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blackluster117 ,
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How does this not fall under “Fruit of the poisoned tree”? The original conviction was in error, any charges stemming from the consequences of that conviction should also be in error. I hope she’s able to resolve this and get some part of her life back.

UncleGrandPa ,

For republicans… Cruelty IS the point

brbposting ,

Likely killer sounded like a gem

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/f0ffe435-513b-4dd4-bcd9-9d16b32feeb0.jpeg

This wording didn’t age too well…

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/5c6e465c-5296-420b-bedd-f3d3a037a739.jpeg

VelvetStorm ,

While i do agree with you, that is the correct word for it. Much like how if an Archeologists found the remains Caucasian people they would be called Caucasoid and Asian is called mongoloid.

SpaceCadet , (edited )
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Asian is called mongoloid.

One archeologist to another: looks like this person was … happier than you and me.

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VelvetStorm ,

I don’t get it.

SpaceCadet ,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

It’s from a Devo song called Mongoloid.

It goes:

Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid Happier than you and me

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He did bring home the bacon. Bacon is, I am told, the key to many people’s happiness.

Arrkk ,

A quick Google search tells me that the term is outdated and no longer used, having been refuted by modern genetics research.

VelvetStorm ,

I appreciate you letting me know. I will no longer use that word.

13esq , (edited )

It’s a sensitive topic but white and black people are genetically much more seperated than black and white rhinos which we are happy to describe as separate species.

The term isn’t outdated because it’s incorrect, it’s outdated because if you start saying different groups of humans are literally separate species it really feeds in to the racist agenda.

Edit: Given the replies, it appears that I may well be wrong, I remember reading it somewhere but I can’t find the source nkw. I’ll downvote myself but leave the comment up because it enables others to learn from my mistake

loaExMachina , (edited )

Imma need a citation for that since these species of rhinos are said to have diverged between 3.3 and 4.1 million years ago and the first known dispersals of homo sapiens out of Africa were 129 to 75 thousand years ago. And migrations and intermixing kept happening throughout prehistory and history. Maybe it comes down to how exactly you define “more separate” ?

TheRealKuni ,

He’s just straight-up wrong. See my post replying to his.

TheRealKuni ,

It’s a sensitive topic but white and black people are genetically much more seperated than black and white rhinos which we are happy to describe as separate species.

That is simply not true

85% of human genetic diversity exists within local populations. White and black people are genetically less separated than white and white people or black and black people, depending on the specific people. There is much more genetic diversity within populations than between them. A source

There is essentially no genetic support for the idea of races. They are purely a social construct based on some shallow phenotypical differences, culture, and the prejudices of a given time.

TheRealKuni ,

Edit: Given the replies, it appears that I may well be wrong, I remember reading it somewhere but I can’t find the source nkw. I’ll downvote myself but leave the comment up because it enables others to learn from my mistake

The world needs more people who behave this way when shown they are mistaken. Good on you!

loaExMachina ,

I remember reading it somewhere

Yeah, you probably did, it might be one of the pseudoscience things far-right spread on social media presenting them as facts. Sooner or later, they get relayed by factoid pages that don’t know they are far right. One such factoid I’ve seen around is that red hair (and sometimes also blond hair) were going to become extinct due to race mixing. This is also false, but while a rightwing Facebook page is the first place I saw it, I’ve seen it repeated by many people with no ties to the right wing, who didn’t question it.

Another close example I’ve seen is the IQ map. It’s based on a fraudulous study by Richard Lynn, a segregationist behavolioral scientist. His study was actually published in a reputable journal, but later removed when it was found his numbers were bullshit. He then cofounded his own journal with like-minded people. The thing is, while this map is shared by fascists online, it’s rarely contested. I’ve seen many discussions on Twitter where a racist posted the map, and many leftists were talking about how IQ isn’t mostly genetic and that these numbers must be a result of poverty, or some began saying the concept of IQ itself was racist… But no one questioned the numbers, altho they were actually wrong and a quick search coul’ve shown it.

It is frequent that when in an argument, a statement is presented as a fact and another as a conclusion of that fact, many only try to contradict the conclusion and take the original claim for granted. This tendency is often abused for propaganda purpose.

13esq ,

I’m pretty sure it was on Reddit at some point but I’m not saying that makes it any more trustworthy.

loaExMachina ,

It systematically ignored the scores of Africans with high IQ

In previous works, he even used outdated methods like skull measuring.

