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Disney heiress, wealthy Democratic donors say they won't finance the party until Joe Biden drops out

Abigail Disney, the granddaughter to Roy O. Disney, who cofounded The Walt Disney Company, told CNBC on Thursday that she plans to withhold donations to the party she has funded for years until Biden drops out. The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite calls for him to do so.

“I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high,” Abigail Disney said in a lengthy statement to CNBC. “If Biden does not step down the Democrats will lose. Of that I am absolutely certain. The consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire.”

lightnsfw ,

That’s one way to get these rich fucks out of politics…

pulaskiwasright ,

These wealthy people don’t want Trump because they aren’t christofascists, but they don’t want Biden because he was starting to get into trust busting.

JohnOliver ,

Is he making the greatest mistake of his career?

rozodru ,

Too late. Guy could literally peel over next week and they’d be screwed. He should have never agreed to or have been allowed to run a second term and IF he does get elected for a second term I guarantee you he doesn’t survive it. not from some nafarious plot or what have you but simply due to…well…look at him.

But I got no dog in this fight. I’m in Canada. and although my elderly parents live in the US and I do worry about them with this election there’s nothing I can do. It’s like watching an oncoming ship wreck and you’re just screaming at the passangers (US citizens) to get off the boat, get on the life boats, save themselves while you stand on land not being able to do anything but watch. I imagine the rest of the world feels the same way.

I mean i’m worried for you guys, like truly worried.

Scotty_Trees ,
@Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world avatar

why the fuck would I listen to a heiress

tinkling4938 ,

And why the fuck are they allowed to be funding our representatives. “Do what we want with the wealth we didn’t earn or the bribes stop.”

skozzii ,

Democratic party keeps screwing itself.

If they didn’t go against the main support of their party and chose a super unpopular Hillary over Bernie Sanders in 2016 then Bernie would have been wrapping up his second term as president and we would have some young blood flowing into the party. They would also have a completely different looking supreme court. They had something special going on in 2016 and they disenfranchised alot of young voting people that election.

Instead its a slow death March, and they don’t even seem to be fighting it…

androogee , (edited )

Ah yes, the unpopular Hilary who won both the primary against Bernie Sanders and the popular vote against Donald Trump, but was hated by conservatives and Reddit.

People really fall for this narrative hook line and fucking sinker every single fucking time, huh?

Just keep repeating it, and it becomes even better than reality

We keep biting the hand that feeds. Biden administration gives us four years of progressive policy and we can’t wait to hate it.

Humanity is so fucking unbearably stupid.

Y’all truly make it very hard to not just despair.

ANYWAY, to anyone that wants the world to be incrementally better instead of plummetingly worse, go fucking vote. Not a protest vote, a real grown-up vote.

Tryptaminev ,

Hillary won the primary by orchestrating the other candidates to drop out and unite behind her, when it showed Bernie was starting to win. Exercising her dynasty power (since we are talking about heirs) to pressure the delegates into a swift pro establishment decision.

Clinton is a far right war hawk by other countries standard and still a war hawk by US standards.

Also it is not something new to the US system, that the popular vote is not the all deciding factor, so blaming it on the voting system, especially after 8 years of Dem presidency and before that 8 years of Hillary god damn husband being president in the 90s is laughable.

Biden administration gives us four years of progressive policy and we can’t wait to hate it.

Record deportations, building Trumps wall, funding genocide in Gaza… Meanwhile not enacting any change to protect the US political system from Trump, after January 6 and just glossing over it as some singular event never to happen again, instead of understanding it as a clear sign of deep systematic issues that need urgent addressing.

You and i have very different understandings of what is progressive.

Vailliant ,

Bernie lost in the same way the Republican party shafted the primary against Teddy Roosevelt. If you have the apparatus you are the kingmaker.

Bernie didnt play their game, Hillary had control of the game. From easy primary questions to ‘voting’ groups falling inline with Clinton by the democratic party.

Undemocratic primaries are a systemic failure of the American voting system.

drunkpostdisaster ,

Must be nice not to have any stakes in all this

Tryptaminev ,

If you live on planet earth unfortunately you do have stakes in it. The US is still powerful enough to influence the life of everyone around the world.

njm1314 ,

All the wealthy Plutocrats have seen this was a great opportunity to steal the nomination from the people.

Well steal it more anyway.

ShepherdPie ,

Nomination from the people? We never had a choice in the first place.

