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Missouri bans sale of Delta-8 THC and other unregulated CBD intoxicants

Missouri is banning the sale of drinks, candy and other foods made with hemp-derived intoxicating substances, Republican Gov. Mike Parson announced in an an executive order issued Thursday.

The ban kicks in Sept. 1.

Parson cited health concerns and lack of research on Delta-8 THC and similar unregulated CBD substances.

He also made clear that his order does not prohibit consumption of psychoactive hemp products. The rules “are not here to punish consumers,” Parson said.

JCreazy ,

It’s very easy for kids in Missouri to get Delta 8. They get it from the same pace that they get vapes. I tried it once and never again.

FattestMattest ,

I tried a Delta 8 gummy once, very pleasant mild high. I also tried a Delta 9 gummy and that stuff is crazy and not enjoyable.

Evilcoleslaw ,

Isn’t delta-9 the THC that most people think of wrt marijuana? If so, my experience ranged from barely feeling anything, to a mild pleasant high, to so intense it was unpleasant. (In the last instance I was impatient, didn’t feel the effects quick enough and took more.)

I was under the impression that the rise in federal legal sale of delta-9 edibles was because the farm bill allows concentrations of 0.3% by weight – so in edible form you can make the gummy or whatever big enough to still include a decent dose.

FlyingSquid ,
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Same here in Indiana as of July 1st, except unlike Missouri, actual cannabis is also illegal. It’s ridiculous. All it is going to do is drive the people who can’t get over to Illinois or Michigan to use other, more risky substances.

djsoren19 ,

Lmao, people are coming in to dogpile a red state not realizing that recreational marijuana is legal in Missouri. This is strictly over concerns about Delta 8 operating in an unregulated grey area, and it’s a fair concern. If you have access to actual weed, you really shouldn’t smoke Delta 8. I wouldn’t buy anything with Delta 8 even if I was dry and traveling through a non-legal state.

finley ,

Weed has Delta 8 THC in it

swag_money ,

i think it’s delta-9-thc that is the product of decarboxylation

finley ,

Normal weed has both in it. It just has Delta 9 in far greater quantities.

Evilcoleslaw ,

Nah. Decarboxylation is about transforming THCA to THC. THCA isn’t really psychoactive, but THC is. You convert it with heat, which if you’re smoking is fairly easily achieved. For preparation for edibles you may need to decarboxylate as a separate step, except with baked goods IIRC.

NineMileTower ,

I agree with this. Delta 8 is pointless when actual weed is already legal. It’s unregulated. Might as well smoke gas station bath salts. CBD should be regulated too so nobody is getting duped into buy skunk oil.

Nougat ,

Do "supplements" next.

CaptDust ,

Wouldn’t have a ban for lack of research if people were allowed to research it…

Perfide ,

This is Delta-8 which has been federally legal since 2018. People are allowed to research it.

NOT_RICK ,
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Misery stays miserable

MerchantsOfMisery ,

I approve this comment.

snekerpimp ,

I agree with the delta-8 ban. Can’t have the natural thing, but let’s breathe this chemical we made in the lab and spray on ditch weed.

perpetual_beta ,

But you can have the natural thing. Recreational marijuana is legal in MO

snekerpimp ,

Then they really should be banning the lab stuff. No need for it to exist except to line some chemical company’s pockets.

some_guy ,

I’m puffing a vape as I scroll because I believe it to be better than smoking a cigarette. Lab-made does not necessarily equal poison.

snekerpimp ,

popcorn lung Diacetyl can be an ingredient in vapes. Hope you are being mindful of that. Natural doesn’t mean better for you. But few things are good to use daily.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Apples.

FlyingSquid ,
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https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9c429718-5a55-4a5b-bcd9-df04a1c669ab.png

snekerpimp ,

“But there’s cyanide in apples!!!”

