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‘Clearly chicken you weirdo’: People respond to JD Vance sharing video he claims shows migrants grilling cats

Republican vice-presidential candidate Senator JD Vance continues to stoke outrage against foreign-born members of his own constituency, sharing video footage with his 1.9 million social media followers that he claimed showed African migrants in Dayton, Ohio “eating cats” — but instead appears to show nothing more than poultry cooking on an outdoor grill.

“Kamala Harris and her media apparatchiks should be ashamed of themselves,” Vance posted Saturday on X, the social network formerly known as Twitter. “Another ‘debunked’ story that turned out to have merit.”

Vance has claimed, falsely, in recent days that Haitians — who are not Africans — living in Springfield — a town of 58,000 which is not Dayton — were stealing, killing, and consuming their neighbors’ pets.

suzune ,

US politics is hilarious. Why do you even waste time on those dumbasses? Go and do productive things. You have lots of time while this crazy trumpy shit is going on.

lolcatnip ,

Because we’re fucking terrified of them winning.

suzune ,

I wouldn’t like to be paralyzed in terror. It’s not reasonable and not useful. I would be wise to think what to do instead.

lolcatnip ,

Get back to us when when your country is a hair’s breadth from being taken over by a fascist dictator.

suzune ,

Actively doing something useful is what I suggested. It has already been communicated that the entire topic is bullshit.

Talking inside the bubble is not helpful anymore. There is no one listening here who could change an opinion about Trump.

dubious ,

this a thousand times over.

Fridgeratr ,

Did you know: people can do more than one thing

dubious ,

I would be wise to think what to do instead.

THIS^ this is the statement that needs to be repeated over and over in leftist american circles.

i think if we worked on this instead of endless whining and worrying, the problem would be gone by now. the solutions are simple. sorry you got downvoted. you didn’t deserve it.

schnurrito ,

Lots of people were 100% convinced in 2016 that there was no way Trump could win. I know because, TBH, I was one of them. So I don’t think it’s anywhere near out of the question that Trump might win this year; I do not know it, neither do you, neither does anyone else.

Phoenicianpirate ,

Because ignoring them will only allow them to grow larger and stronger unchecked. It’s like talking about ignoring an obvious stalker who is clearly building a plan on your daily movements and knows exactly where you live and when you leave/return home. They can be a remarkably stupid person but they will eventually find the perfect opportunity to strike and you will never be able to get any justice for it.

That is literally something that happened to me. More than once.

Burn_The_Right ,

There is no such thing as an “honest conservative”. No such thing.

elrik ,

You know what would be great, would be to hold these weirdos liable for the time and expense that public agencies have incurred to deal with the bomb threats and idiots they’ve directly incited.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

it would be so much work to stalk, kill, prep and eat someone’s dog or cat. people don’t even keep their pets outside much anymore. If people had pigs or some larger, meatier pets kept outside all hours at least it’d be a more realistic lie but like c’mon… who’s out there with fuggen ninja cat hunting skills? What are they using to quietly and efficiently kill these pets? Who even got that kinda time?

If this dumb cluck had any sense he’d say they were buying pups from PetSmart or breeding them themselves to eat or something. That lie would at least be in the realm of possibility! Nobody’s pets would have to disappear before an idiot believed it!

Fucking loser can’t even stoke hate properly

futatorius ,

Seriously, there’s better eating on a pigeon, and they’re easier to catch.

Badeendje , (edited )
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

Uhm, a raccoon trap is also a cat trap. Easy enough to setup. Hell even the wile-e-coyote style trap with a stick and a rope will work if you use proper bait.

Edit: Haitians don’t eat pets people! I was just responding to the guy with his cat hunt.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Are there even raccoons in haiti though?

Revan343 ,

Stalking a cat would be hard, but trapping one is easy.

The reason people don’t eat their neighbors’ cats isn’t because it’d be difficult, it’s because most people aren’t absolute psychopaths like JD Vance

Phoenicianpirate ,

They don’t CARE about the facts or how absurd their claims are. Also pet eating is something that, in times past, was a racist slur foisted onto Asians, like Chinese restaurants who cooked cat instead of beef or chicken, and more specifically Koreans, who did consume dog meat sparingly, but that was something that happened historically it was never common and dog meat consumption is actually illegal now in South Korea, and eating dog meat has been in rapid decline for decades anyway.

Seeing Haitians get called pet eaters is actually a very new thing.

SilverCode ,

Eating a dog or cat you have bred yourself would make PETA angry. Eating a beloved family pet of a true blooded hard working American would make a lot more people angry.

rsuri ,

“Another ‘debunked’ story that turned out to have merit.”

