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TvanBuuren ,

Without reading I thought he was a poor man’s Nick Fury cosplay…

some_guy ,

The degree of rot keeps getting more and more astounding. I say this as someone who is completely unsurprised. Contradiction? Yeah. Both are true at the same time.

Yewb ,

Some of those at work forces are the same that burn crosses

ImpossibleRubiksCube ,

You got to do what they told 'ja.

Osirus ,

Oh boy, more old lame reddit references. The hero we need…

daed ,

Oh boy, that guy that’s real fun at parties. The hero we need…

It’s a rage reference man. If it was used on Reddit previously, okay, but you’re reaching to write your own narrative. Reddit sucks. Move on.

Osirus ,

You are a tool bag.

daed ,

I was kind of a tool bag there. I’m sorry. Guess I’m just tired of of half the comments on Lemmy involving reddit somehow. It’ll die down eventually I’m sure.

blady_blah ,

Do you guys not remember how the SS “accidentally” deleted all the texts from SS agents on the day of Jan 6th? “Whoops! Our bad!” Heads should have rolled big time!

orrk ,

the Secret Service unironically is the reason the insurrectionists didn’t reach the senators/reps

roboticide ,

Why are they getting credit? It was capital police who finally opened fire when the rioters got to the hallway with the congressional offices.

orrk ,

the Secret Service were the ones inside, who for example shot out into the hallway from the door of the senate when the MAGA traitors tried to storm the senate chambers

roboticide ,

Unless you’ve got a source I’m not familiar with, the only time anyone opened fire on the protestors was in the hall where Ashley Babbitt died, and that was confirmed to be Capital Police.

JoJoGAH ,

I thought the same thing, these guys had a lot of confidence in doing what they did. They must have had that confidence for a reason,. It also explains the appearance of not having an end plan, if they believed the next stage was not their part of the coup. The next part of the plan we may never actually learn but damn we need to find out where the government has been compromised.

Poob ,

Cops regularly reach out to far right groups for information

BeautifulMind ,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

Also, far right groups recruit cops and ex-military. The venn diagram of law enforcement to right-wing militia groups has a lot of overlap.

Locuralacura ,

It’s a circle.

ShaggySnacks ,

Well, colour me surprised 9 ways to Sunday and fuck me sideways. You don’t say that police attend to associate with right wing terrorists. /s

cloud ,

Government is not your friend

gowan ,
@gowan@reddthat.com avatar

Then these agents need to be removed immediately and investigated for sedition.

Gork ,

Shouldn’t background checks for Top Secret clearances that involve employees in closer contact with important government officials screen out those with links to radical ideologies?

LordOfTheChia , (edited )

There’s a question on the SF-86

news.clearancejobs.com/…/extremist-groups-and-you…

The vetting can be done as was done with the National Guard deployed to DC:

rand.org/…/what-the-capitol-siege-means-for-the-f…

Even National Guard members deployed to serve as an extra layer of security at the inauguration were vetted by the FBI to ensure no infiltration by potential insider threats; 12 National Guard members were removed due to security concerns. One Army reservist with a current security clearance and access to a naval munitions depot in New Jersey was also arrested in connection with the assault on the Capitol.

grue ,

Bold of you to assume the Trump administration would’ve been screening them out.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

It feels like one of the flaws in the system is that, while we’d want the agents who surround the president to be vetted more than almost anyone else, it’s the executive branch that’s responsible and apparently the president can give the okay for someone who doesn’t otherwise pass, as we saw happen for his kids. What’s to stop a corrupt president from having corrupt USSS agents?

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Just praetorian things.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Ha.

LarryTheMatador ,

Remember the secret service deleted all their text messages and communications at request from the whitehouse? Remember pence was terrified to get in the car with them and refused?

kandoh ,

Remember Champ biting specific members of the secret service?

Dogs know. Dogs always know.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Yeah, that’s why some rip kids’ faces off, they all deserve it.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Also why they shit on grass. They know.

grue ,

!fucklawns is leaking (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures

sheilzy ,

That was actually Major, their younger dog at the time. Champ was their elderly dog who died a couple years ago. They since got a younger pup, Commander, and he too, has been biting staffers, but I don’t know if they revealed which agencies the victims work for. Maybe Commander is copying what his elder brother does, but iirc Major doesn’t live in the White House too often nowadays. He might just have the same intuition.

athos77 ,

Do we have any proof that the messages were deleted on the instruction of the White House? I've always thought they arranged the mass-deletion on their own - but it was a very busy time and I might well have missed the bit about them being ordered to delete them.

themeatbridge ,

Well it helped Trump, was against policy, and they answered to him.

athos77 ,

All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that.

RegularGoose ,

What’s more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it?

TechnoBabble ,

If they used SMS those records are still around.

Or did they use something else?

chakan2 ,
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

This is likely bullshit, your milage may vary…but I though they used encrypted black berries. Its on a private network/vpn separate from civilian traffic.

It seems like Trump threw a fit about it at one time.

themeatbridge ,

The proof is they wouldn’t have done it if they had not been told.

SnowdropDelusion ,

In case anyone, like me, wants a source for Pence refusing to get in the car with the Secret Service. It’s from the book “I Alone Can Fix It.”

washingtonpost.com/…/pence-car-raskin-comments/

The “terrified” part is speculation, but potentially true.

FlashMobOfOne ,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds to me like Pence was tipped off.

kandoh ,

I wonder if they would have used ‘the VP has been kidnapped by Antifa!’ as justification for the insurrection act.

QHC ,

They were chanting “hang Pence” and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear.

Tedesche ,

Wow. So much for background checks.

gravitas_deficiency ,

They did the background checks - just not in the way most people expected.

cowfodder ,

Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses

UltraMagnus0001 ,

raisedfistshirts.com/…/some-of-those-who-work-for…

some_designer_dude ,

Bad bot.

UltraMagnus0001 ,

not a bot. I remember getting a shirt and was excited because its related

ImpossibleRubiksCube ,

It’s an old RATM song.

bernieecclestoned , (edited )

Otherwise known as being undercover?

Edit. I think I confused the SS with the FBI

nytimes.com/…/oath-keepers-trial-january-6.html

norbert ,
@norbert@kbin.social avatar

Nope, it says "unofficial" in the article.

This fuck was an Oath Keeper himself.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

In the actual emails it says “unofficial (leaning toward official) liaison.”

Undercover? It was no cover, straight treason.

bernieecclestoned ,

Yeah, I was thinking of the FBI

WASHINGTON — An F.B.I. informant who was embedded for months in the inner circle of Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers militia, is likely to testify as a defense witness at the seditious conspiracy trial of Mr. Rhodes in connection with the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The informant, Greg McWhirter, served as the Oath Keepers’ vice president but was secretly reporting to the F.B.I. about the group’s activities in the weeks and months leading up to the Capitol attack, according to two people familiar with the matter.

nytimes.com/…/oath-keepers-trial-january-6.html

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