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Nuke_the_whales ,

Does RFK only get to vote once? Or does the brain worm get a vote too?

socsa ,

Who saw this coming?

plz1 ,

The fact that her name isn’t prevalent enough for the headline vs. “RFK Jr. Running Mate” tells me this won’t matter.

fubarx ,

If the Kennedy campaign dropped out, Shanahan said she’d consider running for governor of California.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/984d20dc-c843-4a65-885e-667e8121518a.gif

Nuke_the_whales ,

I can hear this gif

DogPeePoo ,

All 6 of them

mathemachristian ,

I mean he always was supposed to be the spoiler candidate to bleed votes of the dems, but seems that lately they are, if anything bleeding votes of the reps, so their donors are probably redirecting them.

dhork ,

So what Cabinet position did Trump offer him? My bet is on AG.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

John Oliver said Trump was considering making him HHS secretary.

MegaUltraChicken ,

An anti-vaxer as HHS secretary is a public health policy nightmare.

SeaJ ,

That has happened in Florida where DeSantis installed an anti vaxxer.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown ,

Natural resources. One morning someone will find Smokey in the national mall; victim to an apparent electric scooter hit and run.

uberdroog ,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

Where is my shocked face? I mean, who didn’t know he was a tRump operative the WHOLE time. This shit is so desperate. They are just trying everything other than you know…governing for the people.

nilloc ,

The Trump team thought he was gonna pull more votes from the Dems. But it turns out he was mostly the same kind of crazy as the Trumpets and was at best splitting the votes evenly. Then Harris showed up and now that even vote split could doom Trump.

Atelopus-zeteki ,

Was advised to let COVID19 run it's course, on the assumption it would be more harmful to Dems. Who could have predicted that GOP anti-vaxers / covid19 deniers would take the brunt of it? Anyone with 1/2 a brain. Still playing the same tired, callous, ignorant strategy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/did-trump-kushner-ignore-blue-state-covid-19-testing-deaths-ncna1235707
"Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner's team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. "The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy," said the expert."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/21/donald-trump/trump-says-he-prevented-2-million-covid-19-deaths-/

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

I get why Kamala wouldn’t want him in the administration, but did she even consider it? Like… his housing policy wasn’t bad. Let’s say he brought 3% more voters. That could have been significant. 3% could definitely help beat Kamala with a race this close. I don’t like the guy… and honestly, despite it not being his fault I just can’t stand listening to him speak. I’m wondering now if Trump is actually going to kick JD to the curb.

bstix ,

Think more down the line. Having a 3% middle man would be rather annoying, because whatever the other parties come up with needs to be approved by the 3% over and over, to make a majority, making the 3% the most powerful position.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

3% is basically the lizardman constant. You can’t assume that voters will so readily jump from one candidate to the other.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

3% is significant. He had like 8 or 9% prior to Biden dropping out. I know he can’t sway all his voters and so that is why I suggested maybe 3%.

zelifcam ,
@zelifcam@lemmy.world avatar

There’s something wrong with him. Clearly any sane person would avoid that situation.

Beacon ,

He potentially could've caused LOST votes if she took him in. He is very unpopular.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

I guess… its a possibility, but very unlikely that Democrats would vote for Trump cause she was having conversations with him. Democrats talk to Republicans all the time and don’t lose votes. Sometimes you have to even work with people you don’t agree with… Imagine that.

mosiacmango , (edited )

They are nakedly admitting that they will drop out because they are inexplicably pulling more GOP votes than DNC votes.

There’s two options that we’re looking at,” she said. “One is staying in, forming that new party; but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris and Walz presidency because we draw votes from Trump. We draw, somehow, more votes from Trump.

“Or we walk away right now and join forces with Donald Trump; and we walk away from that and we explain to our base why we’re making this decision… Not an easy decision.”

The fact that they were very clearly running to spoil Dems is a good reason not to offer them powerful positions in a Harris admin.

MyOpinion ,

All the rats jumping onto the same ship. I like it.

expatriado ,

a rat vote still worth 1 vote, i would rather keep them in different ships

dogslayeggs ,

I get the appeal of Trump. I don’t like it and can’t fathom being the kind of person who would vote for him, but I understand why people vote for him.

I don’t get Kennedy at all. Is it purely Q people still thinking he is the next savior or some shit?

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Kennedy has been a Democrat most of his life. He helped Obama & supported Hillary. He’s definitely done some weird things, but most Democrats would have called him an ally up until his presidential run. Trump has always been a con man. If you get why people support Trump more than why they’d support Kennedy, then I’d say that says more about you than him.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He’s definitely done some weird things, but most Democrats would have called him an ally up until his presidential run.

Bullshit. He was vocally antivax. People who didn’t know that before sure found out during COVID.

Also, people consider someone less of an ally when they find out about things like the dead bear and the brain worms.

some_guy ,

He has a body count. He used his celebrity to get the MMR vax paused in Samoa and kids died from a measles outbreak. It turned out the kids who’d died after getting vaxxed were poisoned by poorly-prepared vaxes rather than the vax itself. He takes no responsibility for this.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Weird… why did the Biden campaign enlist Robert De Niro to help with events? Does that mean Biden was antivax, and that Kamala said she loves an antivaxer during the first day of the DNC convention?

Also… leaving a dead bear that someone hit with their vehicle in a park is messed up, but sending weapons to a country that has killed 30k+ women & children is normal?

Last, you do realize brain worms is like a serious medical condition? Like… should Democrats now platform on being disabled or a paraplegic disbars them from being an ally?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Is Robert DeNiro an antivaxxer?