FiniteBanjo ,

Primaries work, but nobody votes in them. We got Clinton because she won the primaries in 2016, we got Biden because he won the primaries in 2020.

explodicle ,

The 2016 primary was super delegate bullshit

FiniteBanjo ,

In the 2016 DNC Primaries:

15,805,136 people voted for Hillary Clinton before considering Delegate allotment, 16,847,084 after.

12,029,699 people voted for Bernie Sanders.

If we didn’t have a nation of 340 Million Fuckwits then maybe we could get more than 5% of the population to select our future leaders.

doctordevice ,

Oh, come on. You can’t justify a corrupt process by pointing to the final results of the corrupt process.

FiniteBanjo ,

No but I can justify a democratic process by pointing to the much much higher number of people voting for the candidate who won.

doctordevice ,

…In an unfair election with the organizing body tipping the scale all throughout the process. So no, you can’t point to the votes to wave away the corruption that influenced those votes.

FiniteBanjo ,

Lmao

doctordevice ,

You need to grapple with this and figure out how to acknowledge the damage the DNC did to the party in 2016. You are only continuing to hurt party unity by pretending it didn’t happen.

I’m not saying Bernie would definitely have won or anything. Chances are Hillary would have won in a fair election anyway. I’m saying the people were robbed of a fair election so we can’t know what would have happened. If you’re truly interested in justifying democracy you should be outraged by that rather than denying it.

But sure, a pithy “lmao” definitely does the trick too.

ShepherdPie ,

*Lmao that resulted in Trump being president

FiniteBanjo ,

*Lmao, that user thinks people selecting a leader through voting is corrupt/undemocratic

ShepherdPie ,

People are selecting from candidates chosen by two private parties. “You’ll vote for who we tell you to vote for” isn’t very democratic.

FiniteBanjo ,

People are selecting candidates chosen by primary elections. It’s a democratic process.

ShepherdPie ,

Oh yeah? Who were our options this go around?

FiniteBanjo , (edited )

Just some nobody independent who caucuses with dems named Bernie Sanders, you’ve probably never heard of him?

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/511d1fd4-a040-416c-a2bd-e6b5f0b39bb7.png

EDIT: To clarify, these were the 2020 primary results. There are ongoing 2024 primaries as well, but an incumbent president has never been defeated in a primary in all of US History.

ShepherdPie ,

That’s like claiming McDonalds makes the best burger because they sell the most.

FiniteBanjo ,

You’re literally making an argument against bare definition democracy, right now.

ShepherdPie ,

Sure thing, buddy.

friend_of_satan ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9054b570-2e28-40ab-a592-67354b8b2c95.png

I sense a replay of 2016.

IsThisAnAI ,

You just have got to love progressives ability to be their own quest enemy.

Foni ,

And this is the reason why the democratic party does not respond to the interests of the working class. The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys. This time those voices are aligned, but if next time they are not, the voice of the super rich will be the one they hear instead of yours.

finley ,

the working class cannot afford democracy

disguy_ovahea ,

With all these calls for him to drop out, there would need to be a viable replacement that could ensure a win with a four month campaign. I’m concerned that it’s just as risky to change the horse this close to the race.

Pretzilla ,

Al Franken

thedailybeast.com/no-joke-why-al-franken-should-r…

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

It’s not a bad idea. His “scandal” won’t mean shit next to Trump’s. I’d still like to see some polls of his potential before we start calling for Biden to step down.

catloaf ,

You ignore that scandals only matter to Democrats. Like Trump said, he could murder someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters. Meanwhile, Al Franken does something in poor taste and gets cancelled.

vxx ,

Democrat’s scandals matter very much to republicans. They drag everyone through the mud that doesn’t have the cleanest west, and it works.

2484345508 ,

At least it would be funny, in a good way.

Juturna ,

I don’t think there is.

I think a person who should be in the running for president needs to have some name-recognition but also be non-polarizing which unfortunately is hard to find in combination. There are some names floating around like moving the candidacy to Kamala Harris, but… I feel like a lot of people don’t like her. Which shouldn’t matter but I think a lot of people base their voting on “would I enjoy sitting down at a dinner table with this person and could I speak candidly” and don’t look into the actual political standpoints of that person, so likeability more than anything.

