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Rooftop where gunman shot at Trump was identified as a security vulnerability before rally: sources

Two sources told NBC News that the Secret Service flagged a building near the rally site as a security concern. Investigators will be scrutinizing how a gunman was allowed to scale it.

The rooftop where a gunman shot at former President Donald Trump during a campaign rally was identified by the Secret Service as a potential vulnerability in the days before the event, two sources familiar with the agency’s operations told NBC News.

The building, owned by a glass research company, is adjacent to the Butler Farm Show, an outdoor venue in Butler, Pennsylvania. The Secret Service was aware of the risks associated with it, the sources said.

“Someone should have been on the roof or securing the building so no one could get on the roof,” said one of the sources, a former senior Secret Service agent who was familiar with the planning.

iAvicenna ,
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There is like literally four fucking rooftops near the vicinity of the stage and you didn’t think to secure one of them? Thanks for making Trump a hero mf.

unexposedhazard ,

The second worst thing that could have happened is trump not being assassinated.

The worst thing that could have happened is trump almost being assassinated.

vxx , (edited )

A successful assassination would’ve been the worst.

Do you really think if Hitler was assassinated anything changed? Maybe a leader with the same goals but without brain rot would’ve taken over, and not made critical blunders.

If people wouldn’t support Putin, he would be long dead by his closest men.

Republicans would have the same agenda but without the guy blurting it out whenever he can.

The machinery is running and you have to stop the machine, not the messenger.

unexposedhazard ,

Well the US is headed for civil war one way or another, unless they get rid of their current supreme court.

Trump is very much an iconic, celebrity like figure. If you cut off his head, im not sure the republican hydra can magically regrow another head that does what he does.

AA5B ,

Imagine one of his sycophants taking control, asserting his authoritarianism in His name. Imaging Cheetoh-head up on the the cross, where now he can be your idol regardless whether even he would be that extreme

formergijoe ,

The RNC starts today. The Republicans would have to scramble to pick a candidate for president the weekend before they show off their candidate for president. It would have caused chaos for them.

aesthelete ,

Maybe a leader with the same goals but without brain rot would’ve taken over, and not made critical blunders.

People always say this, but I think it’s a rather facile analysis.

Fascism when fully instituted basically doesn’t work as a governing ideology. Many countries have tried it and many countries have found that out.

Sure, there’s sometimes encampments; there’s sometimes secret police; there’s sometimes using the military on your own countrymen; there’s sometimes genocides; there’s sometimes surveillance; there’s sometimes lots of things…but you know what it always breeds? A government full of distrusting, incompetent, loyalist boobs that are slaves to one man’s dumb ass ideas.

There is no competent version of fascism because one man alone cannot “fix it”. Even a singular genius cannot rule a modern country based upon just his own ideas, he has to have a group of competent people surrounding him, triaging issues, and analyzing different things…those type of people don’t tend to want to work for the type of backbiting, dark triad narcissists that nearly always sit at the center of fascist government.

Fascism leads to dark, terrible things, but it’s basically always, at its heart, a kakistocracy.

vxx ,

History would disagree with you. How many dictatorships ended with the death of the dictator?

The dictators usually get killed after they have been thrown over.

How many assissinations have there been that support your claim?

aesthelete , (edited )

Not every dictatorship is fascist.

EDIT: Besides you were originally making the argument that there could be a “more competent” Trump which is what my reply was talking about. Fascist governments are, in my opinion, inherently incompetent. Even the whole “Mussolini made the trains run on time” crap was just rhetoric and propaganda.

There are other forms of government by effectively one “chosen” person (i.e. dictatorships), and I don’t think they necessarily have to be fully staffed up with incompetents in the same way fascist regimes naturally have to be.

Facebones ,

gestures broadly at recent SCOTUS decision stripping menial day to day bullshit from experts at their respective agencies to Trump shill judges

afraid_of_zombies ,

The thing that most helped his chances happened. And of course this is a pure coincidence

Fedizen ,

based on this logic: if republicans want to really guarantee his victory they should shoot at him more

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    Fedizen ,

    It does follow. If one crazy republican kid shooting at him increases the odds of him being elected why wouldn’t a second or third?

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    yesman ,

    None of your reasoning follows. You think the shooting is suspicious, but have no evidence to believe it was a “false flag”. Don’t accuse others of not playing make-believe correctly.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Brave words for someone who commented and then blocked

    GiuseppeAndTheYeti ,

    Can you stop with this whole false flag BS? The kid was over 400 feet away. The margin for error with a rifle at that distance, shooting for a target that small is zero. A slightly stiffer left to right wind and the bullet shatters his skull and Trump is picking bits of bone fragments out of his brain. Or if he shifts his head tenths of a second before the shooter pulls the trigger. Or if the sights were zeroed the day before.

    It’s asinine to believe that this was staged. There’s a 20 year old kid shot dead on the roof by secret service and a 50 year old bystander dead in the stands behind Trump. Trump got lucky. Just as he always fucking does. I wish that wasn’t the case, but that’s what happened and now we just need to figure out how we deal with it.

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    Delusional ,

    Lmfao trump ain’t no hero. Getting shot at doesn’t instantly make you a better person. He was a piece of shit before getting shot at and I’m sure he’ll act more of a piece of shit after.

    Tja ,

    “I like candidates who don’t get shot”

    iAvicenna ,
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    he will be treated like one though

    Fades ,

    Yeah, by morons that already treated him like a hero.

    iAvicenna ,
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    and by the people in the fence who have republican tendencies who were not planning to vote before but will now

    CileTheSane ,
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    Has Trump said anything since the shooting? (Other than the announcement he clearly didn’t write?)

    Normally we can never get the guy to shut up, two full days of silence when he can milk the publicity of this is baffling.

    this_1_is_mine ,

    The realization people want you dead can do that though… This isnt The idea that people want to hurt you. But actually knowing they want to kill you. If you could continue thinking this was a outlier them your very naive.

    glitches_brew ,

    I stopped expecting normal human behavior from him a long time ago.

    GreyEyedGhost ,

    It seems like it would be a very tangible indication of disapproval, and narcissists have a hard time with that.

    PenisWenisGenius ,

    There was a rnc thing today so he’s probably had a chance to say whatever he wants since then.

    JustARaccoon ,

    He isn’t a hero in the literal sense, but he is the person who “people are trying to silence”, and who is “fighting the good fight”, so people will see him as the hero they need to save the US and this attack legitimised his victimising persona

    thegr8goldfish ,

    Uh oh. The SS better stage another quick phone upgrade so they can accidentally lose all the evidence again.

    PythagreousTitties ,

    The target is an ongoing security threat, too

    UserNameIsRequired ,

    The secret service are so pissed their guy missed the shot.

    imPastaSyndrome , (edited )

    Because they couldn’t just plug the guy if they really wanted to?

    radivojevic ,

    Odd it was a known issue yet no one was watching it.

    imPastaSyndrome ,

    Staties were supposed to be covering it, and they obviously were since they popped the guy 2 seconds after he took the shot

    suction ,

    The idea is to monitor the environment so to get your guy into safety and / or disable the perp, before shots can be fired.

    imPastaSyndrome ,

    K?

    radivojevic ,

    Yeah, but after. Someone fell to sleep on the job

    Fades ,

    If you think a goddamn secret service sniper could miss a goddamn 400ft shot, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Madison420 ,

    Handrail looks like dude is defending the president with a vacuum.

    suction ,

    Yet nobody was posted there…curious. They really staged it for the photo op.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Interesting. Welp nothing to see here

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