And are you actually accusing Democrats of ableism because they don’t trust a guy who had WORMS IN HIS BRAIN to be in politics?

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Yes Robert DeNiro was alongside RFK Jr at his vaccine safety press event offering money to show it was safe to inject mercury utilized in many vaccines at the time.

And yes it is ableism. Why does it matter that he had worms? Biden has had multiple brain surgeries due to aneurisms.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Would you say it was ableism to not trust someone with Alzheimer’s too? It’s a disability after all. Should someone with Alzheimer’s be considered an important political ally?

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Who has Alzheimers?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You do understand the concept of a hypothetical question, don’t you? How about you answer it?

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

You do? Is it a serious hypothetical? Like… you get to judge and say Diane Feinstein is fine while rolling her around in a wheelchair and speaking for her? Or that Biden is fine too… perfectly capable of being President until January even though he’s had multiple brain surgeries and literally couldn’t finish a sentence in a debate with Trump? Oh, but this guy that ran his own independent campaign and got almost 10%… he said he had a worm in his brain. That is too much for me… definitely unfit!

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Rather than make assumptions about me and who I wish to remain in office, how about you answer my question?

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

I did answer it. RFK Jr. is perfectly capable of being an ally for Democrats, way more so than many of the same representatives that Democrats have relied on.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That has nothing to do with what I asked you about trusting someone with Alzheimer’s to be a political ally. I think you are refusing to answer the question because the obvious answer undermines your ableism point.

rand_alpha19 ,

Look, there's a reason why people who use wheelchairs aren't running track events. Disability is a spectrum, but let's not pretend that it doesn't actually prevent people from doing things.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Like Dianne Feinstein or Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Did that stop Democrats from supporting them?

Chocrates ,

Person you are replying to may be referring to decades ago. I think the country’s brain broke in the last decade

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I guess so, because pretty much the first thing everyone associates with RFK Jr. is him being against vaccination.

Chocrates ,

I don’t even remember the start of this conversation but I went and double checked, looks like RFK has been anti vax since at least 2005, so I think my argument is wrong
www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics/…/index.html

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I thought the start was basically me saying he’s been antivaxx for years and you agreeing? But maybe I misunderstood.

geekwithsoul ,

Since he went all in on antivax and conspiracy stuff, Dems have known he’s a weird/crazy dude. Which is a damn shame, as pre-brain worms, he was a kick-ass environmental lawyer. Dude is clearly not all there and hasn’t been for decades.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

He attended the vaccination safety events Robert De Niro… who the Biden campaign then enlisted. I’m not saying he’s right by any means. I think it is fine to question vaccine safety, especially when big pharma has so much influence in politics, but obviously he’s made statements that were far too extreme without supporting medical evidence.

Regardless… Christians believing in make believe stuff that would normally be considered mental illness is as conspiracy-based to me as RFK Jr, so by all means if you think that saying crazy shit means you can never be an ally… then I guess you’ve never ran for state government.

geekwithsoul ,

Wow, an RFK Jr apologist!

<crosses off on bingo card>

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Does that mean you’re pro-genocide? Why the hyperbole? Why so offended when someone speaks truth?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And it’s apparently ableism to say that the brain worms make him someone who maybe shouldn’t be listened to.

nilloc ,

He said his brainwork was affecting his ability to make money to pay his x wife alimony.

I’d think that would make running the United States pretty difficult too, but maybe it’s easier than everyone thinks.

mutant_zz ,

Trump may flirt with anti-vaxx sentiment or climate denial, etc., but he can’t fully support those ideas. They’re very niche and he’d lose the centre if he did.

RFK Jr doesn’t hold back on those issues. For conspiracy types he is closer to their beliefs than Trump.

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

Captain Brainworms joining forces with some Weird Felon’

Name a more cursed duo

CaptainSpaceman ,

They might gain 1%, but wont be enough if blue wave pushes again

Samvega ,

“This is our new combined mega band, Weird Criminal Brain Parasites!!!” [pyros explode, ecstatically]

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Captain Brainworms & The Weirdos is an awesome band name

nilloc ,

Or Dead Brainworm & The Creeps.

CainTheLongshot ,

Or how about Bain Dead Kennedy’s

aodhsishaj ,

Man to be a worm in that brain when they’re attempting to discuss policy, just think of how crazy the shit is they’re unwilling to say in public. Like beyond lizard people space lasers. Plus they were both buddies with OJ and Epstein so lots of horrific details I bet.

Behind the bastards would eat for a YEAR on just one committee meeting between Trump and RFK

grue ,

just think of how crazy the shit is they’re unwilling to say in public

Not quite RFK Jr. and Trump, but some other right-wing ghouls and traitors:

newrepublic.com/…/erik-prince-secret-global-group…

aodhsishaj ,

Yeah, I read a similar article. Fucking ghoulish little creep. All the murders extrajudicial killings that little asshole and his mercs have done. Don’t get me started on the Devos family. OH and the so-called journalists in that group chat as well… they all know what they’re doing and how they’re feeding a cult that may lead to civil war.

But war often never inconveniences the wealthy, and when it does, somehow a peaceful resolution isn’t far behind.

I think that’s the genius behind the the Kursk invasion. Unfortunately it got China easier access to the Japanese sea. Once China dredges the shit out of it to fit their massive coast guard cutters of course.

newsweek.com/russia-expands-far-east-links-north-…

archive.is/uH30b

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