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Chicken wings advertised as 'boneless' can have bones, Ohio Supreme Court decides

Consumers cannot expect boneless chicken wings to actually be free of bones, a divided Ohio Supreme Court ruled Thursday, rejecting claims by a restaurant patron who suffered serious medical complications from getting a bone stuck in his throat.

Michael Berkheimer was dining with his wife and friends at a wing joint in Hamilton, Ohio, and had ordered the usual — boneless wings with parmesan garlic sauce — when he felt a bite-size piece of meat go down the wrong way. Three days later, feverish and unable to keep food down, Berkeimer went to the emergency room, where a doctor discovered a long, thin bone that had torn his esophagus and caused an infection.

In a 4-3 ruling, the Supreme Court said Thursday that “boneless wings” refers to a cooking style, and that Berkheimer should’ve been on guard against bones since it’s common knowledge that chickens have bones. The high court sided with lower courts that had dismissed Berkheimer’s suit.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

“Decaf coffee”

It actually has 300000mg of caffeine

“It’s well known that coffee has caffeine in it. Skill issue.”

BedbugCutlefish ,
@BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world avatar

Decaf does actually still have caffeine, just normally like 97% less.

Which, I guess is like the boneless wings having 97% less bones, now in convinient needle shaped shards

Dasus ,
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On a bit of a tangent, I’m Finnish and recently (as in the past year or two) there’s been Coke and Pepsi which literally say “caffeine-free” on the side. Not “decaffeinated”, but “caffeine-free”.

I think there’s been some sort of innovation in decaffenation or someone’s come up with a flavour/essence which replaces the ingredient with caffeine in it.

Decaf definitely has caffeine, as I’ve completely without caffeine at several points for several months (even avoiding chocolate mostly) and a “decaffeinated” beverage still made me clearly stimulated. A clear caffeine high.

NileRed has a nice video on him trying to decaf redbull and while he does succeed in extracting caffeine from it, he thinks it’s not even half he gets out. Ofc industrial systems are more effective, but it shows how difficult the process is to perfect. youtu.be/oY8tz1paj6o

phx ,

Yeah, I feel like this is why it’s called decaffeinated rather than caffeine-free… Caffeine has been removed but not completely.

But while the word “less” means a smaller amount, the suffix of “less” means without, i.e. childless

www.dictionary.com/browse/-less

Boneless doesn’t mean “less” bones. The dictionary and commonly understood meaning is “without bones”, and certainly without amounts of bone sufficient to cause significant injury when eating . It’s certainly not a “cooking style” as uncooked chicken cuts with bones removed are sold as boneless.

Apparently these judges are “brainless”

PlantJam ,

Calm down there Panera.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

Would this logic extend to products labeled “alcohol-free”?

“Everyone knows beer has alcohol in it.”

EtherWhack ,
@EtherWhack@lemmy.world avatar

Anything less than 0.5%abv, I think. (Unless, non-alcoholic is classed different)

cosmicrookie , (edited )
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

What is the difference between chicken nuggets and boneless wings? The article mentions that boneless wings are ‘of course’ nuggets of breast meat.

I wonder if they’d have agreed that nuggets can have bones too?

sudo ,

One of the justices literally writes about that. In this article.

“The question must be asked: Does anyone really believe that the parents in this country who feed their young children boneless wings or chicken tenders or chicken nuggets or chicken fingers expect bones to be in the chicken? Of course they don’t,” Justice Michael P. Donnelly wrote in dissent.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Ah! I didn’t get that far. I must have gotten lost in the ads or missed the ‘read more’ and thought that the article was finished

bamboo ,

Usually a boneless wing is a chunk of meat, with identifiable meat fibers and such. Just a breaded and fried chunk of breast. Whereas chicken nuggets are usually made from ground chicken, often molded into a few different shapes.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting thanks!

TunaCowboy ,

If you choose boneless wings over the boney delicious alternative you kind of have it coming.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve always assumed boneless chicken wings are some sort of a scam. Then ordered once and discovered they’re not wings at all but pieces of chicken breast. Or a scam, since a breast taste differently than a wing. Do they actually remove the bones from wings somewhere?

Jerkface ,

I don’t know, but if I were to venture a guess I would say they are made from dark meat that’s harder to sell than the wing. Just glue it together and frame it as an upgrade. $12 plate is now $20.

Maggoty ,

You know I’ve never gotten a discount for ordering dark meat? At this point I’m convinced it’s a myth.

bamboo ,

Usually places just do an up charge if you only want white meat, with mixed and all dark usually being the base price.

MagicShel ,

Boneless is a “cooking style?” No. It’s which bag of chicken I pull out of the freezer before I even turn the oven on. I’m not going to sous vide the fucking bones out of my wings.

If the restaurant is deboning wings to order, fine. I’ll accept that. But then that shit had better be on the menu so I know to be careful.

Mouselemming ,

Boneless wings are usually breaded chunks of rib meat, not actually wings at all. Sometimes a cooking style starts with cutting raw meat off of bones and into don’t-call-them-nuggets.

mkwt ,

Did the restaurant just screw up the order, or was this some process deficiency with the deboner?

expatriado ,

yes, customer got boned at a restaurant and in court

catloaf ,

I don’t know what the boneless tender machine looks like, but no process is 100% effective, so it’s entirely possible for a bit of bone to make it through. Usually, that’s acceptable, because you find it while chewing and remove it. In this case, it was a dangerously-shaped piece of bone, and it ended up in his respiratory system and caused significant illness.

Honestly, I’m not sure that he has a case, since it really is acceptable for some bone to be present. That it ended up poorly for him isn’t really the company’s fault.

In an ideal system, his medical costs would be covered by universal healthcare, and he wouldn’t have to worry about paying bills or losing his job while out sick through no fault of his own. He shouldn’t need to sue for those costs. (And if he’s just looking for a payday lawsuit, then fuck that guy and his lawyer.)

Artyom ,

Boneless chicken isn’t just deboned, it’s shredded and mashed. Since it’s basically manufacturing chicken, there is a guaranteed nonzero margin of error. It’s the correct ruling, there’s no way any company could guarantee the complete absence of bones that were mixed in with the ingredients. I’m more surprised this doesn’t happen more often.

EmpathicVagrant ,

A child probably got killed or maimed cleaning the deboning machines in the slaughterhouse, and we can’t have that affecting profits!

Biggles ,

Buffalo wings aren’t made from real Buffalo, either. Hell, most Buffalo can’t even fly.

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

I hope you’re joking. Otherwise, you’re why boneless chicken wings can still have bones. 💀

Like the Hamburger, it has nothing to do with what’s in the food, but rather where they came from originally.

catloaf ,

Oh yes, the Boneless region of France

darkdemize ,

If they don’t come from the Boneless region, they’re just sparkling nuggets.

Cheradenine ,

Don’t get me started on Rocky Mountain Oysters

EmpathicVagrant ,

Where’s the shell? Idiots evolved it away or something?

doctortofu ,
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So just like all those “unlimited” phone plans with limits, “free” trials that require a credit card number and “lifetime” warranties that expire after a few years? Cool. Cool cool cool…

expatriado ,

under new supreme court ruling, if you sell boneless chicken with bones, you aren’t wrong, just an asshole

thefartographer ,

Not even an asshole, just an ineffective cook

RandomStickman ,
@RandomStickman@kbin.run avatar

More lies from the saucy nugs

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