This is the most infuriating thing they do. They assume that any developing story is actually the most extreme version that favors their side. Then they ignore all evidence to the contrary and fish for any evidence that they can claim as confirmation, even if it doesn’t pass the laugh test. But they assert “It was confirmed!” with such confidence and shamelessness that it becomes easier for people to believe them, and eventually the media stops trying to debunk them.

Definitely not the first time this happened. If you wanna find other examples, look at anything where experts on the topic believe one thing but a majority of the American people believe the other. It’s pretty much guaranteed that the thing the American people believe originated as GOP propaganda.

Phoenicianpirate ,

I wish I had told myself that from 25 years ago before I went online and was exposed to these people with all the naivety of the socially underdeveloped autistic 17 year old that I was at the time. I often have to learn things in the hardest way imaginable.

_bcron ,

JD has a really weird fixation on cats. Cat ladies, grilling cats, cats cats cats. Has JD ever bummed a cat? We’ll never know but it makes me wonder

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No, it isn’t a couch.

Aurenkin ,

They are often found residing on or near couches though

dhork ,

Cat Couch

hOrni ,

JD watches Backroom Casting Couch for a different reason than most of us.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Harvey Weinstein was so disappointed.

MyOpinion ,

Cats have been known to scratch up a couch. Hummmm.

thisbenzingring ,

this is the reason

(the reason I am going to be spreading from now on hahahah)

cheese_greater ,

O my god, it all cums full circle

thesporkeffect ,

Well we know he’s gotten freaky with a dolphin so a cat seems plausible.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

JDV is like a toddler trying to trick you by hiding behind the curtains, but you can still see his Scooby Doo Velcro shoes and he’s back there giggling.

ClanOfTheOcho , (edited )

I was thinking more like an Ivy League graduate from a Lawyering the Dark Arts School of Deceptive Loopholes and Twisting, but I see your point.

Edit: added a word

twistypencil ,

People, remember how Trump presidency went! Bad news for Trump? Float a batshiit crazy thing to get the media to play with that shiny ball instead. This is a fucking distraction, Trump lost the debate, he is courting fascists, he is old and weird and people leave his rallys bored, he had to throw a stink bomb

Nuke_the_whales ,

I see no way in which this benefits him

kibiz0r , (edited )

The topic does not matter.

The assertion at hand does not matter.

Whether anyone believes the assertion does not matter.

The only thing that matters is: Are you playing offense or defense?

Cuz attacking looks like winning. And explaining looks like losing.

youtu.be/wmVkJvieaOA

lolcatnip ,

*courting other fascists

Samvega ,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism

Stochastic terrorism is political violence that has been instigated by hostile public rhetoric which is directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished by using indirect, vague, or coded language that allows the instigator to plausibly disclaim responsibility for the resulting violence.[1] A key element is the use of social media and other distributed forms of communications where the person who carries out the violence has no direct connection to the users of violent rhetoric.[2]

protist ,

They’re also purposefully leaning into this to keep the conversation about immigration, because it’s pretty much the only issue they have had an advantage on. Without Trump talking about eating pets, we’d all be talking about his abortion stance right now, which is deeply unpopular.

nulluser ,

Democrats need to respond by making the story about why Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill.

TransplantedSconie ,

Exactly. Those ads should be in every commercial break in the swing states.

apfelwoiSchoppen , (edited )
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

That bill was a super republican bill, I honestly do not know why the Democrats keep bragging about this as if every “bipartisan” bill has merit. The Overton Window continues to shift right. Just because the vociferous Republicans spouted incorrect information about the bill, that doesn’t make the quality of actual bill have any merit. I’m ashamed that any democrat thought this"immigration" reform bill was something worth fighting for. It is an anti immigration package that gives significantly more money and power to homeland security. It focused on funding border walls, detention centers, increasing the burden of proof required for asylum seekers, among others. It is a horrendous bill that cares little for immigrants.

PlasticExistence ,

That only underscores the point of advertising their refusal to pass it: it should have fully satisfied Republicans and given them most of what they want, but the Orange Shit Stain said not to pass it so they could complain about immigration during the election.

Democrats should use it as a loud and constant example of how Republicans are not leaders and have no solutions for America.

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, you shouldn’t work with them on such heinous human rights abusing packages. That is what it underscores to me. If anyone actually read the bill, we might critically push back on the Democrats and make positive change instead of this bipartisan rivalry nonsense. It serves the status quo, not any of us. If the bill had any merit , I’d be totally with you on that point.

