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MAGA world is really mad that Trump is no longer running against Biden

  • Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris.
  • Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
  • Biden’s withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
ASDraptor ,

Now their candidate is the old fuck and is a felon who’s fighting against a black woman (!) that used to send felons to jail.

Of course they are pissed! As they should be!

ShadowRam ,

I absolutely can't WAIT for the next debate.

and Trump can't chicken out without looking like a Chump...

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

He will chicken out. He’ll pull some excuse about unfair rules or a biased moderator that will be completely and utterly transparent to everyone except his base.

givesomefucks ,

Nice, I didn’t pay attention this weekend and this is the first I’m hearing Biden stepped down.

Great way to start a Monday at least

ABCDE ,

Harris is not confirmed, by the way, just a presumptive nominee. The Democratic Party is gathering behind her as it stands.

Plopp ,

In other words: it’s Kamala Harris.

ABCDE ,

The Democratic National Convention’s rules committee are also set to meet on Wednesday to discuss the process for picking a new candidate.

I imagine they won’t just push her forward, but who knows.

raef ,

Maybe they should have spent time and money promoting their candidate instead of attacking the other

Maruki_Hurakami ,

I said the exact same thing this morning to a coworker. They have no policies, just hate.

raef ,

Yeah, it’s not a difficult concept

TrickDacy ,

Project 2025 tends to disagree

ccunning ,

True. Their policies are so bad they have to disavow them…

TrickDacy ,

Except to the right audience they are extremely proud of them. Yes overall their policies are unpopular but they aren’t without support

ccunning ,

Sure - but they don’t need to win those folks votes

TrickDacy ,

What’s the point here? I’m trying to point out the very real danger they represent. Are you really going to downplay that danger? This is how we lost roe v wade

raef ,

It’s that they don’t need to be won over. They are going to vote for Trump regardless.

ccunning ,

Whoa…I agree with you. And I’m not sure why what I said upset you. I am just speaking in the context of the discussion of the post which is campaign strategy.

We need to shout about Project 2025 from the rooftops because it’s so toxic the Trump campaign wants it to stay hidden.

TrickDacy ,

I find it counterproductive to say Republicans have no policy because they do, and it’s ugly

ccunning ,

I thought that was an excellent point and was glad you pointed it out

TrickDacy ,

Alright good. And it’s good to see a misunderstanding not go ugly online, as it too often does.

ccunning ,

I’ve seen and had way more go this way on Lemmy than on Reddit.

Just a better culture around here.

TrickDacy ,

Well thank you for holding up your end. I admittedly lose my cool with people sometimes. It’s hard to read tone, but I will say that you did a good job of avoiding condescension, which is probably the biggest problem in online discourse that I see.

ccunning ,

To be honest I had to edit the tone of my comment a couple times before submitting it 😉

TrickDacy ,

That’s ok – at least you did it. I need to do more of that

Maruki_Hurakami ,

That seems like a hatred manifesto more than policy.

TrickDacy ,

Call it what you want. The document is very clearly full of harmful policy goals.

Hubi ,
@Hubi@feddit.org avatar

This is really what it boils down to. But with Trump there is nothing to promote. The only way they can win is by ruining the reputation of their opponent to try to make them look worse.

SuckMyWang ,

What about hunters laptop? That’s still going to be a huge deal right? Right??

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t you know Kamala let her tamagotchi die 30 years ago? Do you know where that tamagotchi has been buried? You might not know about this, but everyone is talking about this. But they don’t because they are too scared to talk about it. A lot of good people. They talk about it. And the world is laughing at us. The good people talking about this are too scared to talk because the world is laughing.

revelrous ,

The best people tell me Hillary Clinton had a tamagotchi just like it. So sad. So sad.

palordrolap ,

Rumour has it she used it for e-mail.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Have they looked for it on that underground pizza place? All them libruls have secret meetings in there, for realsies!

MNByChoice ,

Kalama has stepchildren. They are about to be dragged through the mud.

BrokenGlepnir ,

But it doesn’t matter if he had nothing to promote. He’s not above lying. This was just a bad decision on their part. Even if biden hadn’t dropped out, there’s no guarantee that a man that age will be here in four months.