I’m not American, but I still feel a slightly vested interest in the outcomes of the elections because the outcome of the US election will shape global politics and even more than that in the next coming years, especially if Trump and his fascist cronies take control. But my point being is that I don’t know every single name in American politics, but I would say your average American voter probably knows as much as me, and the names that people know about are usually the polarizing ones that wouldn’t have a chance of winning. The Democrats are sorely lacking a strong candidate with a name that can rival Joe Biden in name-recognition without being polarizing.

Joe Biden is too old, but he has good people around him so I could see him doing 4 more years while doing MORE to find a good replacement for him would be the best thing for the US.

orcrist ,

Polarizing is not a problem. Trump is polarizing.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

There have been several polls of Kamala vs. Trump. She barely surpasses Biden in some when the poll brings “fitness” into question, and polls worse than Biden in experience. That’s the real problem.

You right. I think it’s reactionary nonsense to be calling for him to pull out of the race without a stronger candidate on the bench.

asyncrosaurus ,

There is no dropping out, and there’s no replacement. All political donations have been to the Biden campaign, it is illegal to transfer those funds to a new candidate. The only person who could run for president in his place is Kamala, since she is the other person on the ticket.

It’s extremely clear no one talking has any clue how any of this shit works.

kandoh ,

The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys.

Has there ever been a time, place, or political system where this was not always the case?

2484345508 ,

Waiting for the communists to jump in confidently incorrect.

SOMETHINGSWRONG ,

Yet another liberal straw man.

Let me guess, what comes after a liberal gets scratched again?

2484345508 ,

There you are.

Foni ,

Political parties that pay more attention to their voters than to the rich? Yes, many. Parties that fulfill that and are electorally successful? None or almost

some_guy ,

They don’t hear you now. Just because you’re asking for the same thing doesn’t mean your opinion matters.

FiniteBanjo ,

Lmao, you say that as if the DNC have listened to their demands.

etchxi ,

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    FiniteBanjo ,

    …?

    The hell are you on? I’m just saying that rich people making absurd demands is a really shit citation for politicians listening to rich people’s demands. You haven’t caught Biden or the DNC red handed, you’ve got a picture of the cookie jar devoid of hands and still full of cookies.

    kitnaht , (edited )

    Biden dropping out right now would all but guarantee that Trump won the Presidency. Anyone calling for him to drop out knows this, and is doing it likely as someone who is horribly misguided, or intentionally to try and sway our elections by a foreign entity.

    We’re past the point of registrations across multiple states, the supreme court is controlled by the right, and there is absolutely no way to swap those names out and get the new names on the ballot without pushing it all up the ladder to – you guessed it – An illegitimate supreme court who has shown us they’ll make shit up on the spot to get the result that their owners want.

    So people calling for Biden to ‘step down’ - are either doing it because they’re too stupid to realize the reality of things, or they are a foreign agent attempting to sow division and limit voters on the left. Follow those social chains up to who they originate from – I guarantee they originate from people who are intentionally there to sow division in an attempt to sway our elections.

    Here’s a list of the dated deadlines to be placed on the ballot in various states: ballotpedia.org/Deadline_to_run_for_president,_20…

    So understand first and foremost, anyone saying Biden needs to have someone replace him right now – They know this.

    IHeartBadCode ,

    and is doing it likely as someone who is horribly misguided

    This is Abigail Disney. She's rich but she's not the brightest crayon in the box politically. Her PhD is in philosophy and her dissertation was about the role of romanticized violence and war in American life. Her lists of philanthropy is what one would expect from a run of the mill rich person level activism. Tossing money at the high level stuff, never diving deeper to the root of the problem.

    I'm not dissing the lady, but she absolutely falls into the misguided on this aspect.

    Gigasser ,

    I mean I wouldn’t call all people who want Biden to drop out as intentionally being for Trump. Alot of it is fear, panic, and maybe a bit of ignorance of historical trends. By alot of historical metrics, it does increase the chance for Trump winning, I’ll admit that. But I wouldn’t say that it’s guaranteed.

    Zaktor , (edited )

    We’re past the point of registrations across multiple states

    LOL, no we’re not. Biden hasn’t even been nominated yet. The earliest deadline is Ohio, which is requiring the Democratic party to do a special virtual vote to get on, but that’s still in the future.

    Your link is a list of filing deadlines for the primary.

    So maybe after being wrong and accusing everyone else of being foreign agents, check your own information sources that are trying to convince you of this.