Perfide ,

Diacetyl hasn’t been used in any reputable vape juice brand in like a decade(and is banned in EU), and there’s also absolutely no evidence that the juices that did contained enough to cause popcorn lung. There’s a reason it’s called popcorn lung, because the most likely person to get it is one who works in a popcorn factory and is exposed to industrial quantities of Diacetyl, day after day for likely 10-12 hour shifts. The difference in dosage is astronomical. If you’ve ever worked in a kitchen, you’ll know how grease vapors in the air will absolutely coat you in a film of yuck. Imagine that same idea but instead of grease it’s Diacetyl coating everyone and everything in the factory.

snekerpimp ,

I don’t vape, so I have no clue about the safety that is claimed from atomizing substances. Thank you for informing me about how diacetyl has been pulled from most vapes, shows you how old my information is.

piccolo ,

Isn’t Delta-8 the real thing?.. it’s a loophole as delta-8 isn’t regulated as a schedule 1, so growers have breed hemp to produce more delta-8.

snekerpimp ,

Delta-8 wiki it is found in the plant naturally, but in very small doses. They were able to fully synthesize it in the 2010s I think, and they don’t breed hemp plants to produce it, they spray a concoction of lab produced delta-8 and “natural binders” to cbd hemp. At least, that’s what all the delta-8 is around here.

piccolo ,

I know a few people in the industry, and there are certainly growers breeding hemp to produce higher concentrations of Delta8. But i don’t doubt cheap synthesize stuff is being mass produced to rake in easy money…

snekerpimp ,

Everyone I know in the industry are in the medical field, and they all stay as far away from that stuff as they can, leave it to the headshops to panhandle.

piccolo ,

Well of course they would. medical Cannabis is tightly controlled… the d9, even if it’s naturally produced, has zero regulations.

circuscritic , (edited )

It’s not a synthetic cannabinoid…Delta-8 is typically extracted from hemp plants.

There are also legitimate reasons to prefer D8, even in a legal state. For example, some people prefer it’s much more mild effect relative to normal cannabis.

But I do agree with not consuming products that spray it on direct combustibles and the need to have proper government regulations for product safety and testing enforcement.

Texas_Hangover ,

I enjoyed delta8 because I’m a lightweight these days and weed is strong as fuck these days. I’m more into the THCA now though.

TransplantedSconie ,

“Any little enjoyment in your meager existence will be crushed swiftly and without remorse. Now get back to work!” - GOP led states.

catloaf ,

Which is weird, because keeping your workers drugged up is cheaper than actually treating them well. See: opium in China, and meth in North Korea.

deegeese ,

Which is why the US legalized productivity drugs like caffeine and nicotine, but not something that might slow down workers.

JoeBigelow ,
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I e never understood the mentality that stoners are slow workers. You’d rather I be miserable, feel like crap, and try to do my job like that? I get way more done when I’m in a good mood

PenisDuckCuck9001 ,

That’s the point. Miserable people don’t have the energy to better themselves and do things such as take part time college to get a better job.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Ah ah ah - see, you did it again. Ascribing reason or logic to the GQP.

Now go back out and try it again.

don ,

It is perfectly rational to ascribe reason and sanity to the GQP. As long as the amount ascribed to them is never more than zero.

Reverendender ,

I just found a relevant clip from an 80’s documentary about the GOP

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/c9385165-ba5b-4fc0-82e9-bed157ad75be.gif

Reverendender ,

Chalk up one more reason that despite being able to work from anywhere, and it probably having decent housing costs, to stay the hell out of Missouri.

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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I mean the conditions are right there, in the name of the state.

girlfreddy OP ,
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Misery

Madison420 ,

It’s really not that bad, lots of bigots but you don’t change that by running away and leaves idiots to idiot without pushback.

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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That’s true I was of course only making a humorous statement

RaoulDook ,

It’s not a reason at all, considering they have legal recreational weed in Missouri. I drove through there earlier this year and dispensary billboards were all around the state line areas.

MO has a lot of variety to the state, there are flat areas and hilly areas and forests etc. The flat plain areas are very boring to drive through. There is probably an area that would suit almost anyone out there if you look around long enough.

Reverendender ,

Which area has legal access to female reproductive care?

RaoulDook ,

I have no idea, but I would assume a gynecologist’s office would be available in most of the cities.

PenisDuckCuck9001 ,

If I had a chance to live in Missouri I would take it. There are lots of places way worse than Missouri. Missouri is a utopia compared to Texas for example. Missouri even has legal weed making this delta 8 ban really pointless. It’s like banning dog food at an all you can eat buffet.

modifier ,

What a bunch of grandparents.

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