PlasticExistence ,

You’re not understanding me. Yes, the bill was awful and should not have had their support.

So given that, what exactly is the Republican justification for not supporting it? That needs to be highlighted so that perhaps enough GOP voters just stay home on election day - especially in swing states.

Like it or not, Republicans must not win this election so that our democracy survives. We will have lots of work to do after the election to push the Democrats back to supporting the average person and not the rich, but that’s the next fight and not this one!

Hold your nose and vote for democracy.

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I understand you. I don’t think you understand that voting for Democratics and criticizing them is more than OK, it is necessary.

PlasticExistence ,

That bill was a super republican bill, I honestly do not know why the Democrats keep bragging about this as if every “bipartisan” bill has merit.

I’ve been attempting to respond to your original comment. The Democrats are not using this to brag. They are using it to highlight the failures of the Republican party.

I walked around knocking on doors in an unfriendly neighborhood for Bernie Sanders, so you don’t need to talk to me about criticizing Democrats or wanting them to move left.

apfelwoiSchoppen , (edited )
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

This is the current climate of this discussion in most Democrat circles, whether you care to see it or not. And I’m not criticizing you, but thank you for knocking on doors. ✌️

Viking_Hippie ,

Yeah, because advertising that you used a social murder bill to bluff with makes you sound SUPER sympathetic to the people who would have died if fascists had called your bluff 🙄

PlasticExistence ,

I don’t think it was a bluff, unfortunately. Neither do I think they should not criticize the Republicans for their behavior.

kent_eh ,

The point is that it was agreed to by both parties and Trump still had it killed so the mere concept of cooperatively working with the other party got thrown out the window.

It is important to keep reminding people that Trump refuses to do anything (or even allow things to be done) that doesn’t serve his own personal goals . He will actively prevent things from happening if that serves him better, regardless of the consequences to anyone else.

Viking_Hippie , (edited )

I honestly do not know why the Democrats keep bragging about this as if every “bipartisan” bill has merit

Because it’s what they do. To the Dem leadership, bipartisanship is the highest achievement in politics, no matter how awful the actual content.

If you could demonstrate bipartisan backing, they’d gladly declare this flag from Community the new national flag of the United States:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a3aa66d1-f525-4e81-996f-bff3b4b73d0b.png

In fact, both that flag and the “Human Being” mascot (pictured below, middle) of the school’s football team are parodies of the way Dem leadership operates.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/01bf1628-0a4a-4ef7-a628-c212a27f106c.png

ashok36 ,

This is it. If were talking about immigrants not eating pets, we’re not talking about how Harris whooped trumps ass.

kent_eh ,

Baffling to think that such blatant and easily disproven lies can be beneficial to their cause.

callouscomic ,

This whole “weirdo” thing is idiotic. It’s handling them with kid gloves rather than underscoring they are fucking evil and want to do evil things.

SpacetimeMachine ,

I view it as a great insult for them. Conservatives want nothing more than to be “normal.” They rely so much on the feeling of safety they get by being part of the “normal” crowd. If you called me weird I would embrace that label. I am weird! I’m not like everyone else and I like that about myself! For them that is not at all the case. The more we can make them think that what they are doing is NOT accepted by society and that we all think they are weird the more likely they are to stop doing it.

InEnduringGrowStrong ,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

In their ideology, if you’re not “normal”, you’re in one of the othered groups and your face becomes a fair target for their favorite face-eating leopards.

andyburke ,
@andyburke@fedia.io avatar

No, you see, they project about everything.

They absolutely hope they are "normal."

Their whole ideology is based on group conformity.

expr ,

It’s been massively effective and has put them on the defensive in a way no other criticism ever has.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

People have spent close to a decade trying to convince everyone that Trump is evil and wants to do evil things. How well has that worked out?

ryven ,
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Also, as a huge weirdo myself, I had kind of thought that most people stopped caring how weird I am after high school, and I thought that was pretty neat. Now that it has become a favorite insult to use against fascists, I get the feeling that people only refrain from remarking on it because they’re being polite to me, but they definitely still care and would wield it as a weapon given half a reason to.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

weirdo is good, us stressing about their evil isn’t getting us anywhere

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Wow. They are really going over the deep end on this. How could this possibly help them win votes?

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

Backtracking equals flip-flopping, and then it's a slippery slope to learning and growing and admitting you were wrong.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You’re probably right. And if they’re going to keep swimming towards the bottom of the pool, I really want journalists to start asking them why Haitians are eating pets. Because that’s the part that they haven’t actually made clear.

Haitians don’t eat dogs and cats in Haiti. The Haitians in Springfield aren’t starving, most of them have jobs. So why are they eating them, JD?

