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Soup ,

I was hoping to find something explaining why they weren’t employees previously. They drive Amazon branded vehicles, are called Amazon drivers, don’t seem to be doing anything else, and don’t seem to have been hired externally by another firm.

So how in the fuck were they not employees?! This is crazy, I hope Amazon gets royally fucked in some why they might actually feel.

tiefling ,

Large corporations like to hire people as temps or independent contractors so they can give them all the responsibility of an actual employee but none of the benefits

Looking at you, Google

blanketswithsmallpox ,

RIP employment agencies.

subignition ,
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fuck employment agencies tho, they're unnecessary middlemen the same way for-profit health insurers are.

Cosmonauticus ,

Just a way to get out of those pesky workers rights like insurance, paid sick days/vacation days, OSHA, and child labor laws

Frozengyro ,

And both the company and employment agency have incentives to keep the “temp” as a temp for as long as humanly possible…

Brkdncr ,

Probably let them pick the hours they worked. If the money is good and its not abused it can be beneficial to the independent contractor. I think fedex works this way.

ricecake ,

They usually don’t. There’s been increasing lawsuits over classifying employees as contractors because you can’t just call someone a contractor and have them suddenly be excluded from a lot of labor laws.

frezik ,

Right. There’s very clear rules on this. Generally, if you only have one “client”, they set your hours, and/or control your vacation time, you’re an employee. If you’re a real contractor, then companies only have loose control over you.

tpihkal ,

They’re called “Amazon Freight Partners”. Amazon sells you one of their trucks with $0 down and no driver experience required so you can “start your own business”.

Then, you work as an independent contractor for Amazon. All you have to do is w/e they tell you since you have a truck to pay for.

RippleEffect ,

Well that sounds like a creative way to be screwed over.

TheReturnOfPEB , (edited )

FedEx ground is the same way. Not FedEx employees; owned by third parties. FedEx knows that in shipping the final mile tends to be the most expensive so they push it to the smaller more vulnerable guys.

ricecake ,

In this case they’re employees of a “delivery service partner”.

It’s roughly the same thing, except instead of driving a semitruck, you’re hired as a contractor to hire and manage the delivery drivers, do everything Amazon tells you, and make sure your drivers do everything Amazon tells them as well.
That way Amazon can pressure you into abusing the driver’s and claim it wasn’t them, it’s just that they hire terrible contractors. Refuse to negotiate because they don’t work for them.

Which, quite clearly, isn’t a thing you’re allowed to do, since even if your employees get their checks from someone else they’re still your employees since all the work they do is for you.

ricecake ,

Companies will often label someone a contractor so that they land in a different employment bucket and don’t get standard employee benefits.
It’s very clearly an abuse of the concept of a contractor, but sometimes companies break the law, intentionally or unintentionally.

www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/flsa/misclassification

comador ,
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Now watch some Federal Judge or SCOTUS come back and say the NLRB has no authority to do this like they just did to the FCC.

Mouselemming ,

Or if the Wrong Wing wins they’ll just eliminate the NLRB

Snapz ,

Supercommute that you dicks!

jaggedrobotpubes ,

It’s hard to be excited about a court understanding that an obvious lie is obviously a lie, but it’s definitely good news.

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