s side is that she thought it wasn’t caffeinated at all.

T00l_shed ,

Well I don’t know if I would say 400mg is reasonable, its the fda daily recommended limit. That’s around 4 8 oz cups of coffee, which is quite a bit of caffeine, certainly safe for most people of course.

abraxas ,

Well I don’t know if I would say 400mg is reasonable

It is absolutely 100% reasonable.

its the fda daily recommended limit.

It’s more of a loose recommendation than some FDA limits. They’re saying that it is 100% safe for most Americans to have 400mg every day of their lives. The comparative figure to 400mg of caffeine is 0mg of alcohol. 400mg of caffeine is health positive for almost all people, unlike pretty much every other ingredient in beverages at that counter.

That’s around 4 8 oz cups of coffee

For better or worse, nobody drinks 8oz coffees in the US. A small at a major coffee chain is 10oz. It’s a little less 1 Large Iced Coffee from Dunkin, possibly the single most popular drive-through beverage in the country.

Psythik ,

To be fair, Panera has always labeled the caffeine content of its drinks. Problem is that people don’t read the god damn label on the machine, forcing Panera to make it bigger and more obvious.

shottymcb ,

The staff nationwide were instructed to tell customers that it has “About as much caffeine as our dark roast” when asked about the caffeine content though.

Ender2k ,

...which is accurate.

Ataraxia ,

Because people are idiots. If they put the mg most people will have no fucking clue what it means and assume it’s a safe amount.

PurplePropagule ,

That is correct. If you compare the caffeine content per ml to most coffees, you’ll find that it’s essentially the same. Star bucks coffee, for example, has 410mg for their large cup which is actually more per ml than the lemonades have.

abraxas ,

It’s actually about 2/3 the caffeine of any of the most popular coffee blends in the US. It’s also only ~2/3 of the caffeine of Panera’s own Light Roast. That’s why they explicitly compare its caffeination to their dark roast.

abraxas ,

Ironically, this new warning is a lot smaller than the label, and less visible. It’s just CYA protections from a company it seems that for the first time in a long time, didn’t actually fuck up.

AstridWipenaugh ,

Their labeling clearly stated the amount of caffeine per 20 and 30 oz cups. Image: www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/…/amp/

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

I had no opinion until I read this thread.

I’m a person that suffers from addiction to food, for lack of better phrasing. As in, I am currently going to therapy and a nutricionist and have won this battle a few times before.

I usually think sugar laws are BS, but taxes are a way of making things more “balanced without bans”.

850 ml of somethig should not have 14% of its weight come from sugar. That’s insane. No serving of something should contain 124 grams of sugar, except … sugar. You’re basically eating a quarter pounder made of sugar when you’re drinking this. Like, eating an eighth of a 1kg bag of sugar is basically the same thing as drinking this. Holy fuck.

I like coffee, caffeinated drinks, etc etc. I like science and technology and bizarre nutrition (protein powders, BCAAs, etc). I didn’t know what the “safe adult limit” of caffeine was, except that you’d have to drink several cups of coffee extremely quickly. There have been days , especially at uni where I’d drink 3 large energy drinks, and feel my heart react to it and think “yeah, that’s enough”.

The “warning” on the drink is completely contextless and ignoreable. “Oh ok, it’s got caffeine in it, 389mg, wild”. No wonder the woman just grabbed it and went on with her day and died.

Also, it’s a complete waste of advertising potential. If a drink advertises “ALMOST LETHAL AMOUNTS OF CAFFEINE!” you might want to drink it more for that reason, “Charged lemonade” makes it sounds like it’s got a hint of lime in it as well as lemons.

broface ,

Sounds like you were given too much stimulation as a child and now anything less makes you uncomfortable.

UndecidedYellow ,

I figured it had more caffeine than tea but less than coffee. Clearly very wrong. Glad I didn’t drink this stuff while I was pregnant.

TokenBoomer ,

Is this lawsuit gonna drive the price of sandwiches from $15 to $30? /s

RGB3x3 ,

They’ll just make their bread even more stale and give you even smaller sandwiches for the exorbitant price.

someguy3 ,

This is a product made by Panera Bread? Lol I would not expect the store brand lemonade to be jacked on caffeine.

JustZ ,

Probably some executive’s nephew or something invented it. Absolutely a stupid idea.

jasondj ,

Nah caffeine is flavorless and addictive. You mix it in with water and a patented combination of flavors and corn syrup, and the customers just keep coming back for it.

Selling an exclusive and addictive product is a good way to gain repeat customers.

Hell serious caffeine addicts will see this headline and plan to head to Panera at some point this week to check it out. No different than when heroin gets cut with fentanyl. Maybe somebody dies, but more junkies just want to chase that high.

subignition ,
@subignition@kbin.social avatar

It's not entirely flavorless, it has a slightly bitter taste, but generally if you're at the point where you are noticing the taste you are either in severe trouble or you've done something like put a 100mg caffeine pill in plain water.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

I take caffeine pills to regulate my dose (400mg / day, no more or less) and can’t take pills without chewing em. Pure caffeine tastes like giga-bitter dogshit. Nom nom.

subignition ,
@subignition@kbin.social avatar

I respect your grit, lol. I have 200mg caffeine pills but they don't play too nicely with my stomach, so I keep them as a backup. I usually mix soda water with Costco brand energy shots for a comparable amount of caffeine which doesn't cause issues for me for whatever reason.

someguy3 ,

I’ve always wondered why caffeine pills don’t do better if that’s the goal. I think it’s more about the drink, not caffeine.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

It’s not flavorless, it’s bitter. You just can’t taste it over the pound of sugar.

lingh0e ,

That was my exact same thought. Like, I had no idea they had a caffeinated lemonade, let alone a lemonade that was a beverage version of an energy pill they sell behind the counter at the gas station.