Kecessa ,

That and attacking the ideas, not the person.

magic_lobster_party ,

Policies don’t sell in the current political climate. It has been all about Trump vs not Trump since 2016.

raef ,

Oh, I understand, but if was still their strategy choice.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

I was thinking this when everyone was saying it’s too late to change candidates. While that might have been true if a campaign consisted of promoting people’s positives, that’s not what it is. It’s all about finding the dirt on the other and switching candidates late just means there has been less shit talked.

apocalypticat ,
@apocalypticat@lemmy.world avatar

In the blink of an eye, their surplus of hateful anti-Biden merchandise becomes even more useless. This will surely make them realize how idiotic their cult is /s.

RamblingPanda ,

The Democrats should have flip-flopped candidates for months, ruining those people with hateful merchandise.

Kecessa ,

Technically Harris isn’t confirmed yet!

frunch ,

I can’t believe all those stupid anti-biden truck decals etc will be rendered pointless in a matter of months. I better start making anti-Kamala decals if i want to properly capitalize on these next 4 years 🤑

Edit: cry into your fuckin ear-squares ya bunch of sad sacks

apocalypticat ,
@apocalypticat@lemmy.world avatar

Their favorite cheap Chinese manufacturers are already on it, ready to take more of their money.

Corkyskog ,

You can still cash in. There always needs to be the middle man in that scenario, buy em for $3 each. Sell em for $20 at flea markets and fairs.

dan1101 ,

Those people aren’t going to let go of their anti-Biden identity that easily, we will probably still see those decals for years.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/82f45bf5-0f4d-4816-aeb5-d76e995e1ad1.png

Incidentally, there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore. They’ll tell us not to vote for whoever is going to be his replacement though.

billiam0202 ,

Eh, their new dissent orders seem to be “Biden can’t appoint Harris! I didn’t vote for her!” which, of course, displays a total lack of knowledge about what primaries are and what the DNC is.

They didn’t want Biden to run, and now they mysteriously don’t want the person most of the party supports to run either.

DxK , (edited )

Right? It’s almost as if they’ve never been approaching any of this in good faith.

dactylotheca ,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Almost like they want Trump to win, hmmmmmm

GeekFTW ,

displays a total lack of knowledge

Well we are talking about right wingers here, kinda par for the course. :P

protist ,

I’ve seen iterations of “the Democrats stabbed Biden in the back!” too many times on here over the past 24 hours for it to be a coincidence

Zipitydew ,

I’m seeing a lot of “wHat AbOuT A pRimArY” already from the usual bad actors.

Sanguine ,

The uptick in those types of accounts makes this site start to feel like 2016 reddit 😂. Lemmy has become large enough to justify investment of bots to brigade and astroturf; we’ve made it!

TexasDrunk ,

Already happening. They’re testing the waters to see what’s going to stick.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I know.

toomanypancakes ,
@toomanypancakes@lemmy.world avatar

I just ran into them trying to promote Jill stein in another thread lol

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This Jill Stein?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4f431b53-8e2c-4a71-8f19-fdcfd43691ae.png

Hmm…

aniki ,

Further reading: newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-expla…

TexasDrunk ,

RFK has been abandoned.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s pretty hard to argue in favor of the brain worms guy.

elbucho ,
@elbucho@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair, though, even with literal brain damage, he’s still not the worst candidate on the ballot.

TexasDrunk ,

And her past as a prosecutor, and the fact that she lost the primary 4 years ago, and her laugh. In addition to yours, that’s all I’ve seen so far. They ran “Heels up Harris” into the ground several years ago, but I do think it will make a return at some point. It was a shit insult but so are the others they’re trying to use.

Really all they have is a terrible legal gambit to try to keep her off ballots. That one is laughably bad. No deadlines have passed. The idiot at the front of the House said something stupid. I would hammer that until election day. “The Republicans did their best to keep us off the ballot because they hate freedom and democracy. They don’t want you to have a choice. And Trump endorsed Harris. Here’s the check.”

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

She also said something hard to understand about coconuts. Don’t forget that one. That means something or other.

TexasDrunk ,

Now they’re panicking and can’t decide if she’s unlikable or if she’s the “whacky aunt” entertaining everyone at the barbecue.

