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BilboBargains ,

Let’s set aside motive and treat this woman’s obvious problem with her mental health. The last thing she needs is criminal proceedings and punishment that achieves nothing apart from getting conservative dicks hard.

njm1314 ,

I’m not sure she’s actually wrong in the part about it Jeopardizing her career, because let’s face it sometimes that’s true. However did that not occur to her before she had the child? Surely she should have known that and not had a kid if that was her main priority.

HawlSera ,

Or, she’s a lawyer for a luxury car company…

So hire a god damn nanny?

HawlSera ,

You’re a fucking lawyer for a prestigious car brand. Surely hiring a god damn nanny was a better solution than child murder?

Buddahriffic ,

Take a week off, go to the hospital to get yourself and baby checked out. While in hospital, order a car seat. They’ll probably give you some diapers and an outfit or blanket.

Then, when you leave the hospital, head to fire dept and place baby in the “need a baby, take a baby, have a baby, leave a baby” box.

HawlSera ,

I know you’re being facetious, but this was in Germany where workers actually have rights to take a week off, and healthcare is freer than breadsticks.

Buddahriffic ,

That’s sad that your first assumption was that I was joking because I said “take a week off” and “go to the hospital”. Not a statement about you but about the state of things in some areas.

Though it’s also sad that I silently assumed those weren’t outlandish suggestions because she was a lawyer (though, as a Canadian, I did forget for a moment that “go to the hospital” might be a showstopper rather than the minimum level of care a parent who doesn’t want their surprise baby should do before abandoning it at the fire dept).

The only part that I had intended as tongue in cheek was the “leave a baby, take a baby” bit. The comment was intended as a “this is a better way to handle this than dropping the baby out of the nearest window that doesn’t involve having to take care of the baby at all, beyond a week of dealing with it with a minimum level of responsibly.”

Alternatively, put the baby in a box with a towel, drop it off in a location where it can survive 5 minutes and call 911 to that location. Or call an adoption agency.

Baggie ,

Jesus. I thought this was an onion article.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

They don’t have birth control in Germany?

sunzu ,

Abortion.

qarbone ,

They don’t have adoption in Germany?

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

That too, but if I were this adamant about having kids, I’d make damn sure I don’t have one in the first place.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

And you know the pregnancy was by choice, ie: she wasn’t raped?

RamblingPanda ,

We have both. And the possibility to leave the new born at a (I think mostly) hospital anonymously

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch

I don’t think this was a rational decision. She should and will face consequences, but I don’t think she did it thinking straight.

PenisWenisGenius ,

People without kids are often discriminated against when it comes to raises and promotions. Maybe I should move to Germany. Or just grow a pair and lie, what’s stable diffusion for anyway.

Addv4 ,

So, I’m guessing abortion is banned or banned early in Germany?

FlowVoid ,

She claims she didn’t know she was pregnant.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Did she not know about adoption either?

AGreenPurple ,

You also have the option to give up newborns at hospital sites anonymously and safely without any fear of persecution. I would have expected that you would know such a thing if you’re smart enough to become a lawyer, this was anything but a rational decision.

vxx , (edited )

It’s complicated. Basically it’s illegal, but there’s exceptions. The one exception that makes this law very weak, is that it isn’t illegal anymore if you got counseling at a place specialised for it.

Rape and medicinic reasons are also exceptions and counseling with the doctor is enough in that case.

It also has to happen in the first 90 days after getting pregnant.

Creat ,

This is a very complicated and backwards way of saying: it’s not illegal, you’re required to talk to a specialized counselor first though. That’s also frankly not an un reasonable requirement.

It’s not that complicated.

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

I’m surprised the FSB hasn’t scouted her already

some_guy ,

Defence attorney Malte Hoech, 53, presented a contrasting view, arguing that the incident was a tragic accident. Hoech claimed Jovanovic was unaware of her pregnancy and overwhelmed by the sudden birth.

So your client is intelligent enough to earn a law degree and achieve a high rank at a prestigious multi-national, but too stupid to figure out she’s preggers? Yeah, that’s believable.

Drewelite ,

I’ve known some workaholics, And they can be pretty oblivious to everything that isn’t in the lane of their work life. Their own health, already born children, basic life stuff, etc… Also stress induced amenorrhea is a thing .

This psycho should absolutely go to prison. But it’s possible she’s at least being honest.

some_guy ,

Interesting take. I’m open to it. Thanks.

DrFuggles ,

it actually is. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonaticide?wprov=sfla1 has a bit to say on it, but doesn’t go too much into the root causes. The majority of cases as far as I understand it stem from the mother not wanting to accept that she is pregnant. This is a delusion, mind you, and if untreated, can have dire consequences as shown here. To mothers who are not adequately prepared for birth (because they, for whatever reason, have repressed their pregnancy), giving birth must be about as traumatizing as if I were to wake up tomorrow with a third leg (that wants to be fed).

The German-language coverage of this is also very hit and miss. most outlets, like here, put an emphasis on here being a Porsche lawyer, which is a) bending the truth somewhat for shock value (she’s a contract counsel for their financing subsidiary iirc) and b) completely irrelevant, as other outlets point out that this pathological behavior does not know class boundaries.

phoenixz ,

Thanks for that very reasoned response

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Well, that is mind-blowingly awful.

overload ,

Insane. I can’t imagine a woman doing that to her own newborn baby. Defenestrating a baby would also ruin her career, so I guess she has a lot of other things going into that decision.

Kalkaline ,
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It’s not a logical decision.

overload ,

My point exactly.

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