KidsTryThisAtHome ,
@KidsTryThisAtHome@lemmy.world avatar

They call it charged lemonade and they advertised it as being all natural and healthy too. Despite having more caffeine than their coffee or monster/red bull

SheeEttin ,

It’s the same as their coffee. Same as the dark roast, anyway, and less caffeine per ounce than the light roast.

Grandwolf319 ,

Why not just call it lemonade coffee or lemonade energy drink? Lemonade is not suppose to have caffeine.

someguy3 ,

“Charged” is definitely not enough.

arefx ,

Could be charged with anything, like fruit flavor, extra sugar, suggested max daily doses of caffeine for healthy individuals, ya know, anything.

Cannacheques ,

Boosted lol

variaatio ,

Whatever it is called with that kind of caffeine content you warning label it with listing of exactly how much caffeine it has. Well maybe unless it is named literally “coffee” and is plain brewed coffee and at that brewed coffee with the normal levels of caffeine coffee contains.

Ones frappe, whippazino also better have needed labels in cases, since given all they mix how the heck one is to know what exactly is the contents. Oh this is extra special “angry frappe” with double squared shot expresso, so exactly how much caffeine is that dear seller per one glass? I just thought you put chili in it or something to make it “angry”, but has literally multiple times more caffeine content.

This is why all the energy drinks atleast where I live have the ever present “contains high amount of caffeine x mg/100ml”.

You sell something like that as counter served item with no packaging label to read, well now your menu list must contains at minimum highlights. Something like “our special drunk (HC)” and then somewhere on the menu there reads “HC means high in caffeine”. Then obviously at the counter must be a full labeling booklet of “here is our every product from the plainest brewed coffee to our jumbo mega sandwich and special brew beverage with full nutritional information and ingredients”

Just like one can’t sell say a pastry in cafe with nut creme filling with out having a big marker on all the menus “contains nuts, nut allergies bevare”. Since similarly nut allergic consuming nuts can be life threatening, well for some people consuming caffeine isn’t healthy and must be disclosed.

Neve8028 ,

Whatever it is called with that kind of caffeine content you warning label it with listing of exactly how much caffeine it has.

They have always had signage directly on the dispenser with the caffeine content.

…greenmatters.com/…/panera-charged-lemonade-lawsu…

MickeySwitcherooney ,

Problem is I don’t think the average person knows caffeine dosage. It should really say “As much caffeine as four coffees” or “a fuckload of caffeine” not “400mg caffeine”.

Neve8028 ,

It’s the same amount of caffeine as coffee has. It literally says it on the sign.

LilB0kChoy ,

A regular cup of Cafe Blend Dark Roast Coffee at Panera, has 268 mg for a 20-oz cup.

Neve8028 ,

Ok so it actually has less caffeine then because the lemonade has 260mg/20 fl oz. Are you looking at the calorie count by mistake? Either way, a 8mg difference isn’t that significant because different coffees will have variations in caffeine content along the same lines.

abraxas ,

No he’s repeating the argument the family’s lawyer made. That a butt-fucking-massive megapint (sorry Depp) of this has more caffeine than a little cup of the lowest-caffeine-content hot coffee.

People are forgetting that she got a large, and if she knew it was caffeinated, they have no case and nobody should be bitching this “not nearly as strong as light-roast-coffee” beverage is on the mean streets with hard drugs like pop rocks and pez.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

When you have health concerns like the girl did, these are things you really should be aware of on your own. Like I can’t have grapefruit juice because of the meds I take, but I don’t demand large signage on everything that might have some in it.

pokemaster787 ,

What it should say is “Contains 98% of the FDA’s daily recommended maximum caffeine dosage, do not drink other caffeinated beverages in the same day”

PurplePropagule ,

Sure, if you want to put that label on most coffees as well since the lemonade has the same caffeine per ml. Then you get to the point of having everything labeled so everyone will naturally ignore it.

abraxas ,

Correction, 2/3 the caffeine per ml of most coffees.

It’s downright reasonable for a regular-driver beverage if you don’t have a heart problem.

abraxas ,

“As much caffeine as four coffees”

They’d be sued in a heartbeat. It has less caffeine than a large iced coffee at the most popular chain in the US. It has as much caffeine as a medium ice coffee. Served in a cup the size of a large iced coffee. I’m sure they were very careful about being accused of the opposite of what happened.

broface ,
  1. It’s not coffee.
  2. “Energy” drinks don’t give you much energy.

I don’t think you should be picking the names for things.

Let me try: “Caffeinated lemonade”

Wow.

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