I went to the other place to check TFGs meltdown tweets or truths or turds or whatever they call them and I was not disappointed. He is asking for his money back because the attack ads they’ve purchased were against Joe.

mozz , (edited )
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

You know what I’m not seeing?

ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

ALL of the tentative happiness about Harris maybe being a stronger candidate than Biden was, is coming from people who were either neutral or defending Biden before. The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down have, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent, and a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, they can’t take two seconds to enjoy the victory they wanted. They have to move on to the next thing to bitch and moan about.

Shiggles ,

They didn’t want Biden to step down. They wanted him running against Trump and losing.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty much. That way when Trump won, they could say “see? We told you so!”

Much more important than them or people they might care about getting marched into camps.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Nope just didn’t want bomb em Biden there

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You already told me in another post that you’re not celebrating this and have moved on to Harris.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Exactly.

It’s quite insidious.

Today I’m suddenly seeing a lot of “vote blue no matter who”, which IMO is intended to stifle enthusiasm for Kamala.

If the left could unite behind a candidate we’d destroy the GOP.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Nope, I just wanted his Israel supporting ass gone, she’ll probably do the same, but I KNOW he will

aniki ,

That’s not true! I danced a jig when we found out. I was voting against Trump but now I am voting for Harris.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Several others are not. Including a person who has been posting anti-Biden articles in this community for months, who has now switched to anti-Harris articles.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Hi there one of those people!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Then I guess you’re only happy if you’re miserable.

aniki ,

I was one of them and now am elated to vote for a non-geriatric piece of shit and a woman.

SoupBrick ,

Same

ramirezmike ,

lol that’s a really broad extrapolation of what, a few people you saw that happened to post something in the last day? Just boldly labeling anyone who had a criticism of Biden as a bitter troll or something?

NegativeInf ,

Wasn’t rabid before, but I was one of those for Biden stepping down in favor of Kamala. I just wanted a strong voice that was capable of at least countering Trump’s endless spew of lies. But I have noticed those that are now bashing Kamala were also telling people not to vote for Biden.

archomrade ,

Idk how this season is going to end but the writers have definitely been building toward something.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Remember the end of season 1 of "Arcane", where everything looks like maybe it's gonna be okay, and then you get to see in slow motion how an unexpected spasm of violence undoes anything good that might have been building, and you know everything's gonna be bad, bad bad, going forward?

I hope I am wrong

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

Really? I’ve seen plenty of posts like that. Stuff like “Donated to the democratic party to show this was necessary”, “Finally, we can safely roast Trump for being old and senile”, “I don’t care who the replacement is, thank god he’s out”.

There are some shit-stirrers, but they seem to be the minority.

Disclaimer: I am not American, cannot vote or donate, am heavily invested in the election due to the ramifications on Ukraine.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Right here!

Steve ,

Me, 22 days ago

We’ve never had a pair of candidates this unpopular. (Maybe Trump vs Clinton)
If the Dems had any kind of brains, they absolutely would pick someone else at the convention.
Just not Harris; She might be the only one, less popular than Biden is.

At this point, I guess she’s a better pick than Biden, just not by much.
I still want an open convention, and someone else.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I think the missing factor to consider is that Biden is unpopular mostly because of the media telling absolute dogshit lies about him like that he was bad for the economy.

Sure, he's old. But if "elderly" was a disqualifying factor, then "insurrectionist" would be, also. I think the issue is that the media is going in the tank against the progressive, as they tend to do, and that that has the potential to swing against any genuinely decent candidate that the Democrats want to put forward. I sorta hesitate to say that a good answer to that is "okay well let's just put forward a more corporate friendly candidate who will be 'popular' with the people whose perception is shaped by the media."

Steve ,

But if “elderly” was a disqualifying factor, then “insurrectionist” would be, also.

Those two things are unrelated.
One is a crime, the other is inevitable.

But my issue is that nearly all the Democratic elite, are more or less anti-progressive. The only real economic populist thing I know Biden did was appoint Lina Kahn as the FTC chair.

I would love to see her as a candidate! But she chose to be born in England, taking herself out of the running.

Ghyste ,

Ozma in pieces right now…

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You’d think so, but they already have moved on to “don’t vote for Harris” posts.