13esq ,

I don’t think this is what I was referring to, but very interesting.

pyre ,

dude are you like 200 years old

IamSparticles ,

Hemme had a two-year sentence imposed July 16, 1984, and a 10-year sentence imposed October 24, 1996, that were both supposed to run consecutive to the murder sentence, which the court overturned in June. Both sentences were related to violence while in prison.

Are you fucking kidding me? She already served 43 years for a crime she didn’t commit. Now the AG’s office wants to keep her in prison for charges that occurred as a direct result of her incarceration, when she has already served more time than the sentences combined?!?

I can only assume that they’re looking for any possible excuse to keep her in because they’re afraid of the looming civil suit when they finally let her out.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

She doesn’t have to be out to sue. My guess is prison did the opposite of rehabilitate. And now because of it, she isn’t fit to be released. Which is even worse.

BobGnarley ,

This is the real answer but fuck them they played the blame game now they should release her and have to deal with the consequences. This happens all the time btw, especially in Missouri. They don’t want them out because they know what kind of person they will be now that society has failed them. Good. If they are rapists and killers now maybe you shouldn’t have imprisoned innocent god damn people. They should let them out and be forced to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Yeah, but “they” won’t be the ones to feel those consequences

ShepherdPie ,

This isn’t the first time I’ve see a story like this. I don’t remember the specifics but it was a man who was wrongfully convicted and then was attacked in prison. He wound up accidently killing the guy so now he’s stuck in prison even though he never should have been there in the first place. I tried googling the case but couldn’t find it among the sea of other wrongful convictions.

Kecessa , (edited )

How does it make sense? She’s got 12 years to serve for what happened while serving 43 years for a crime she didn’t commit, that means she served 31 extra years already! And that’s not even giving her the benefit of the doubt that she could potentially have spent 0 years in prison had she not been incarcerated in the first place meaning that the 12 years aren’t her fault but the fault of the system that put her in prison even though she was innocent!

meco03211 ,

Seriously. She’s banked a little time. She should be able to commit a few minor crimes and use her credit.

Viking_Hippie ,

She should be allowed to commit 1 nonviolent felony and 4 misdemeanors by my math. More if any of them are victimless.

dhtseany ,

Just a little crime. Ya know, as a treat.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Light felonies

insufferableninja ,

maybe even a little light treason

TheFriar ,

Not to mention, those extra years were undoubtedly due to the cutthroat environment of landing in prison and having to learn to survive. It’s a goddamn trope in movies/tv. In fucking sitcoms. Prison forces people to become criminals or else be brutalized.

So she was drugged, forced into confessing flimsily, sent to prison as a mentally unwell person, and had to survive. Those violence charges against her should’ve been thrown out immediately after they realized she was never supposed to be there in the first place.

This fuckin system in this fucking country…

BobGnarley ,

What was that epic poem released by that group? Oh yeah, Fuck the Police.

GuStJaR ,

Whilst this was happening, someone had the thought that they could do something to stop this woman getting out of prison. That person would either need a specific reason, something to gain, or just be one of the smallest people/biggest cunts to ever grace the planet.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Wait a minute, if she gets released, people will know our prosecutors made at least one bad mistake two decades ago. I know, to prevent people from knowing this public information, I will prevent the release of this innocent person. That will surely safeguard the reputation of this office

kent_eh ,

if she gets released, people will know our prosecutors made at least one bad mistake two decades ago

And that might just start people thinking that the death penalty is barbaric. Can’t allow that to happen…

octopus_ink ,

I agree with all the other reasons this is fucked, but let’s all step back and have a shudder about this:

In 2015, after Holman’s death, authorities searched his house to find gold horseshoe-shaped earrings in a closet, which Jeschke’s father said he had given his daughter.

If dude had just thrown those earrings away she’d have had no hope of ever being released.

NauticalNoodle ,

Well, that story played out like a bad movie. -Dirty cop, frame-job, and all.

RagingRobot ,

That poor girl. Lost her whole life to some nonsense. So sad. I wish I could do more to stop things like this from happening

hypnotoad__ ,
@hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

This is America

c0smokram3r ,
@c0smokram3r@midwest.social avatar

Dang, this is super-fucked up.

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