    HaleHirsute ,

    All of this is wrong, according to the DNC’s own rules and history of being able to handle such situations, and common sense.

    Ensign_Crab ,

    according to the DNC’s own rules

    Oh those matter now? They didn’t matter when they were arguing in court that they could choose their nominee in a smoke filled back room.

    Peppycito ,

    It’s sow, as in sowing seeds, not sew, as in joining together with thread.

    kitnaht ,

    Thx for the correction.

    Kroxx ,

    Sincere question did you watch the debate in its entirety?

    kent_eh , (edited )

    I saw Trump lying his ass off and Biden flabbergasted at the sheer audacity of some of those lies.

    2484345508 ,

    You didn’t watch it.

    kent_eh ,

    Are you denying that Trump lied every time he opened his mouth?

    2484345508 ,

    No, but a person doesn’t need to watch it to know that.

    smeenz ,

    What would happen if Biden died next week? Would all those processes you mention prevent his name from being changed ?

    kitnaht ,

    Yeah. They actually would.

    SuddenDownpour , (edited )

    and is doing it likely as someone who is horribly misguided, or intentionally to try and sway our elections by a foreign entity

    And once again we come back to the liberal conspiracy theory of “We’re the only adults in the room, and anyone who disagrees with us is co-opted by foreign powers”. The worst part of it all is the shamelessness of pulling this bullshit when so much people knows you’re talking out of your ass. Fuck off.

    kitnaht ,

    So you’re a horribly misguided rube of someone else. Got it.

    PugJesus ,

    “Oligarchy bad, until they agree with me”

    upto60percentoff ,

    Not sure what article you're reading, but this one didn't seem to imply the reason for ceasing donations was being against oligarchy. So I'm not sure what point you're making?

    PugJesus ,

    So I’m not sure what point you’re making?

    That the influence of the ultra-wealthy on elections is derided by some until an ultra-wealthy donor is found who agrees with them.

    upto60percentoff ,

    Isn't the push behind Biden "making the best of a bad system"? Which seems to be exactly the same sentiment behind "I don't like the oligarchs but it's useful that they agree with me."

    PugJesus ,

    Isn’t the push behind Biden “making the best of a bad system”?

    Unless the ‘bad system’ is the opinions of the US electorate, no.

    upto60percentoff ,

    You think Biden is a legitimately good candidate and not just worth rallying behind to stop Trump?

    PugJesus ,

    No, I think Biden is the candidate who has the widest support in the electorate, which is why he’s worth rallying behind to stop Trump.

    upto60percentoff ,

    That's literally "making the best of a bad system"

    You don't like the choice you're making, but you're picking what you perceive as the "least bad".

    PugJesus ,

    That’s literally “making the best of a bad system”

    I didn’t realize I thought democracy was a bad system.

    upto60percentoff ,

    You think the US's implementation of democracy that forces you to pick the least bad between two candidates you don't like is

    • A good system
    • The only implementation of a democracy

    ?

    And that's without getting started on the electoral college.

    PugJesus ,

    You think the US’s implementation of democracy that forces you to pick the least bad between two candidates you don’t like is

    Democracy, yes. It will always be the ‘least bad’ choice in a democracy, unless you have some miracle roll of the dice where a candidate 100% agrees with you, or a cultlike devotion to them.

    A good system

    What parts of the system that make it bad are anti-democratic elements - which are not particularly relevant in whether my choice should be Biden or Trump.

    The only implementation of a democracy

    This may come as a shock, but if the majority of people in any democratic system prefer candidates that I think are shit, those are what my effective choices are going to be narrowed down to. That’s kind of the point of a democracy.

    upto60percentoff ,

    What parts of the system that make it bad are anti-democratic elements - which are not particularly relevant in whether my choice should be Biden or Trump.

    Or in other words, the system you're in is flawed but you're working within the constraints of those flaws to get the best outcome you can find.

    Making the best of a bad system

    The US is only in this predicament because the system it has currently allowed a candidate who lost the popular vote in 2016 to get into an office that had enough power to meaningfully damage the country.

    However it's clear from your repeated and deliberate attempts to reframe criticism of that system as an attack on the very concept of democracy itself that you aren't arguing in good faith here.

    PugJesus , (edited )

    Or in other words, the system you’re in is flawed but you’re working within the constraints of those flaws to get the best outcome you can find.

    Making the best of a bad system

    Except that the issue you’re discussing, the choice being narrowed between Biden and Trump in this election, is not related to the anti-democratic flaws of that system.

