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Paragone ,

At least he’s open about extortion, & using his leverage in any company he owns only as a means of gouging all for his personal-wealth…

A kind of honesty, eh?

some_guy ,

Please let him go.

Toneswirly ,

Lol Im sure some of the Shareholders would be glad to see him move on, given his recent self-destructive behavior. He fired his most successful department at Tesla for…no reason?

ohlaph ,

He should leave.

Glytch ,

Musk leaving would probably help Tesla’s share price

Zron ,

Probably help them make cars too.

Imagine how many model 3’s they could have made if they didn’t set up a whole new production facility for a 3 year olds drawing of a truck.

arc ,

The Cybertruck is a fail on so many levels that I wonder why anyone wants one. It’s not a good EV, it’s not a good truck, falls short on price & range, is prone to corrosion, looks stupid, is totally impractical, and lethal to pedestrians & cyclists. The thing violates so many EU regulations that it will NEVER be on sale there and anywhere else that doesn’t like murder machines.

Zron ,

It’s the emperors new clothes.

Remember, it was supposed to have 500 miles of range, accelerate as faster or faster than a Porsche 911, and have “Thermonuclear explosion proof glass” for some reason.

1/3 of those things sound useful as a truck. Having a long range while unloaded means it could have been decent for most weekend warrior/vacation hauling and towing jobs. But its actual range is closer to 300 miles, because the thing is absurdly heavy.

All the Elon fans insist that it’s the best vehicle they’ve ever driven, despite it having no clear design goal, and having a huge number of personal safety issues for the driver, up to and including the throttle getting jammed down due to cheap glue.

I haven’t seen one yet, but man do I wish I could, because I want to understand why some people are so in love with it. Unfortunately, I live in the rust belt, so I doubt I’ll see one of these rolling piles of rust for a very long time, as our climate will simply dissolve $100k dollar vehicle from under the owner.

Soggy ,

It looks like a large appliance in real life, like an industrial regrigerator or rooftop air conditioner left on the side of the road.

Jarix ,

I know this. And it’s why i wanted one. Thankfully the problems have allowed me to not want one. But if someone can fix these problems i will then want one.

I can’t explain it i just like how horrible they are

Soggy ,

“I want vehicle geometry that decreases efficiency while guaranteeing any pedestrian I hit dies”

It’s a terrible shape for a consumer vehicle.

Jarix ,

Not a single person in the entire history of vehicles has ever bought a truck and said man this vehicles geometry is so efficient what a good purchase ive made.

And where are you getting this about instant death shapes?

Look ive probably driven more kms than you in the last decade. Maybe not but i certainly am in the bracket or 2 below long haul drivers. In my professional career as well as my personal vehicle history ive never hit a pedestrian, but even if i did there are vehicles significantly worse than this one that have been sold for decades.

Its an interesting vehicle. Its just unlike anything else that is a consumer vehicle today.

I agree its ugly. It is a great excecution of an idea. Ive been a fan of sci fi and cyberpunk for 30+ years and this vehicle is exactly that. Its a vehicle i never thought anyone would ever make and its also and electric vehicle. That last bit alone is significantly important.

Many vehicles have problems. This vehicle deserves the failure it has earned.

Its a vehicle that should have beem almost impossible for its build and production to be worse than its curb appeal. yet musk in his musky ways musked it up damned good.

Talk to a Countach owner. They are awful vehicles by lambo standards or even any half way decent performance vehicle. Yet they are also beloved. The DeLorean is hilariously similar to the cybertruck yet a single movie turned that heap into an absolute icon.

Are you incapable of believing that what you see is not the whole picture? That people can be attracted to something not because of what if fails at but how they feel about it?

Are you a robot that cant understand the world you see and know is but a mere insignificant mote in the depth that is the world of reality and human experience?

VeganCheesecake ,
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They’re still worth a lot more than almost any other car manufacturer. Without Musk and his pie in the sky promises, what else is left to justify that?

Jarix , (edited )

Well theres 56 Billion dollars to invest into the company and make a better product. Fix the many issues with the company and get back building something people cant wait to get.

I dont think most people who wanted teslas really cared about self driving, that was just inventive and marketing. Its neat…if it worked without the problems, but i think ive said in an old post that tesla will be a much better company long after musk is out of the picture. I didnt expect it to happen now but ide be delighted if this company that like it or not is the one that kicked off the EV race would actually become a company forcing other manufacturers into a better world.sooner than they otherwise would do on their own.

EVs were inevitable is exactly what musk predicted was going to happen. He saw it as unavoidable and so he bought his way into tesla and spent a lot of time money(much more of other people than his own) and effort into building the Tesla brand

Maybe musk is just good at picking a horse, but i think its better for him to get out of the way of the real work of building the product and not just a brand.

I want Tesla to be so much more successful, and more importantly more respected, without musk than with him. That would be the best version of this brand

VeganCheesecake , (edited )
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I do believe it’d result in a better company. I’m not convinced it’d result in a higher stock price.