CM400 ,

JD isn’t talking to people who think stuff through like that, he’s talking to racists and they don’t care if it’s true or not, it gives them an excuse to feel that way.

TransplantedSconie ,

They need to send Jose Maria Del Pino, the reporter who kicked Stephen Miller right in his whataboutism. That dude was relentless and would not fall for his shit.

JD would be fucked.

ChairmanMeow ,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

Dude has an accent in his voice, ergo he’s “biased” according to the loonies.

_bcron ,

Advisors in meeting: “We have a clear path to 270 as long as they focus on single issue voters who care most ab-”

Trump interrupts everyone to talk about how boring this meeting is, invites everyone to order McDonald’s with him.

JD rubs chin pensively, thinking about a single issue to focus on, something easy which does not involve walking into a donut shop

ThePowerOfGeek ,
@ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world avatar

They are too used to the typical news cycle where they bombard the public with lies to the point where everyone starts believing those are real. They’ve grown complacent.

twistypencil ,

It’s a distraction, classic Trump move to get you to look at something else

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

A distraction from what? What is overt, disgusting racism distract from in any helpful way?

catloaf ,

It gets them angry and supporting Republican anti-immigrant positions, instead of thinking about the issues that actually affect them, like why Steward Health Care was allowed to buy hospitals, squeeze as much money out of them as possible, give the CEO $250m, and then go bankrupt, leaving hundreds of people without healthcare.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You think people don’t think about the dire financial straits they are in because Trump and Vance are being racists? And somehow that helps Trump get elected?

None of that makes any sense.

catloaf ,

When someone is out of work, and the media tells them it’s because of immigrants stealing their jobs, and not because of private equity squeezing companies to death for profit, yes, it helps Trump and the Republicans get elected.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The media isn’t telling them that. The media is telling them that isn’t true. Trump and Vance and their surrogates are telling them that. Trump was literally corrected in the debate.

catloaf ,

foxnews.com/…/tyson-hiring-migrants-laying-off-us…

Here, an instance of media, in the “immigrants are taking your jobs” category. It demonizes Tyson while conveniently ignoring that Republicans haven’t done a damn thing for labor in my lifetime.

I do not have the spoons necessary to bring you up to speed on everything that’s happened in politics in the past few decades that you should already know. Honestly, I feel like I’m getting sealioned here.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Fox News is your instance? Yes, the network that has Trump’s back all the time still has Trump’s back.

Fox News is one media outlet and mostly, again, one that the MAGA faithful consume.

And even then- they aired the debate. People heard the fact check.

YourNetworkIsHaunted ,

And those people are being told that the moderators were lugenpresse who were on the wrong side and want to protect criminals over your dog as part of their something something woke. The fact that the lamestream media keeps talking about how false it is and going to increasingly desperate lengths to deny it must mean we’re onto them.

This is how the propaganda works. This is such a blatant lie that it should be a simple fact-check, but since that doesn’t actually change anyone’s mind all the attempt does is keep everyone talking about immigration, an issue that fires up the right-wing base and exhausts a lot of their opponents. You’re absolutely right that we shouldn’t be still talking about whether this is true or not, but focusing on how weird and dumb this conspiracy theory is getting. That’s why the “weirdo” tack has been working for Harris in this campaign, and it’s unfortunate that the headlines have lost interest.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, again, those are the MAGA faithful. Trump needs more than them to win.

I didn’t think I’d get to use this again so quickly:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/71a321c0-2557-419a-a25d-dd32849bd603.png

He just needs to lose by a small margin. And that’s absolutely possible no matter what Fox News tells his fans.

catloaf ,

Sure. And then we continue with the “stolen election” bullshit, and Republicans still win other elections in Congress and state races. There’s more here than just whether the president has a little D or R next to their name.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

We were specifically talking about Trump.

catloaf ,

It’s not exclusive to Trump. The post itself is about Vance.

futatorius ,

His dithering, weak, incoherent performance in the debate? Or is that already forgotten?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But he literally talked about this in the debate…

cabron_offsets ,

I don’t think this is going to help at all. Black people are going to be pissed.

Yerbouti ,

Liberals likes to eat baby cats. Prove me wrong. See I won you lose, end of the story.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Clearly projection

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/f2db0fd9-ceb4-4046-a83a-aa205d764d14.jpeg

Tikiporch ,

Offering a $5000 bounty for video proof is the same as paying $5000 for someone to manufacture the proof. This is like a Cobra bounty in India only results in Cobra farms.

Nuke_the_whales ,

I hope the people in the video sue the fuck out of him

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