    However it’s clear from your repeated and deliberate attempts to reframe criticism of that system as an attack on the very concept of democracy itself that you aren’t arguing in good faith here.

    Sorry that you find democracy such an offensive concept.

    upto60percentoff ,

    If you ignore the fact that trump wouldn't be running if he hadn't lost the popular vote in 2016 and still won, sure.

    This started as you deriding the US's system as an oligarchy, but now when pressed it's your ideal democracy? What are you doing, friend? Are you okay?

    PugJesus ,

    If you ignore the fact that trump wouldn’t be running if he hadn’t lost the popular vote in 2016 and still won, sure.

    How is that relevant to my choices being narrowed down to Trump and Biden by the opinions of the electorate?

    This started as you deriding the US’s system as an oligarchy, but now when pressed it’s your ideal democracy? What are you doing, friend? Are you okay?

    Sorry that the idea that the candidates with near-majority support being the only choices is a symptom of democracy is so foreign to you, and the idea that an ultrawealthy megadonor attempting to change one of the candidates without democratic support being a symptom of oligarchy is, likewise, apparently incomprehensible to your worldview.

    upto60percentoff ,

    being the only choices is a symptom of democracy is so foreign to you

    Given that the overarching question here is "is biden really the best candidate?", and that ranked choice voting would immediately fix that issue while retaining democracy, yes i feel fairly confident that the current situation is one brought on by an imperfect implementation of democracy.

    But again, this is just more bad faith whining so goodbye.

    PugJesus ,

    Given that the overarching question here is “is biden really the best candidate?”,

    Yes, he is the best candidate currently running.

    and that ranked choice voting would immediately fix that issue

    No, ranked choice would give us an option to express a stronger preference for other candidates. It would not fix the fact that Biden and Trump hold near-majority support in this election cycle and one of them will be the winner of the election, making every voter with any sense pick one of them to support over the other.

    while retaining democracy, yes i feel fairly confident that the current situation is one brought on by an imperfect implementation of democracy.

    Okay, cool, if ranked choice voting was implemented, who would have the support of the electorate who isn’t Biden or Trump?

    archomrade ,

    On what basis are you making the claim that Biden has near-majority support here? Because if it’s simply the fact he’s the candidate that was produced by our shit system, it seems like you’re just begging the question.

    PugJesus ,

    Is this the part where I post polls and you say “Well, we can’t TELL because if things were different the POLLS would be different too”?

    howrar ,

    Did you read the article? It says everyone polls approximately the same as Biden.

    PugJesus ,

    Polls taken before Thursday all largely deliver the same answer: any Biden alternative — Vice President Kamala Harris, Govs. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Gavin Newsom of California, Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg — performed about the same, or worse, than Biden against Trump when voters were asked how they’d vote in head-to-head matchups.

    In averages of national polls fielded between February 2023 and January of this year, for example, Harris underperformed Biden by about 2.3 percentage points, per tracking by the former Democratic pollster Adam Carlson.

    Buttigieg, Newsom, and Sanders did worse than Biden against Trump (Newsom, for example, trailed Biden’s margin against Trump in every poll in which he was included, by about 3 percentage points on average). Whitmer did roughly the same as Biden, but that’s also based on only two polls.

    howrar ,

    Yes, that one. The difference between all the candidates falls in a range of about 3 percentage points, meaning that everyone has near majority support.

    archomrade ,

    Lmao, those polls are asking how people would vote in hypothetical head-to-heads - as in:

    the current situation is one brought on by an imperfect implementation of democracy.

    But I guess since this says each hypothetical polled resulted in near the same chances, that means all of the alternatives have ‘near-majority support’, right?

    PugJesus ,

    No, ranked choice would give us an option to express a stronger preference for other candidates. It would not fix the fact that Biden and Trump hold near-majority support in this election cycle and one of them will be the winner of the election, making every voter with any sense pick one of them to support over the other.

    Good to see you still can’t read worth a damn.

    archomrade ,

    idk what to tell you, the article you linked shows alt candidates having similar support as biden in head-to-heads. I’m not sure in what world that means Biden has majority support. They can’t all have near-majority support

    if 75% of the democratic electorate would prefer a different candidate, then in a ranked-choice election 75% of democratic voters would likely be putting him as second or third choice, not their first.

    archomrade ,

    This is the third or fourth time I’ve seen you hide behind “the opinions of the electorate” as a defense of status-quo positions, except this time it’s pretty clearly not the opinion of the electorate that Biden is the preferred candidate to go up against trump.