Jarix ,

Oh that’s fair i don’t really care about stock price. I can’t invest in anything so it’s just rich people fantasy football to me

Jumpingspiderman ,

Man, Tesla and the shareholders should take this opportunity to tell Phony Starck to not the the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. Tesla would be so much better off without this spoiled nepobaby.

kometes ,
@kometes@lemmy.world avatar

Please don’t throw me in the briar patch!

Zink ,

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

(Not a Tesla shareholder tho)

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Warned? Weird way to spell “exclaimed”.

Tilgare ,

Maybe for the rest of us, but his sycophant making this plea to the board thinks he’s invaluable and they must keep him around. That’s an awful lot of money to make working a part time job.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Would be excellent for Tesla if Musk leaves. They might finally make cars that have standards and quality to existing luxury brands like Mercedes, BMW etc

lauha ,

Luxury??

Wogi ,

Yeah the poorly built oil canning bricks are billed as luxury cars.

TacticsConsort ,
@TacticsConsort@yiffit.net avatar

Quality is a spectrum. Sure, Mercedes isn’t Rolls-Royce. Mercedes makes cars as their main business and turns a profit from that, Rolls-Royce is a company that makes aircraft engines and produces cars sometimes as publicity stunts (because a car built to the tolerances of an aircraft engine is, shockingly, going to be very precise and well-made).

But Mercedes is definitely a higher quality of build than like. Fiat or Ford. To an average person, you buy something like Toyota if you want reliability and a long-lived vehicle, or Mercedes for a smoother drive full of tiny little expensive gadgets that will probably develop a fault after 3 years.

(No idea why they’ve listed BMW here though lol, those things just love perpetually breaking down, because the systems they use to get that unique tactile feedback while driving that some people crave are absolute dogshit when it comes to life expectancy. They use a fucking chain for a timing belt instead of rubber. Don’t ever buy one unless your idea of luxury is constantly having to shell out on repairs and tow trucks. If you have to experience one, just like. Get one as a hire car so you don’t have to own the fucking thing.)

lauha ,

Mercedes sports cars(along with Toyotas) actually do really well on annual German fault statistics.

MyOpinion , (edited )

The best thing for Tesla would be to dump Elon and move its headquarters back to CA. It needs to rekindle the love with its customers. Also Apple could buy Tesla and the world would go nuts.

skuzz ,

Also Apple could buy Tesla and the world would go nuts.

People thought Teslas were overpriced before, imagine the valueless Apple upcharge!

SkyezOpen ,

Yeah but apple has iBags that deploy in an accident to protect the passengers, and the patented iWheel allows the front tires to turn 35 degrees in either direction.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

It deploys to protect any passenger with a paired iphone app. Other passengers will get a coupon to upgrade.

skuzz ,

Either?! Throws life savings at product

Specal ,

Imagine the size of the lightning port

Crampon ,

Latest update. You won’t be able to adjust seats, mirrors or steering wheel. Apple knows best how they should be set. Customers are too stupid to do it apparently.

InternetUser2012 ,

Would you like to adjust your seat? How about your mirrors? For only $35.00 per month for seat adjustment and only an additional $10.00 per month to adjust mirrors and you can adjust them yourself 10 times per day!!! A deal too good to be true, hurry and talk to AI agent today!

skuzz ,

Steve Jobs AI CEO Hologram: “you’re driving it wrong!”

expr ,

Honestly it would probably require a full rebrand at this point. Tesla as a brand is too tainted now.

Masamune ,

Elon, sometime soon: “I’ve got a great idea! We’re renaming Tesla to ‘E’! Let’s go, bros!”

model_tar_gz ,

X

Jarix ,

Ford Pinto

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

Apple buying Tesla would be kinda crazy, might turn out good since Teslas are basically computers with wheels. But the two companies design way differently than each other, I doubt Tesla is as good of craftsmanship as what Apple typically does, and may sully their brand unless they can find a cost effective way to turn out a better product for similar pricing

I could see Microsoft making more sense between it or Apple. Tesla could give them that “sexy” edge they’ve literally never had before and that Apple’s always had going for them. But there are tons of legal issues and regulations with the automotive industry, idk if they will want to.

Other interesting options would be NVIDIA or Alphabet, they have the spare capital for it but again, weird industry for them to get into. Likely Toyota or Ford etc would buy before a tech company imo.

sudo42 ,

I doubt Tesla is as good of craftsmanship as what Apple typically does

If you want to maintain that feeling, don’t ever buy Beats headphones. I’ve had a few and their build quality is worse than Teslas.

So Apple has bought at least one crummy brand and not corrected build issues.

kayos ,

I think alphabet have a good partnership with jaguar. They would have to redesign to bring in line with Waymo. The bones are there though.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

I mean, for the last 10 years Apple have been running their own autonomous vehicle project, only to be cancelled this year.

So, they’re in a good place to buy Tesla now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_car_project

Sam_Bass ,

Gtfo, so long, dipshit

skuzz ,

The only comment we need here.

bwf93 ,

Oh no!

urquell ,

Anyway

Ghyste ,

I’ll give Tesla a bargain basement deal and take the job for 1% of that, and can guarantee I will be less of an obstacle to improvement.

ApostleO ,

Shit, I’d do that job for minimum wage, if only to see Musk fired.

hperrin ,

Great.

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