Ghyste ,

Why am I not surprised…

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I actually was curious about it, so I looked over his posts, and it's all over the place. Pro-Marianne Williamson, anti-Nancy Pelosi, pro-open convention and anti-"coronation", criticizing Harris for not being LBGTQ friendly enough...

Actually. You know what, it's not really all that all over the place. 🙂 It's just a little bit subtle with the consistent anti-Harris message, from different angles, enough so that I didn't really pick up on it until I started typing them out.

NoIWontPickAName ,

You ignore the rest of us who have, weird to only pretend one side exists

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I guess I wasn’t talking about you then, was I?

But do please explain why I shouldn’t have ignored the people I wasn’t criticizing when I was criticizing another group. Is this some weird ‘both sides’ thing?

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

While I never told anyone not to vote for Biden, I definitely openly bitched about him not being capable of speaking and the absolute joke it is. I’m not a fan of Harris, but my God, a sentient adult I’d amazing.

bstix ,

This would be a good time for republicans to campaign on all the politics they intend to run. Lol. They’ve been unusually silent lately. because they can’t find common ground on anything but being anti-democrat.

GOP will implode on itself if Democrats just stay silent for a week or two.

Plopp ,

they can’t find common ground on anything but being anti-democrat.

Sadly that’s all that’s needed in a first past the post system that has boiled down to two parties. It’s only tribalism at this point.

billiam0202 ,

Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.

Curiously, they’re not mad about the multiple tens of millions of their dollars being spent on Trump’s lawyers.

Sumocat ,
@Sumocat@lemmy.world avatar

They should be mad. Biden stands down with a perfect 1-0 record of defeating Trump with no chance of rematch.

Fuzzy_Red_Panda ,

Trump added that he thought the GOP should be “reimbursed for fraud.”

Trump raises an excellent point: his campaign was forced to waste money against Biden for as long as it did only for the Democrats to pull the rug out from under him by pulling Joe out of the race. This, if anything, is a form of cheating.

AH HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

GOP: Fuck your feelings might makes right REAL MEN ARE BACK don’t tread on me THESE COLORS DON’T RUN SON

Also: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ceenote ,

Unironically “I object on the grounds that it’s devastating to my case”

saltesc ,

That’s like losing a $1,000 bet on the Lakers and trying to sue them or something.

TheDemonBuer ,
@TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world avatar

The fact that they’re so mad about this makes me think that Biden was a much weaker incumbent than I realized, and that the choice to replace him was the right one.

magic_lobster_party ,

And maybe withdrawing so late might not be as bad after all. Sure, it’s going to be tough for dems to rework their campaign, but it’s going to be tough for reps as well when their campaign revolved around Biden.

MagicShel ,

I went hard for Biden because I was genuinely worried there would be chaos in finding a new candidate that would make it impossible to sort it out and run an effective campaign in the time left. It looks like I was wrong and I’m so fucking happy about that.

Harris is the right candidate - part of the same administration, so she can run on the same record which is pretty damn solid. I’m excited for the future.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

So, what you’re telling me is that by finally conceding to giving up on reelection, Biden achieved one hell of a victory against the whiny orange?

🥂

Here’s to hoping you 'muricans don’t fuck this chance.

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

I guess if only they spent more endorsing their own agenda instead of smearing it wouldnt matter right? 🤷‍♂️

xc2215x ,

Good. Let them stay angry.

kaitco ,

This feels like postering to me. Trump was recorded while playing golf with Barron that “Biden’s out. It’s gonna be Kamala”. He’s already been considering this for at least a week or more.

Trump isn’t upset about going up against Kamala and he’s already been saying that he will stomp her, which I am so fearful he will that it makes me tear up.

memfree ,
@memfree@lemmy.ml avatar

He’s already been considering this for at least a week or more.

He and his team have considered it, but I doubt Trump is capable of preparing for it. His team will try, but – like Biden – he is an old man past his prime. Voters do not want Project 2025, so Trump’s team CAN’T talk about it with anything but denial, and that is the only ‘plan’ they have. The rest is a few insults that Trump repeat over and over, to which Harris can say, “I’ll take the insults if it keeps necessary abortions legal. I’ll take it to keep schools open. To improve them. To make sure [insert message here] is expanded, not abolished.”

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