    Zaktor ,

    You know there are other forms of democracy right? This isn’t the only way to select an executive, and many of those systems aren’t about choosing the least bad option.

    PugJesus ,

    What system would present more than two choices when two candidates hold near-majority support?

    Zaktor ,

    Parliamentary systems. Ranked choice or approval voting. These two candidates don’t actually hold majority support, they’re just the end result of filtering and internal politics in a FPTP system that needs to have two parties.

    PugJesus ,

    Parliamentary systems.

    So then I don’t get a choice as to who becomes the executive at all. Wonderful.

    Ranked choice or approval voting.

    Ranked choice still results in one of two candidates if those two candidates have near-majority support. They simply allow voters to pick one of those two candidates whilst expressing support for less-popular candidates. It creates MORE scenarios in which there are more than two candidates with a chance to win, but it neither eliminates the existing problem nor prevents it in all cases.

    Ranked choice is better than FPTP. But it’s not a silver bullet to the issue being discussed.

    Zaktor ,

    Ranked choice’s end results are not the issue. It solves the problem because it allows multiple similar candidates to compete, which means the left wouldn’t have needed to winnow down to a single candidate. If Biden becomes incapable that’s fine, people have another candidate already available who wasn’t spoiling him by existing. And if we don’t all agree that Biden is incapable? Biden-stans can vote him first and the other candidate second, and vice versa, and one of them will garner the full vote of the left.

    PugJesus ,

    Again, I appreciate the advantages of ranked choice and support the implementation of ranked choice as a massive improvement over FPTP - but it’s not an answer to the question of “What system offers more than two choices, practically speaking, when two candidates have near-majority support”, which is the question under discussion.

    Zaktor ,

    What kind of nonsense question is that? These candidates both don’t have near majority support (polls of head to heads are not measuring that) and there’s no reason to have a different system if two hypothetical candidates actually did. Most people did not want this rematch in the first place.

    If you have a situation where say there appeared to be two likely dominant candidates, but one crashes and burns spectacularly, other voting systems wouldn’t cause a default decision for their single opponent. And the people who thought Joe Biden was too old from the very beginning could already be supporting their replacement. Hell, we could just have all these potential replacements already competing and work it out in voting.

    archomrade ,

    Despite insisting otherwise, PugJesus is a through-and-through centrist who prefers the convenience FPTP offers to those who don’t want things to fundamentally change.

    It is the only reason he would be insisting on the head-to-head interpretation of “near-majority support” and only agrees to popular progressive positions when there is a systemic hurdle that prevents that position from coming to fruition.

    archomrade ,

    75% of democratic voters would prefer a different candidate to Biden, I wouldn’t consider that a near-majority support.

    kaffiene ,

    He’s making a strawman

    Ensign_Crab ,

    And just like that, you found an oligarch you don’t like.

    return2ozma OP ,
    @return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

    If you haven’t seen Abigail Disney’s documentary about Disney, you really need to…

    The American Dream and Other Fairy Tales - Official Trailer - youtu.be/9XnX5LNjeAg

    Abigail Disney looks at America’s dysfunctional and unequal economy and asks why the American Dream has worked for the wealthy, yet is a nightmare for people born with less. Using her family’s story, Disney explores how this systemic injustice took hold and imagines a way toward a more equitable future.

    RunningInRVA ,

    Maybe lower the prices at her theme parks, then?

    WorkIsSlow ,

    I don’t think she’s the Disney in charge.

    Zaktor ,

    She doesn’t have any role in running the parks. I don’t think anyone in the Disney family does anymore. They’re just a megacorp. Abigail Disney criticizes the Disney Corp all the time. Mostly about worker conditions, pay, and obscene CEO pay rather than ticket prices.

    Ultraviolet ,

    The last Disney to actually be in charge of the company was her father.

    jaybone ,

    Don’t they pay their park employees shit? Maybe she should “explore” that as part of this great philanthropic work.

    awesome_lowlander ,

    The Disney family no longer owns or controls Disney Megacorp, AFAIK. It’s an independent company run in the usual way now.

    Zaktor ,

    Criticizing Disney’s pay and worker rights is literally Abigail Disney’s claim to fame.

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