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jjjalljs ,

Maybe we should stop giving these people a platform and instead interview non-cultists.

Dkarma ,

It’s hard to explain unless you’ve been to one.

Cult

FirstCircle ,
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Many of you may find this book interesting: Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of AuthoritarianismAvailable at a library near you, until banned. There are also some interesting audio interviews with the author online.

Samvega ,

Among the key clercs profiled in the book are Rafael Bardají (Spain), Ania Bielecka (Poland), Simon Heffer (United Kingdom), Laura Ingraham (United States), and Mária Schmidt (Hungary).[3] They have, according to Appelbaum, “come to betray the central task of intellectuals, i.e. the search for truth”.[3] Instead, their role is “to defend the leaders, however dishonest their statements, however great their corruption, however disastrous their impact on ordinary people and institutions”.[4]

This might interest more people to read the book, I found it stimulating.

Empricorn ,

Someone who’s still “maga” at this point is not someone I will listen to. They’re now a cult.

whydudothatdrcrane ,

I didn’t expect the Trump card to be a Q

takeda ,

Maybe not a drag queen, but a drama queen for sure.

whydudothatdrcrane ,

What are you talking about, I was dogwhistling about Q the right’s favorite whistleblower lmao

MummifiedClient5000 ,

At what point do you stop and ask yourself “Am I worshipping a weird old man?”?

Samvega ,

I don’t know if humanity, in general, is very good at interrogating their own mistakes.

BetaBlake ,

An Epidemic of Brainworms

AbidanYre ,

Half the people in that article are selling maga merchandise.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s grifters all the way down, Trump included.

thesohoriots ,

They’ve made an interesting overlap with the doomsday preppers, I’ve noticed. If the Trump merch slows down, rebrand some crappy solar chargers off Aliexpress, buy an alt-right podcast ad read, throw on a no-returns policy, and you are in business.

homesweethomeMrL ,

I couldn’t. I got through the first one - barely. Then I started the second and began power-barfing and screaming. Had to close the tab.

Every paragraph is quotable, but here’s the last three of contestant number one:

A lot of politicians – 99% of the politicians – are going to blow smoke up your ass and lie to you to tell you whatever they want to tell you but this guy, he’s going to tell it exactly where it is. That’s why I call him the Blackest president we ever had.

I am seeing more Black people attend the rallies. Especially with them bullying him through the streets these days with giving him all these fake charges. Trump gets to see how Black men live out here and now, right before every American eye, where they used to say that Black people are crying wolf, now they get to see exactly how the justice system does us as Blacks. They’re bullying him literally right before everyone’s eyes and it’s not fair.

That’s why I call him the Blackest president ever alive.

Daze ,

Ty for your service 🫡

These people need to switch to unleaded water

Xanis ,

Given how his particular base tends to lie, I went and double-checked to make sure it wasn’t some fat white guy being quoted. In a rather shocking turn…it was not a fat white guy, and for that I am rather horrified.

homesweethomeMrL ,

I was selling merch for the Obama campaign for a long time. Then I was doing Hillary merch but Hillary – I don’t know, for whatever reason – got hurt and stopped campaigning for a while so I ended up working Trump forever. My first Trump rally was back in 2015. I remember him saying at the end of his speech, to my Black community, “What do you have to lose? Give me a chance.” And dude, here I am. Yes, sir. I gave him a chance, man.

pennomi ,

Imagine thinking Trump is speaking honestly, despite the nigh infinite counterexamples.

homesweethomeMrL ,

In the beginning it was purely business, but now it’s fully fledged. This is what I believe in and stand for. I think he gives a damn. He simply cares. Everyone wants to make him out to be a racist but man, the biggest thing I ask people is: show me one racist thing he’s done to us Blacks besides help us.

EleventhHour ,
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It’s really fascinating to watch any of Jordan Klepper’s videos where he visits MAGA rallies and interviews attendees.

These people are pretty far gone.

braindefragger ,

They are the Maga masses – ordinary people for whom Donald Trump represents hope, not fear, and whose lives have been changed by the Trump era.


ordinary people

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Samvega , (edited )

You say ‘ordinary’, but do these ordinary people make up the majority? The popular vote was uncomfortably close in swing states between Trump and Biden, last time.

Considering we live in a world where ordinary people don’t seem to be demanding a better world for people (we don’t even make sure all children are fed, for example), I don’t have the highest level of trust in ordinary people.

braindefragger ,

You say ‘ordinary’

I didn’t say anything. I quoted the first paragraph from the article you didn’t read.

Samvega ,

Sorry, I read your post as saying that ordinary people doubt the idea that Donald Trump has any positive traits.

If you doubt that Trump voters are ordinary people, then I wonder how he won the presidency the first time, and came close the second time. Ordinary people don’t seem to have made a particularly great world, after all.

braindefragger ,

No worries. Doubt that MAGA folks should be called ‘ordinary people’. As the article does.

snooggums ,
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They make up a minority, which is why higher voter turnout equates to Dems winning snd Republicans keep trying to suppress the vote.

showmeyourkizinti ,

The common clay of old west.

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