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'Gas-station heroin' targeted in crackdowns by states and cities

  • Kratom, sometimes referred to as “gas station heroin,” is an herb with opioid- and stimulant-like effects.
  • It can be fatal in very high doses but is not subject to much federal regulation.
  • So states and cities have been banning kratom sales or enacting rules and restrictions.
cheese_greater ,

I love how the line is always people don’t know what it is or they are putting in their body…

Ok so what’s the solution?

Fucking bannit!!! No educating, no harm reduction or offering better, safer drugs we understand better.

Nope, take away their toys!

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

It’s not alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, or (depending on your locale) pot so obviously people shouldn’t be taking it. Fuckin fun police

WeirdGoesPro ,
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Has anyone here done Kratom? It’s a very light intoxicant, and when you take a little too much, you puke it up quickly and efficiently. I’m sure it’s possible to OD if you have an iron stomach, but unlike heroin (which I also have personal experience with) where a few CC’s on the needle is the difference between life and death, it takes a stupendous amount of Kratom to get even remotely close to the danger zone.

These laws restricting Kratom seem like they are designed to steer people towards pills more than enhancing public safety. Boo.

clif ,

When it got banned in my area the “expert” witness supporting the ban was someone who owned a pain management clinic that primarily prescribed pills.

… No conflict there, no siree.

cheese_greater ,

God, the absolute irony and filth

Samvega ,

I love it when corrupt shit is this transparent. I hate it that this still doesn’t matter, because nothing is done.

Postmortal_Pop ,

Kratom also has a long history of being used to treat withdraw from opiates which led to several Southeast Asia countries trying to exterminate it because the government was invested in the heroin and opium trades.

The US would be all about that.

Waveform ,

I’ve taken it for years with no issue except constipation from time to time. Kratom is about as impactful to me as an acetaminophen pill and a couple cups of coffee, which is good since I have to be careful about which substances I put into my body. I take one teaspoon infrequently. The key to taking it is to not take too much. Less=more, since higher dosages start having an inverse effect.

Articles like this one only seem to be creating hysteria where none should exist. We need more proper studies on the plant, but for now people should treat it like anything else: don’t overdo it. I mean, you wouldn’t take 15 acetaminophen tablets, and likewise you shouldn’t take dozens of grams of kratom at once.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

Yeah kratom has been catching shit for at least a decade. Despite the fact that it’s safer than alcohol and has been shown to be effective in helping opiate addicts recover. Pharma companies can’t make money off it so obviously it should be illegal

WeirdGoesPro ,
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But why can’t they? It seems like they could just grow it and cover the entire spectrum of pain management if they wanted to.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

Wish I could tell you. They didn’t do it with pot either despite it having plenty of medicinal applications. Maybe they perceive it as more of a threat than a money making opportunity? It’s less addictive than other opiates (from what I understand) and we know that addiction was part of their business model with opiates . It helps people recover from addiction in a way that doesn’t require life-long treatment so maybe it would be a net-negative in their eyes. Idk I just woke up and I’m rambling lol

HelixDab2 ,

91 national OD deaths in a year, in a country of 330M, seems… Pretty okay. That’s really not significant. “Implicated in” deaths simply isn’t the same thing at all.

FlyingSquid ,
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Maybe not a lot of ODs, but it is addictive and bad for your health long-term.

And yes, I would say the same about cigarettes. Make doctors prescribe them and taper people down slowly in conjunction with pharmaceutical help to get them to quit.

clif ,

Is it addictive? Like, physically addictive or “that was nice, I’d like to do it again” addictive? I’ve known people who used it daily for months and quit with no reported problems, side effects, withdrawals, etc. Of course, my sample size is 3 so this is anecdotal.

cheese_greater ,

I’m denying there were any deaths attributable to this. This reeks of bullshit

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